how to message women (to get a date)

SmoothSmooth

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my personal approach is to just have a normal conversation like i would with a guy - asking them about their goals, work, interests. it creates a frame of them qualifying to me, to show im not just sold on their looks. my responses are concise and emotionally dry/low effort....i dont flirt and there isnt much of a 'polarity' or attempt to attract; just attemting to get to know them and guage their interest. the only 'attraction' i create is by replying late and mentioning high value things about my life IF they ask...i always match their effort, response time and generally write less than they do. my aim is simply to convey that i am on the same level as them socially by matching their investment, effort and response times...and by disregarding their beauty

after a few days/weeks of low effort back and forth messaging...if they convey enough interest with their replies then i will ask them out for a drink.
im interested in everyone elses approach to messaging women, so leave your feedback/tips below
 
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I def don't spend that much time/energy getting a date.

I create a "foundational" rapport and initial commonality with the girl. I always sexualize the convo early on to make sure she sees me with those eyes. I am also direct with my approach and let her know what the plan is. I don't give her options or ask for her input.

Then she either complies or I move on.

So like I said, this all happens rather quickly. Def not several days, or worse weeks unless I am traveling and I can't schedule a meet-up.

I also don't do drinks. You are literally asking for the same thing as the other 97% of the competition. You are literally one more guy in the vast ocean of her options. Be creative, and for that first "date" put some effort into it (doesn't mean spending money btw, most of my first dates are free and leave an imprint in her memory).


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Nah don’t do all that shvt. Too much.

I have a full script in my signature. Ask an open ended question then get right into it:

“Tell me about it over a drink?”
 

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I think the fast approach works fine with lower smv girls (6s and 7s), but my approach is tailored to higher smv girls (8s and 9s). moving fast will be seen as thirsty, but taking time will be seen as intriguing and convey options

if any of you are consistently dating 'prime smv' women (age 19-24...and 8+ in looks) then let me know if you agree/disagree
 
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I think the fast approach works fine with lower smv girls (6s and 7s), but my approach is tailored to higher smv girls (8s and 9s). moving fast will be seen as thirsty, but taking time will be seen as intriguing and convey options

if any of you are consistently dating 'prime smv' women (age 19-24...and 8+ in looks) then let me know if you agree/disagree
It's like driving a car you stop at the red lights and proceed when they turn green. You're patient, you aren't desperate, you don't need anything, yet you want what you want so you move stuff forward, gradually.

This girl that I probably will bang sunday has threw the kitchen sink at me in terms of ****-testing my way. Tried to ignore me, blown hot and cold, excessively flirted with me, tried to friendzone me, asked for my body count, got her bf to confront me, called my advances creepy, let me feel her up then deny my sex. I have simply remained indifferent and moved forward at my own leisure.
 

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my personal approach is to just have a normal conversation like i would with a guy - asking them about their goals, work, interests. it creates a frame of them qualifying to me, to show im not just sold on their looks. my responses are concise and emotionally dry/low effort....i dont flirt and there isnt much of a 'polarity' or attempt to attract; just attemting to get to know them and guage their interest. the only 'attraction' i create is by replying late and mentioning high value things about my life IF they ask...i always match their effort, response time and generally write less than they do. my aim is simply to convey that i am on the same level as them socially by matching their investment, effort and response times...and by disregarding their beauty

after a few days/weeks of low effort back and forth messaging...if they convey enough interest with their replies then i will ask them out for a drink.
im interested in everyone elses approach to messaging women, so leave your feedback/tips below
I'd say spot on except for you need to be less logical more gut feeling and intuition. You gotta ask yourself can you be bothered to respond to her text? Are your actions out of actual desire or rationalised.

Its okay to chase a girl a little bit. Strike up a conversation, y'know you like talking to her then ****ing talk to her. If im talking to a girl and she's not responding then I don't take it personally, in fact why would I continue with this conversation, its boring.
 
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