If you want to date 9's and 10's, daygame is the way.

[Bigpapa]

Ye my question was more for the guy that wrote this thread. If he hasn't fvcked a single 9s and 10s from daygame then what business does he have making a thread about it?

I know , but maybe other people will read this at some point and maybe some things posted here will be helpful for them

the op is just a young guy at the beginning of his life that just read some pua stuff

 

[member159871]

Ye my question was more for the guy that wrote this thread. If he hasn't fvcked a single 9s and 10s from daygame then what business does he have making a thread about it?

One so far, which was the model mentioned in the post. But have met quite a few 9's and 10's from daygame.

 

[member159871]

I know , but maybe other people will read this at some point and maybe some things posted here will be helpful for them

the op is just a young guy at the beginning of his life that just read some pua stuff

Actually before the IG game hellhole I used to cold approach a lot. And be very pro cold approach. Which I'm trying to get back into. I wrote this post back when I was still pro cold approach and thought it would motivate others here.

 

[The Duke]

Ye my question was more for the guy that wrote this thread. If he hasn't fvcked a single 9s and 10s from daygame then what business does he have making a thread about it?

Making posts like he does strokes his ego.

 

[Parallelophone]

program = scam

I am wary. That's why I wanna hear success stories from actual people. But seems everyone's either never done it, or claims to have done it but won't tell me how. Then again, if you really are... *checks website* "partying with Drake and Justin Bieber," you probably aren't anywhere near this forum.

Let me clarify, @thegodofEDM2001 never withheld information. I'm talking about people who tell me they have done this, but then withhodl the information.

 

[Foe]

What are these? I wanna date these. To even know these would be a privilege.

https://www.instagram.com/witnessing/

My last girlfriend was like this, spent 2.5 years having the best sex of my life (TBC). Ultimately though it cost me more then it gave me. My ego and self esteem is low as its ever been at the moment due to that relationship. The constant sh!ttests, walk outs, comparisons to other guys, other guys in frame were demoralizing. There were times when we went out and she was "in my frame" and it was definitely a massive ego boost but it never lasted and due to that was a net 0 on my self esteem. If this girl was a 9 then the girl I dated before her was a close 8. Same thing.

At this stage I dont know if it was because of there looks or there personality (or my choice in woman) but they had allot in common. A certain self entitlement that went beyond normal relationship boundaries into whatever they felt they deserved.

In the end I call it a net win, only because with both of these girls the sex high level, on tap and someone wiser then me on this forum said to look at it that way. Which I do but I'm not sure I would do again. I think Id rather go for a 7 with a good moral compass then another 8+ a$$hole. Like most things in life though worth trying once.

 

[Parallelophone]

My last girlfriend was like this, spent 2.5 years having the best sex of my life (TBC). Ultimately though it cost me more then it gave me. My ego and self esteem is low as its ever been at the moment due to that relationship. The constant sh!ttests, walk outs, comparisons to other guys, other guys in frame were demoralizing. There were times when we went out and she was "in my frame" and it was definitely a massive ego boost but it never lasted and due to that was a net 0 on my self esteem. If this girl was a 9 then the girl I dated before her was a close 8. Same thing.

At this stage I dont know if it was because of there looks or there personality (or my choice in woman) but they had allot in common. A certain self entitlement that went beyond normal relationship boundaries into whatever they felt they deserved.

In the end I call it a net win, only because with both of these girls the sex high level, on tap and someone wiser then me on this forum said to look at it that way. Which I do but I'm not sure I would do again. I think Id rather go for a 7 with a good moral compass then another 8+ a$$hole. Like most things in life though worth trying once.

She was on Instagram? If she can pull Instagram numbers like this she can shoot my dog. I don't care where her moral compass points.

Michael Sartain. He apparently has a podcast or something? And on it he interviewed Tai Lopez?

That he would give an audience, however meager, to this proven grifter? This is looking worse and worse. Just one actual success story, I'd like to hear just one. That doesn't involve tricking people.

EDIT: I should clarify, by "date" I don't mean "be in a committed relationship with." I mean be one of the men in her social circle that gets to have sex with her. She can have sex with whoever she wants, just let me be one of them.

 

[Foe]

She was on Instagram? If she can pull Instagram numbers like this she can shoot my dog. I don't care where her moral compass points.

Oh wait, what? You don't care about her looks you just rate her on her Instagram following? Mine was a 9+ in looks, she didn't have a Instagram at all which to me is a massive +. If your chasing online clout ignore my post.

 

[Parallelophone]

Oh wait, what? You don't care about her looks you just rate her on her Instagram following? Mine was a 9+ in looks, she didn't have a Instagram at all which to me is a massive +. If your chasing online clout ignore my post.

Well she's not earning an Instagram following if she's ugly, right? It takes a certain kind of body to command a massive Instagram following. That's why I think it's a good metric.

 

[Foe]

Well she's not earning an Instagram following if she's ugly, right? It takes a certain kind of body to command a massive Instagram following. That's why I think it's a good metric.

Wrong, theres a bunch of thirsty guys in the sub 5 SMV who will boost the profile of pretty much anything......You could put a X-Mas ham in a dress and it would get a following of guys telling it how hot it is.

 

[Parallelophone]

Wrong, theres a bunch of thirsty guys in the sub 5 SMV who will boost the profile of pretty much anything......You could put a X-Mas ham in a dress and it would get a following of guys telling it how hot it is.

Not from what I've seen. You can't just post pictures of yourself and watch the followers roll in. These Instagram modeling firms don't take just any girls.

Remember, I said "massive Instagram following." Something in the hundreds of thousands of followers. Breaking a million if that ass is just beyond belief.

 

[Gamisch]

Not from what I've seen. You can't just post pictures of yourself and watch the followers roll in. These Instagram modeling firms don't take just any girls.

Remember, I said "massive Instagram following." Something in the hundreds of thousands of followers. Breaking a million if that ass is just beyond belief.

Are you for real? Although some of the women on that Instagram page got me rock hard,they are nothing special.why? Because any woman that shows of her body like that I have to deduct at least 2 smv points. So 8=6. 9 = 6.

A "great ass" is the product of hitting the gym regularly. Has absolutely nothing to do with character. I have many exes with great booties, and they are just as shallow and insecure as the next woman.

These women are extremely superficial, and at the end of the day they realize Drake and Leo wont even notice them, and end up with criminals, deadbeats or maybe guys with your mind state (guys who will worship them only to be played over and over again ).

My last girlfriend was like this, spent 2.5 years having the best sex of my life (TBC). Ultimately though it cost me more then it gave me. My ego and self esteem is low as its ever been at the moment due to that relationship. The constant sh!ttests, walk outs, comparisons to other guys, other guys in frame were demoralizing. There were times when we went out and she was "in my frame" and it was definitely a massive ego boost but it never lasted and due to that was a net 0 on my self esteem. If this girl was a 9 then the girl I dated before her was a close 8. Same thing.

At this stage I dont know if it was because of there looks or there personality (or my choice in woman) but they had allot in common. A certain self entitlement that went beyond normal relationship boundaries into whatever they felt they deserved.

In the end I call it a net win, only because with both of these girls the sex high level, on tap and someone wiser then me on this forum said to look at it that way. Which I do but I'm not sure I would do again. I think Id rather go for a 7 with a good moral compass then another 8+ a$$hole. Like most things in life though worth trying once.

That's what happens when you let a woman determine your value as a man. Then you "need" a HB9 just because she is...hot and other men will respect you. Has nothing to do with actual self respect. Let me clearify; I used to think like this too. In this post alone I've read 5 moments where you could/ should walk away and regain your self respect.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Psychologically, cold approach is extremely difficult for most men. You will get rejected on a regular basis. Those rejection can easily fuel negative thought patterns (“I’m just not attractive enough”/”These women are bitches”/ etc.)

The harsh truth is that most men who try cold approach ultimately fail. Success stories aren’t the norm, frustration and disappointment are.

Likewise, knowing how to attract a woman isn’t enough, you must be patient and disciplined(very few guys get instant successes from game). You also must learn from your mistakes and set goals that will point you in the right direction.

Social circle game, however, is king. It takes the longest to cultivate, but when you’re well-established in a few relevant circles, you’re ****ing set. Too bad most of us here will struggle greatly with entering and building social circles, because of how hard it is to make friends as an adult These days.

 

[Sleeperhead]

If I was a hot girl I would just make an instagram page and message the guys with the most interesting profiles. Mostly looking for the guys with wealth and status...

It just comes down to acquiring more resources at the end of the day. I'd rather do that than go out of my way to beg girls on the street.

 

[SW15]

Psychologically, cold approach is extremely difficult for most men. You will get rejected on a regular basis.

The harsh truth is that most men who try cold approach ultimately fail. Success stories aren’t the norm, frustration and disappointment are.

Approaching strangers is a difficult path. You do feel like shiit when these approaches don't amount to meaningful outcomes.

In some cases, it might be the best option of a bad lot of options.

According to Wheat Waffles, my best option right now is focusing on daygame. I don't have a social circle or the time/capability to put together a social circle now as a 39 year old man. In 20+ years in the mating environment, I've never had a social circle. I've had friends, just not an adequate social circle.

Those rejection can easily fuel negative thought patterns (“I’m just not attractive enough”/”These women are bitches”/ etc.)

You are correct that cold approach rejections fuel negative thought patterns. I'd disagree with about the source of negative thought patterns today.

Most men today are taking the most abuse on tech-based dating forums. If you're to examine men 25-40 today, they have taken most of their rejections from some combination of dating websites, social media platforms, and swipe apps.

If you're using a swipe app or the Insta DM's to set up dates and getting a lot of "one date, no sex, no 2nd date" type interactions, you're going to endure traumatic emotional experiences. Additionally, you'll also be dealing with a lot of pre-date flaking too, which is also emotionally damaging. You need extremely thick skin to date via tech-based methods.

Social circle game, however, is king. It takes the longest to cultivate, but when you’re well-established in a few relevant circles, you’re ****ing set. Too bad most of us here will struggle greatly with entering and building social circles, because of how hard it is to make friends as an adult These days.

Social circle is great for getting a girlfriend. Pay close attention to the words "a girlfriend". That means one girlfriend. If you're looking for an extended relationship (2-5 years or more), your best bet for getting that with the least amount of grief and frustration is social circle. Many men who get social circle girlfriends tend to retain those girlfriends for a long time and often beyond the useful life of the relationship. A lot of the social circle girlfriend guys are beta males and beta males operate from a scarcity mindset. It's common to see a 10+ year relationship relationship from social circle which does lead to a marriage proposal. A good portion of social circle arranged marriages end in divorce, but it is likely fewer that initial stranger approaches ending in divorce or swiping/texting arrangements ending in divorce.

A social circle introduction is a higher percentage play than a swipe app interaction or approaching a stranger (either in a bar or non-bar setting). I've never had a social circle capable of providing me introductions so over the past 20+ years, I've either had to use technology or approach strangers to find dates. It's a more difficult path and it's not a path I recommend highly. Social circle is better in the shorter to medium term. You can get a solid, medium term (1-4 years) girlfriend via social circles more easily than through approaches or swiping more easily.

The problem with social circles becomes sustainability. For instance, I've lived in my current city over 10 years. Social circles have a way of getting pissed off at men who continually exchange girlfriends without marriage or babies, even if the relationships are semi-long (1-4 years). After 2 or so instances of medium term relationships, the social circle will run dry. Social circle is not likely ideal for serial monogamist who does have extended relationships but doesn't commit or the player type who tends to have relationships of less than 1 year.

In theory, you can fix this problem with relocating and re-creating social circles every so often. In practice, that would never happen. Relocations have a way of ruining social circles. Also, after age 30 at the latest, you're not getting into a good social circle in a new city if you relocate. You can get friends if you relocate after 30 but you're not likely to get a social circle that will provide you introductions to quality girlfriends, unless you can manage to be a mid to late 30s year old guy who mainly socializes with mid-20s people. That last sentence probably isn't going to happen.

 

[Parallelophone]

Are you for real? Although some of the women on that Instagram page got me rock hard,they are nothing special.why? Because any woman that shows of her body like that I have to deduct at least 2 smv points. So 8=6. 9 = 6.

A "great ass" is the product of hitting the gym regularly. Has absolutely nothing to do with character. I have many exes with great booties, and they are just as shallow and insecure as the next woman.

These women are extremely superficial, and at the end of the day they realize Drake and Leo wont even notice them, and end up with criminals, deadbeats or maybe guys with your mind state (guys who will worship them only to be played over and over again ).

I have no such qualms. I'm not deducting anything and I don't need "character."

And genetics are a factor. Not every woman can get on this page by hitting the gym regularly any more than I could be a fitness model by hitting the gym regularly.

 

[mikedee]

One so far, which was the model mentioned in the post. But have met quite a few 9's and 10's from daygame.

You say all the time that you don't like the girls in Chicago, no models, etc. Now you say that you meet 9s and 10s on a regular basis, and you dated one. If you would meet 9s and 10s you wouldn't randomly message models that live abroad.
I don't believe your bs, no offense but you are a bit weird. Anyway I wish you good luck

 

[Bigpapa]

You say all the time that you don't like the girls in Chicago, no models, etc. Now you say that you meet 9s and 10s on a regular basis, and you dated one. If you would meet 9s and 10s you wouldn't randomly message models that live abroad.
I don't believe your bs, no offense but you are a bit weird. Anyway I wish you good luck

depends Also how you rate them

guys here rate that guy waffle or whatever his name is as an 8 and think he is a chad/lite

that guy from my end is a solid 5 , maybe a 6 in A good day . If that guy is an 8 … then it means that I am solid 12

The rating system of men apparently is off for both sexes

 

[member159871]

If I was a hot girl I would just make an instagram page and message the guys with the most interesting profiles. Mostly looking for the guys with wealth and status...

It just comes down to acquiring more resources at the end of the day. I'd rather do that than go out of my way to beg girls on the street.

Surprisingly hot girls do message me on Instagram even though I don’t have that much wealth and status. Maybe they find me interesting in a different way though or I’m just their type

 

[SW15]

Surprisingly hot girls do message me on Instagram even though I don’t have that much wealth and status. Maybe they find me interesting in a different way though or I’m just their type

You have status as an EDM DJ.