Long post: vacation with 25 yr old foreign chick

[Pandora]

ARGUMENT 1:

Please dont swim in that choppy ocean water off the Mediteranian. It might have a rip current and there are no life guards. Your family is trusting me to bring you back home safely. Its just not worth it.

Her: tries to swim anyway...sees the water is too cold and violent...and hears me loudly demanding she come back. She apolgizes.


ARGUMENT 2:
I dont think you should wear that fancy black skirt in north Africa. We will be walking alot. It is hot. Maybe something else?

Her: no, it will be ok. Im not changing. Also her 3 hrs later....its too hot can we please buy some shorts for me.


ARGUMENT 3:
After 5 mins of her indecision: Please lets just pick something.This is a developing nation and the selection will not get any better my dear. How about these work out shorts. I am paying for it.

Her: no, i dont want that blah blah. I dont think they are comfortable. They itch blah blah

A fight in the store ensues. We eventually get the shorts. She ends up liking them and not being hot.


ARGUMENT 4:
We are super hungry. Cant speak Arabic or French and I am trying to order. The intimidating shop owner is yelling at me to pick the items. She is complaining about some " i dont want it to have meat!" but yet she could not decide what she wanted after 5 mins.
I finally make a decision and she is throwing a fit about " did you pick something with meat blah blah". I cant even read the menu i had to pick something.

Her: The food comes out. The pizza I choose did not have meat. She is embarrased. Does not aplogize.


ARGUMENT 5:
The trip is over 1 hr long back to the capital city. We will be using a small van bus. I say hey maybe you should use the bathroom because they are not going to stop. After searching diligently I found a dirty bathroom for use. It was better than nothing. We travelled before and she had to do an emergency bathroom break so i didnt want this to happen again.

Her: No, i dont need to use it. I will be ok. A BIG argument ensues. Finally she reluctantly decides to use it.


They say go foreign and it will be better. It is better in some respects but woman are still women. This is a 25 yr old. I am so frustrated. Its like every relationship that I have with young women ends up toxic. I dont know what to do.

Either I give up on having kids, relationships or date ugly chicks. Anything else ends up being a power struggle.

 

[Murk]

At 25 she should be a woman, you're dating a child. You need to vet better, no way you will find me in Morocco or Algeria with a girl and I'm only now finding out shes an insufferable clown. Save the vacations to North Africa for your girlfriend not some hoe. You're moving like a simp bro.

 

[Pandora]

At 25 she should be a woman, you're dating a child. You need to vet better, no way you will find me in Morocco or Algeria with a girl and I'm only now finding out shes an insufferable clown. Save the vacations to North Africa for your girlfriend not some hoe. You're moving like a simp bro.

I am moving like a simp. I agree. When you go foriegn you automatically move like a simp. This is because initially they cant come to you. So you have to meet up in a different country.

Bro its frustrating man because i worked on myself so hard in these last few years. Dug myself out a hole. Picked up new hobbies, better job etc....and relationships still dont work out.

Part of me thinks that this is just the way it is. Modern relationships will always be a power struggle. You may have to put up with unhappiness for the sake of the kids.

Where is this mythical well adjustment hot female? They dont even exist in Muslim nations.

If i didnt want kids this would be an easy thing. I would have nexted long ago.

 

[Murk]

I am moving like a simp. I agree. When you go foriegn you automatically move like a simp. This is because initially they cant come to you. So you have to meet up in a different country.

Bro its frustrating man because i worked on myself so hard in these last few years. Dug myself out a hole. Picked up new hobbies, better job etc....and relationships still dont work out.

Part of me thinks that this is just the way it is. Modern relationships will always be a power struggle. You may have to put up with unhappiness for the sake of the kids.

Where is this mythical well adjustment hot female? They dont even exist in Muslim nations.

If i didnt want kids this would be an easy thing. I would have nexted long ago.

Break this situation down for me.

Where is the girl from, how did you meet, which country you are in now. You're sounding like a troll right now so give me some background on this before I lose interest.

 

[Pandora]

Break this situation down for me.

Where is the girl from, how did you meet, which country you are in now. You're sounding like a troll right now so give me some background on this before I lose interest.

Bro no offense man im not begging for your interest. You can give advice to your fellow SS brotha if you want . We are a community. I have been here since 2008 and never once have i trolled. Lets be respectful.

 

[Murk]

You have trolled, I know you. I dip in and out of this forum but you're the bald black guy that has mild autism (you just don't know it yet).

I'm being respectful by asking for more context on this situation, I didn't even realise you met this broad in an Arab country as a closer meeting point.

 

[2Rocky]

Bro its frustrating man because i worked on myself so hard in these last few years. Dug myself out a hole. Picked up new hobbies, better job etc....and relationships still dont work out.

Hey, Newsflash.....The MAJORITY of relationships (marriages/dating/monogamy/polygyny don't work out in the end...that is how it is....
But if you go in to it with the mind set of this is the "one to beat" . When when either the relationship becomes more trouble than reward or something better comes along, then you upgrade or take a break.

So many of you think you can just meet some stranger and they are going to magically check all your boxes. Hell even 30-50 year married couples don't check all the boxes.

I think you just found out this girl is not one you want to travel with. Fine....either replace her, or find a way to manage that...In these cases, her decisions and actions are her problem. Not yours. Instead of arguing, let her deal with her own consequences. Quit worrying about "Being Right" and choose peace over justice...

 

[Pandora]

You have trolled, I know you. I dip in and out of this forum but you're the bald black guy that has mild autism (you just don't know it yet).

I'm being respectful by asking for more context on this situation, I didn't even realise you met this broad in an Arab country as a closer meeting point.

Lol mild austim. If you can tell me once post i made trolling then i will concede. I have never made a troll post. I take this place seriously. This is the only place in my life where I can get a truly masculine perspective to relationship issues. This place has been a savior to me over the years. Hey your input is valued but Im not begging for it brother.

 

[Murk]

Lol mild austim. If you can tell me once post i made trolling then i will concede. I have never made a troll post. I take this place seriously. This is the only place in my life where I can get a truly masculine perspective to relationship issues. This place has been a savior to me over the years. Hey your input is valued but Im not begging for it brother.

Sorry, I'm being a prick.

Please squire, recount the tale of how you met this fair maiden of Mogadishu and how you came to be on a camel in Morocco with her?

 

[Pandora]

Hey, Newsflash.....The MAJORITY of relationships (marriages/dating/monogamy/polygyny don't work out in the end...that is how it is....
But if you go in to it with the mind set of this is the "one to beat" . When when either the relationship becomes more trouble than reward or something better comes along, then you upgrade or take a break.

So many of you think you can just meet some stranger and they are going to magically check all your boxes. Hell even 30-50 year married couples don't check all the boxes.

I think you just found out this girl is not one you want to travel with. Fine....either replace her, or find a way to manage that...

You are right. Most dont work out in the end. So what is the point of doing them?

Also, how do we know how much we should compromise? These are the tough questions. When is it worth fighting for? Is it worth fighting for when you guys are happy 80% ?

I see most guys in a relationship putting up with abuse for the sake of " working through it".

The funny thing is I had really pleasant relationships. The catch is that only ugly girls or fat girls are cool to date. Attractive women are largely a pain to date.

Most on SS have not found that person that checks off most the boxes.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Seems like you enjoy having drama and petty arguments over nothing. Enjoy. Never happening with anyone I date

 

[Pandora]

Sorry, I'm being a prick.

Please squire, recount the tale of how you met this fair maiden of Mogadishu and how you came to be on a camel in Morocco with her?

Wanted to learn a new language. They have penpal sites to talk to people trying to learn languages. Met a girl. Had extra money. Flew out to a European muslim country.

I also heard that foreign is the way to go. I had great experiences with foriegn girls in the states when I was in my early 20s. I figured hey it cant be worse than the USA.

Fast forward about 1.5 yrs. We travelled together twice. We kinda got along in short time frames. Shorty is attractive but had many red flags. A lot of daddy issues.

We are in North Africa this trip. I paid for everything. We are spending a week together. Most of the time she is a sweet heart. I can see she really tries to keep her emotions in check. We have fun. But that 20% of the time its insufferable.

Its almost like BPD but not quite that bad..I have had a BPD gf in the past and it isnt that but its close.

Also her Muslim parents are calling her saying they gonna kill her if she goes back home. She basically ran away with me lol. Never been out the country except our two secret vacations.

So i cant break up with her becuause she is literally probably risking her life to run away with me.

Her dad dont play and he is about the honor killing life. Or atleast an honor beating life. When she gets home she will definantely get whooped. So I cant break up with her.

 

[Pandora]

Seems like you enjoy having drama and petty arguments over nothing. Enjoy. Never happening with anyone I date

You never argue with anyone you date? How old are the women you date?

Also if you never argued with them...then why are you not still dating them? Why did you break up?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You never argue with anyone you date? How old are the women you date?

Also if you never argued with them...then why are you not still dating them? Why did you break up?

If I get into an argument it would be over something major, not silly things like that.

 

[bmp2cpm]

ARGUMENT 1:

Please dont swim in that choppy ocean water off the Mediteranian. It might have a rip current and there are no life guards. Your family is trusting me to bring you back home safely. Its just not worth it.

Her: tries to swim anyway...sees the water is too cold and violent...and hears me loudly demanding she come back. She apolgizes.


ARGUMENT 2:
I dont think you should wear that fancy black skirt in north Africa. We will be walking alot. It is hot. Maybe something else?

Her: no, it will be ok. Im not changing. Also her 3 hrs later....its too hot can we please buy some shorts for me.


ARGUMENT 3:
After 5 mins of her indecision: Please lets just pick something.This is a developing nation and the selection will not get any better my dear. How about these work out shorts. I am paying for it.

Her: no, i dont want that blah blah. I dont think they are comfortable. They itch blah blah

A fight in the store ensues. We eventually get the shorts. She ends up liking them and not being hot.


ARGUMENT 4:
We are super hungry. Cant speak Arabic or French and I am trying to order. The intimidating shop owner is yelling at me to pick the items. She is complaining about some " i dont want it to have meat!" but yet she could not decide what she wanted after 5 mins.
I finally make a decision and she is throwing a fit about " did you pick something with meat blah blah". I cant even read the menu i had to pick something.

Her: The food comes out. The pizza I choose did not have meat. She is embarrased. Does not aplogize.


ARGUMENT 5:
The trip is over 1 hr long back to the capital city. We will be using a small van bus. I say hey maybe you should use the bathroom because they are not going to stop. After searching diligently I found a dirty bathroom for use. It was better than nothing. We travelled before and she had to do an emergency bathroom break so i didnt want this to happen again.

Her: No, i dont need to use it. I will be ok. A BIG argument ensues. Finally she reluctantly decides to use it.


They say go foreign and it will be better. It is better in some respects but woman are still women. This is a 25 yr old. I am so frustrated. Its like every relationship that I have with young women ends up toxic. I dont know what to do.

Either I give up on having kids, relationships or date ugly chicks. Anything else ends up being a power struggle.

Have you called out on her actions and told her that her actions disrespect you and that you deserve respect?

Without her respect for you there is no relationship.

 

[Murk]

What can you expect from a guy who comes here to brag about his business is making 700k - 800k, he needs to feel good in some way.

It was an anecdote in a particular thread, no need to come for me here because I called you out for having oneitis for a single mother, PM me if needed you half-man.

 

[Pandora]

You have to be totally dominant all the time or else they will push the issue. They will also sabotage your ability to be dominant at the same time as requiring it.

Hey man thanks for always coming through with the good advice and kind words. Yes exactly. They NEED you to be dominant but at the same time will sabatoge your ability. Its like they resent it but need it.

This is the fundamental struggle in male female dynamics. This is the root of most issues.

 

[2Rocky]

Also her Muslim parents are calling her saying they gonna kill her if she goes back home. She basically ran away with me lol. Never been out the country except our two secret vacations.

So i cant break up with her becuause she is literally probably risking her life to run away with me.

Her dad dont play and he is about the honor killing life. Or atleast an honor beating life. When she gets home she will definantely get whooped. So I cant break up with her.

Well whose problem is that? Her's or your's? You gonna make it your problem then you better address it head on. Let us know if you go "Walking Tall" on Daddy. Better yet film it for the 'gram....i'm out..

 

[Murk]

Wanted to learn a new language. They have penpal sites to talk to people trying to learn languages. Met a girl. Had extra money. Flew out to a European muslim country.

I also heard that foreign is the way to go. I had great experiences with foriegn girls in the states when I was in my early 20s. I figured hey it cant be worse than the USA.

Fast forward about 1.5 yrs. We travelled together twice. We kinda got along in short time frames. Shorty is attractive but had many red flags. A lot of daddy issues.

We are in North Africa this trip. I paid for everything. We are spending a week together. Most of the time she is a sweet heart. I can see she really tries to keep her emotions in check. We have fun. But that 20% of the time its insufferable.

Its almost like BPD but not quite that bad..I have had a BPD gf in the past and it isnt that but its close.

Also her Muslim parents are calling her saying they gonna kill her if she goes back home. She basically ran away with me lol. Never been out the country except our two secret vacations.

So i cant break up with her becuause she is literally probably risking her life to run away with me.

Her dad dont play and he is about the honor killing life. Or atleast an honor beating life. When she gets home she will definantely get whooped. So I cant break up with her.

Bro you're taking some third-world chick to Morocco, all expenses paid, because you "had some extra money". You can either live that lifestyle or you can't. You don't spend extra cash on things like this. She's a strict Muslim who will now be honour beaten (or killed) because she ran away with a black guy. You don't even know this woman. She is a destitute pen pal that took up your offer of a free holiday. I'm not sure if this is reality, there's too much to unpack, to say you're of sound mind would be a stretch my guy.

 

[Pandora]

Have you called out on her actions and told her that her actions disrespect you and that you deserve respect?

Without her respect for you there is no relationship.

Brotha I have. Actually I will get silent and she will usually apologise. She will cry and say how sorry she is. She will then have very candid moments about how good I am to her.

Its weird because I have done things worthy of respect. I keep alpha frame, I planned two vacations and navigated foreign countries keeping her safe. Her mother respects me. No matter how competent you are, you cant keep their respect. If they see even 1 moment of weakness they will test you.