Why are women so bad from age 25-30

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I don't think it's a coincidence that Leo dumps his girls right around age 25. This is the last resort for a woman to reach her potential in her life. Unpopular opinion, I think a woman can hit her peak in attractiveness around 26-28 rather than 18-20, but I'm no bear lol. Instead of putting up a decent 2-minute offense or Hail Mary plan, they forfeit the game with a QB Kneel with 2 minutes left to go. My only theory is that most women are pretty fat and stressed out from 23-24 and this is their enlightenment period with a job that pays well for the first time coupled with the attention of men.

I also deal with college educated girls in a large American city setting, so my post does have bias.
 
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I think we can agree Leo is an exception - but it is fair to ask, is he onto something?! Or is it that he just doesn't want the kind of commitment girls that age tend to start thinking of?

Personally, as an average guy (that attracts women) and as an older man (@46), my cut-off is 30 for dating 'serious' - not that I look to date seriously much. And I certainly wouldn't date a women that is pretty fat - or fat at all. Girls from 25/26 have a tendency to think about the future and what they want (epiphany stage as they say, but they are still pretty chill). Girls from 30, esp. 33-ish onwards are more panicky about that they want (oof - careful, lads).

Not sure what you mean by 'so bad', though.
 

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They them selves say they aquire brains with age -- and that means manipulation. Where younger girl could think with her heart and fall in love, older girl will think things through and pretend to fall in love if the price is right.
 

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I'm not going to split hairs on the ages but the late 20's- early 30's group acts poorly due to their sexual power being at its peak. It's almost abuse of power. They have endless options, super spoiled, endless free attention and validation, haven't realized that their beauty will start to decline and so will their options with men.

Within their own groups, others begin to talk about marriage, babies, houses, etc. This puts pressure on the female to find a guy so she can acquire those things. This is when she broadcasts her delusional list of requirements to date. It's no longer fun and games, now it's a business to secure the best resources for her future.
 

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I'm not going to split hairs on the ages but the late 20's- early 30's group acts poorly due to their sexual power being at its peak. It's almost abuse of power. They have endless options, super spoiled, endless free attention and validation, haven't realized that their beauty will start to decline and so will their options with men.

Within their own groups, others begin to talk about marriage, babies, houses, etc. This puts pressure on the female to find a guy so she can acquire those things. This is when she broadcasts her delusional list of requirements to date. It's no longer fun and games, now it's a business to secure the best resources for her future.
How is late 20s early 30s peak SMV? They well on their way downhill at that point. I wont even speak to women that age, let alone fvck one.
 

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"Bad"?

I think you are asking the wrong question.

Typically that's when they want to transition into the next phase of their life, aka motherhood and being an adult and many guys don't want that until their mid 30s.

There is nothing "bad" about that. Just people who are entering or at different life stages.

This is why younger women like older men so often. Women mature earlier than men.
 

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I'm not going to split hairs on the ages but the late 20's- early 30's group acts poorly due to their sexual power being at its peak. It's almost abuse of power. They have endless options, super spoiled, endless free attention and validation, haven't realized that their beauty will start to decline and so will their options with men.

Within their own groups, others begin to talk about marriage, babies, houses, etc. This puts pressure on the female to find a guy so she can acquire those things. This is when she broadcasts her delusional list of requirements to date. It's no longer fun and games, now it's a business to secure the best resources for her future.
This is why 9s and 10s generally aren't worth it. Power corrupts them just like everyone else.

Honestly, it's not even power that ruins women though, it's whether or not they embrace hedonism and work their way the thousand c0ck stare. Women KNOW that this ruins them, so embrace it great evidence of a woman that makes terrible decisions.
 

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How is late 20s early 30s peak SMV? They well on their way downhill at that point. I wont even speak to women that age, let alone fvck one.
Like I said not splitting hairs. Use the age that you agree with. The point still applies. Age is relative.
 

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They feel they are at the height of their prime. Still youthful and in possession of a newly minted bachelors degree / possible masters. Their "careers" are under way --- for this reason they might feel entitled and are difficult to deal with. They laugh at a lot of guys and are disrespectful towards them - treat them like ****.

The one's that make it to 30 and are unmarried, single (no real boyfriend in the picture) are reminded by society that something is wrong with them. Their parents ask them when they are gonna hurry up and get married and have children, they see their friends one by one getting married.....women are all about image. You have to understand they put up a front a lot of the time - it's all smoke and mirrors.

All the I am strong and I don't need a man stuff is lololol worthy
 

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I'm not going to split hairs on the ages but the late 20's- early 30's group acts poorly due to their sexual power being at its peak. It's almost abuse of power. They have endless options, super spoiled, endless free attention and validation, haven't realized that their beauty will start to decline and so will their options with men.

Within their own groups, others begin to talk about marriage, babies, houses, etc. This puts pressure on the female to find a guy so she can acquire those things. This is when she broadcasts her delusional list of requirements to date. It's no longer fun and games, now it's a business to secure the best resources for her future.
This has been my experience with the 25-30 age group.

They feel they are at the height of their prime. Still youthful and in possession of a newly minted bachelors degree / possible masters. Their "careers" are under way --- for this reason they might feel entitled and are difficult to deal with. They laugh at a lot of guys and are disrespectful towards them - treat them like ****.

The one's that make it to 30 and are unmarried, single (no real boyfriend in the picture) are reminded by society that something is wrong with them. Their parents ask them when they are gonna hurry up and get married and have children, they see their friends one by one getting married.....women are all about image. You have to understand they put up a front a lot of the time - it's all smoke and mirrors.

All the I am strong and I don't need a man stuff is lololol worthy
25-30 is the age range when they still have solid youthful looks in most cases (but already diminishing from their 18-24 peak). The women who went to college and graduated from college are still impressed with their "young professional" status.

Agree completely on the pressure women feel to have a marriage to their names at age 30. Even in the more liberal Northeast and West Coast metros in the US, there's still social circle and familial pressure to have it done at 30. Women are all about image.

It's not like being 30-31 is a death sentence for a woman's dating life though. There are plenty of 30 something women whose vaginas are in big demand. They'll typically have to resort to swipe apps to get that big demand though. A 33 year old childless woman on an app has as much (if not more) demand for her vagina as a 21 year old woman who isn't using swipe apps.
 

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In my experience age isn't a root cause. If a woman is hot, at any age, she is going to be harder to date. As a general rule, how hot she is is a function of age... but not always.

I know women in their 40s that take care of themselves and are pretty hot, they are a lot more difficult than an average looking 30 year old. What is the FIRST thing a woman does after she breaks up with a dude. She hits the gym, starts doing pilates, goes on a diet, gets new clothes... why because she knows looks will get male attention.

The answer to the question of WHY this happens... there is a direct correlation between difficulty dealing with a woman and the amount of male attention she gets. Male attention is what drives difficulty because she becomes the seller and the men are the buyers. Gold is worth more than silver.... scarcity and demand.

As we all age, we gain wisdom through life experience... we learn to get what we want through emotional manipulation. Generally a car salesman in his 40s sells more cars than the 22 year old assuming they start at the same time. This isn't experience in selling cars, it's all about how you deal with people.

An older woman has wisdom. Women in her early 30s, as a general rule (again not all women), have seen it all... they are infinitely better at picking up subconscious clues than men, they can read men pretty quick and be fairly adept at judging intentions. If she is looking for a LTR, and you are just casually dating, she'll likely know this right from the start... unless you are REALLY good at running game, with a lot of experience doing this, you are not going to fool her.
 

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I suspect Leo keeps them around until they start to get entitled/complacent and then he moves on. Its so much easier to date someone who is just happy to be there instead of someone who already thinks half of what you have should be theirs.
 
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