She's taking it waaaaay too slow. Is she actually into me?

Cerwin Vega

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Is she a fundamentalist religious Muslim or Christian and a virgin? If not, she is blatantly playing you.
None of the above, but I'm actually starting to suspect she's a virgin because of her childishness.
 

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A Russian Virgin? You live in the backwoods of Kazan or something?
Nah man, when I was studying in Moscow, the girls in my class were 18-21yo, 95% of them were virgin. Different culture man, Russian girls are conservative, religion is a serious thing in Russia.
I've met girls over 20yo (super hot girls) who had never kissed/been intimate with a guy. 0.
 

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A Russian Virgin? You live in the backwoods of Kazan or something?
What would you think of a girl who becomes all red and can't stop giggling at the word "penis"?

She also thinks she's the world's greatest kisser, probably because she's hot and lots of guys want her.
She said I'm a good kisser. I told her she's not bad, and she almost exploded lmfao.

In reality she's actually average. I've had much better with average-looking girls tbh, maybe I'm coping hard but I don't think this one had a lot of practice.
 

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I grew up in a limited similar environment in the US in religious school. Ironically, it just led to much worse hypergamy. I had to get out to start getting attention from more experimental women.
I believe you, but hypergamy and having sekc are 2 different things. Actually pro hypergamists almost never have sekc because they are constantly looking for a better option.
 
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Nah man, when I was studying in Moscow, the girls in my class were 18-21yo, 95% of them were virgin. Different culture man, Russian girls are conservative, religion is a serious thing in Russia.
I've met girls over 20yo (super hot girls) who had never kissed/been intimate with a guy. 0.
I just find it hard to believe that a demographic of women heavily favored for pornhub and fvcks on the first or second date tends to be virgins. Did yall forget that women are liars and probably have to be extremely cunning and manipulative to survive in a country like Russia lol? Your typical loud mouth SJW in a western country would probably get beat up in Russia lol.

What would you think of a girl who becomes all red and can't stop giggling at the word "penis"?

She also thinks she's the world's greatest kisser, probably because she's hot and lots of guys want her.
She said I'm a good kisser. I told her she's not bad, and she almost exploded lmfao.

In reality she's actually average. I've had much better with average-looking girls tbh, maybe I'm coping hard but I don't think this one had a lot of practice.
Dude, she got you with that innocent girl act haha.
 

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It is clear she is still making up her mind about you. She is interested, but probably unsure if you're worth her time and body.

But if you are enjoying time with her, and more importantly enjoying yourself then keep seeing her.

I do prefer to hold out with a girl I am actually interested in. Build the tension. Establish a rapport. Encourage a mental connection. So that when sex does happen it can be even better.

But at some point, she needs to submit to you and give in to your advances. Sex and intimacy are important in a relationship. Make sure she does not hold that power over you.


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are you a virgin?
Her: "Noooooo, come on *laughing even harder*, I was in a long-term relationship before.

She told you she's not a virgin.

As someone said once, " if she makes you wait for sex, it'll turn out the sex wasn't worth waiting for".

She is not a virgin and she just playing you. And you are playing right into her rigid frame. You're exactly where she wants you to be.
She controls the interaction, the pace, the sex,
You, giving up to her at that stage, will set
the dynamic for all your future interactions,
where she always will have the last word.
 
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She is into you but you have lie low and tone it down. You actually have a great catch and are unable to see it. If you want to use a girl as cumdump that is on you, but girls from Slavic countries have standards and don't put out for nothing, that varies of course of how westernized and broken they are. She sounds like wife-material but you are looking for a cumdump so you gotta look somewhere else.
 

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She is into you but you have lie low and tone it down. You actually have a great catch and are unable to see it. If you want to use a girl as cumdump that is on you, but girls from Slavic countries have standards and don't put out for nothing, that varies of course of how westernized and broken they are. She sounds like wife-material but you are looking for a cumdump so you gotta look somewhere else.
Is it common for them not to kiss until a 4th date?
 
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Is it common for them not to kiss until a 4th date?
That depends on the girl. Russian girls don't like to put out. They aim for marriage. Not all of them but this is the general attitude. If it is a high quality girl she will delay getting physical. If you are a high quality guy and befriend her she will start chasing you after one two months.
 

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This whole thread is cap. Even the most conservative of girls will kiss you by the second date when they like you. You are an option at best. Find a girl that actually likes you.
 
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