Tom Brady's situation is concrete proof that dating for men is always a L

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

99.99999999999% of men will never be able to about to what Tom Brady has accomplished and he can't even tame toxic femininity. This is guy is 6ft 4, a millionaire, Chad looking, white guy, a household name, Top NFL QB, and he still took a big L. Guys don't feel down when a girl starts bull shvtting because it's inevitable at this point.

 

[SW15]

Tom Brady has always been simp-ish. He isn't as alpha as some might think. Earlier in his football career, he was dating Bridget Moynahan (6 years older) and he had a kid with her. He had already been a part of multiple Super Bowl winning teams and been Super Bowl MVP by the time he started with Moynahan. If you're Super Bowl MVP, one would think you'd be dating women 6 years younger, not 6 years older.

When you look at Tom Brady's current situation and try to relate it to the common man, the main takeaway is that the passage of time is often quite bad for monogamous relationships. 5 years is the shelf life of goodness for most monogamous relationships. Even when relationships exceed 5 years, as Tom Brady's did, women start to get bored in monogamy.

There is a good chance that Tom Brady did pound some other vag during the Gisele era, despite simp-ish tendencies.

Tom Brady never geo-maxxed. He didn't live in Latin America or Eastern Europe and date. He dated a woman from Brazil in a Western nation.

 

[Hoodie]

99.99999999999% of men will never be able to about to what Tom Brady has accomplished and he can't even tame toxic femininity. This is guy is 6ft 4, a millionaire, Chad looking, white guy geo-maxing, a household name, Top NFL QB, and he still took a big L. Guys don't feel down when a girl starts bull shvtting because it's inevitable at this point.

Women will always bullsh1t, it's part of the game, and you need to accept it. If you don't like playing the game do something else. If you enjoy the game, understand it and play it as well as you possibly can.

 

[Schwing]

99.99999999999% of men will never be able to about to what Tom Brady has accomplished and he can't even tame toxic femininity. This is guy is 6ft 4, a millionaire, Chad looking, white guy geo-maxing, a household name, Top NFL QB, and he still took a big L. Guys don't feel down when a girl starts bull shvtting because it's inevitable at this point.

A interesting thought. If Drew Bledsoe didn't get hurt, or the Patriots lost the AFC Championship game to the Raiders, would he still got her? Brady even has said if they lost that AFC title game to the Raiders he wouldn't been a starter the following year. Also, he has had cosmetic work done on his face over the years big time as well.

So with that said if he was a backup QB for a few more seasons and called it quits would he still get someone like her? Probably not. She wouldn't even know who he is.

Just amazing to think of it. If just a couple things went different, none of us would ever be talking about him.

I know some men are going to chime in and say Gisele is 45 and post wall garbage, but she's still very hot looking. I'd like to see SS members do better. They'd be tripping over their d*cks simping for her if she cold approached you.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Tom Brady has always been simp-ish. He isn't as alpha as some might think. Earlier in his football career, he was dating Bridget Moynahan (6 years older) and he had a kid with her. He had already been a part of multiple Super Bowl winning teams and been Super Bowl MVP by the time he started with Moynahan. If you're Super Bowl MVP, one would think you'd be dating women 6 years younger, not 6 years older.

When you look at Tom Brady's current situation and try to relate it to the common man, the main takeaway is that the passage of time is often quite bad for monogamous relationships. 5 years is the shelf life of goodness for most monogamous relationships. Even when relationships exceed 5 years, as Tom Brady's did, women start to get bored in monogamy.

There is a good chance that Tom Brady did pound some other vag during the Gisele era, despite simp-ish tendencies.

Tom Brady never geo-maxxed. He didn't live in Latin America or Eastern Europe and date. He dated a woman from Brazil in a Western nation.

I agree with everything, but I disagree with calling a top winning super bowl NFL QB not alpha. Dude is telling players 6 times his size what to do and taking hits from Defensive Lineman. Who is a good example of an alpha male then if it's not Tom Brady? I guy's standards shouldn't dictate whether he is a simp or alpha or not. Tom Brady could literally choose any girl he wants, and he picked her which differentiates him from men that are stuck with older women because they don't have a choice. I would date a girl older than me over a younger girl with a kid or obvious mudshark, I don't give a damn how hot the mudshark is because it's a huge dealbreaker for me. Does that make me a simp?

 

[SW15]

I disagree with calling a top winning super bowl NFL QB not alpha. Dude is telling players 6 times his size what to do and taking hits from Defensive Lineman. Who is a good example of an alpha male then if it's not Tom Brady?

There are men that can appear alpha in a workplace setting but not be alpha in their interactions with women. It happens in blue collar and white collar work settings. Plenty of masculine tradesmen/blue collar workers are subscribing to women's OnlyFans pages.

I guy's standards shouldn't dictate whether he is a simp or alpha or not. Tom Brady could literally choose any girl he wants, and he picked her which differentiates him from men that are stuck with older women because they don't have a choice.

Picking an older woman goes against a man's innate desires of youth and beauty. While Bridget Moynahan was attractive in the time she was with Brady, she wasn't youthful compared to him. That makes him simp-ish.

A interesting thought. If Drew Bledsoe didn't get hurt, or the Patriots lost the AFC Championship game to the Raiders, would he still got her? Brady even has said if they lost that AFC title game to the Raiders he wouldn't been a starter the following year. Also, he has had cosmetic work done on his face over the years big time as well.

I know some men are going to chime in and say Gisele is 45 and post wall garbage, but she's still very hot looking.

The Patriots played the Raiders in an earlier round playoff game in the 2001-02 season. The AFC Championship Game was against the Steelers.

Gisele is also 42 not 45.

So with that said if he was a backup QB for a few more seasons and called it quits would he still get someone like her? Probably not. She wouldn't even know who he is.

Just amazing to think of it. If just a couple things went different, none of us would ever be talking about him.

I'd like to see SS members do better. They'd be tripping over their d*cks simping for her if she cold approached you.

If Tom Brady was a career NFL backup, he probably wouldn't have gotten Gisele but he could have gotten a reasonably hot woman. Backup QBs like Brady Quinn and AJ McCarron got solid looking + women. The worst he would have done in most cases is a woman in the cute range.

The elite level athlete with the most disappointing looking long term girlfriend/wife is Roger Federer. He got an older, plain looking woman.

 

[EyeBRollin]

99.99999999999% of men will never be able to about to what Tom Brady has accomplished and he can't even tame toxic femininity. This is guy is 6ft 4, a millionaire, Chad looking, white guy, a household name, Top NFL QB, and he still took a big L. Guys don't feel down when a girl starts bull shvtting because it's inevitable at this point.

When did he take a big L?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I remember him saying in an interview how he's lucky to have her, and self deprecating to her.

Is that an alpha mindset? Maker her bigger than she is so he could be smaller? He said because either he believes it or he wants to say it for her approval, none of these make him having an alpha mindset, in football he is, and on paper he's the chad we all aspire to be, but in reality just another afc no different than we were in the past, but with status, money and looks.

No, that’s just PR. The red pill alpha shvt is terrible for marketing.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Relationships have a shelf life

They do?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

There are men that can appear alpha in a workplace setting but not be alpha in their interactions with women. It happens in blue collar and white collar work settings. Plenty of masculine tradesmen/blue collar workers are subscribing to women's OnlyFans pages.

Tom Brady is married with kids and a celebrity across all of America, so he cannot go around acting like Andrew Tate who is a celebrity to a select target demographic of males on the internet.

Picking an older woman goes against a man's innate desires of youth and beauty. While Bridget Moynahan was attractive in the time she was with Brady, she wasn't youthful compared to him. That makes him simp-ish.

Nah I think most men have deal breakers and at some point, accept dating an older woman over a young one. In my instance, I would choose a hot 32-year-old woman over a hot 18-year-old girl that is a single mom or a hot 18-year-old girl that is a blatant mudshark lol. Some guys refuse to date a girl that's not a Christian but will choose a date a single mom lol in which I agree after having several experiences dating non-Christians...Buddhists are the only ones that get a pass. I'm sure some people don't care, but I like steak and pork too much and I prefer my kid to be a Christian or atheist.

When did he take a big L?

His wife is butchering him and she left for Costa Rica or something lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

Why won't say we are lucky to have each other, we are good together, we make a great team, but why put her bigger so he could be smaller? He said something he doesn't feel just for optics, still doesn't look alpha to me, and look the results

Like I said, what is “alpha” is bad PR.

We all want to say look bvtch just get in the kitchen and be quiet. Most of us will get fired for saying that publicly. Guess we are all betas.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Like I said, what is “alpha” is bad PR.

We all want to say look bvtch just get in the kitchen and be quiet. Most of us will get fired for saying that publicly. Guess we are all betas.

yesssssss

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Why take the extreme of Tate? So he pretty much have to be a simp in order to not lose contracts, for people to like him, he needs to put her wife up so he can be down, he needs to say what their managers tell him to say, all for money and fame. Nice prison

What is he doing that makes him such a simp? Not having Harems of Young women and flaunting it?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Oh boy, where do I even start with this. For one, Tom Brady is by far one of my favorite athletes on the planet and what he has done in the NFL will never be rivaled by anyone else that comes along. Tom is by far the GOAT football player and even his situation with his wife is not that bad because apparently, she makes more money than he does!

However, as much as I love the work he has done on the field, I do think that Brady always gave off that simpish nice guy image. People don't realize it but he was a late bloomer. Even though he played football at Michigan, he was taken in the 6th round of the NFL draft and didn't grow into his looks until after winning a couple of Superbowls. Of course a guy like that happily wives up a supermodel. Even on the field and overall, he gave off too much of a clean guy sort of image. I think it had to do with the classy organization that the Patriots tried to make themselves out to be (despite Spy Gate and Deflate Gate lol).

I'll contrast him to someone like Cristiano Ronaldo who was also an ugly duckling before peaking at United but had his fair share of fun before getting married with a kid. The other one is obviously one of the game GOATs himself, Leonardo DiCaprio.

I get into it all the time with dudes on here who say "just work on yourself and it will come, no need to game". That is BS and some celebs are a testament to that. Just because you have money and status does not mean you will slay that much.

It is why, despite how much guys hate him, what Dan Bilzerian has done has been amazing.

 

[EyeBRollin]

That's one thing for example. He simpped for a post menstrual 42 years old woman now he will probably get divorced fvcked, super alpha.

Simped? He built a family with a foreign, wealthy supermodel…. How is that simping?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I have also talked about this in my college experience thread but dudes seriously overrate life for a football player. I played ball in high school (which in the Atlanta area is really competitive) and most of your audience are go to church every Sunday and no sex before marriage types. Even at a top tier football school, I noticed that the football players were not really slaying in the way others say they were. Sure they had their groupies and Jersey Chasers but that was it.

There is such a pressure in American Football culture to conform to that model citizen image. Just watch ESPN and see how clowns like Stephen A Smith come off as annoying SJWs. Now we have to see these imbeciles ruin MMA. However, that is the culture of American football and I am sure that even @SW15 can kind of speak to it given that he lives in Texas (mecca of football!). Most people that are really into the sport are your settled down and married at 30 with a kid and a house in the suburbs type of folks. There is a huge connection between Church and Football which means that sleeping around is heavily frowned upon. Now add the SJW infestation of the sport.

Compare that to world football (or what us Americans call soccer) and you notice how guys like Ronaldo (back in his prime) were sleeping with models left and right. Soccer stars sleep around way more freely, also have more international appeal due to the sport being popular, and they do not have the moral police holding them back. Even MMA stars have more freedom to sleep with all the women they want and play the game how they feel, plus women know that having some MMA dude by their side is more beneficial since he can beat the daylights out of a football player.

Now that's not to say that American football stars do not slay, compared to the average guy they definitely can. However, most come from such backwards religious areas (the south) that they are naive and you end up with situations like Deshaun Watson. Plus majority of football stars are fat and out of shape as well.

Personally, I am so glad that I stopped caring about the sport and the culture that comes with it. I may watch a major game but that is about it. The people you have to talk to are so irritating and morally self-righteous Bible Thumping normies that I do not even bother to watch most games at bars. If there is an important game on or if it is playoffs, I'll watch it. Other than that, it is a complete waste of time because 80% of the game is commercials.

Looking back at it, football fans were some of the saddest people I had ever been around whether it was pro or college. Most of them fat, a lot of them insane, and many of them living mediocre lives. Majority of them get married by 25 and meet their wives in high school, college, or church. Needless to say that they will shame the game community and guys like us doing well with women.

/rant

 

[EyeBRollin]

Is that something I should be impressed? Is that your goal having a foreign, wealth supermodel whom you can build a family with? Good luck to you and your goals.

It sounds like you have no grip on reality. There is no greater stock to breed with than an elite tier, tall, supermodel. Every man is born with an innate desire to procreate. You are delusional my friend.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Marriage is work...and it takes both people to do it. She has supported him for a long time with his career and putting hers on hold and taking care of the kids...at some point she wants there to be some type of pay off for that in terms of him being present with the family and not off doing his own thing playing football. Preparing for NFL games takes a tremendous amount of time, takes a tremendous amount of focus and literally for 10 months of the year he is singularly focused on winning and football.

ESPECIALLY to do it at the level he does it at...people don't understand that to be talked about as the greatest of all time at what you do, you have to be literally obsessed with succeeding at it to the point nothing else matters and everything else takes a backseat in your life....relationships, kids, friends, etc..it's not enough to simply be talented and athletic...you have to have a certain kind of drive and passion for winning and success that others don't have and the sacrifices you make personally are huge...most aren't willing to make them.

There is an expression "It's lonely at the top" and it's because of precisely that reason...the sacrifices you make in your personal life to get to that point are real and they are not reversible.

And so to people thinking he someone got the raw end of the deal, you simply have no clue as to these things.

He promised her that he was done and that he would focus on them and the family and then he went back against his word to chase another championship...it's like the ring in Lord of The Rings...his obsession with winning and Super Bowl victories and the attention and adulation of his fans has corrupted him in some ways and he is potentially destroying relationships with people he loves over it...he had a nice cushy job waiting for him at Fox with record money for a broadcaster and he put it on hold to fuel his addiction again one more time(maybe?)

She has every right to be pissed and upset...he basically told her what she wanted to hear and then went back on his word and did what he wanted without regard to her or his family situation. That's not how relationships work. At least not good ones.

People who think marriages actually work by you doing whatever the fvck you want with no regard for the other person involved are beyond clueless.

 

[Schwing]

There are men that can appear alpha in a workplace setting but not be alpha in their interactions with women. It happens in blue collar and white collar work settings. Plenty of masculine tradesmen/blue collar workers are subscribing to women's OnlyFans pages.



Picking an older woman goes against a man's innate desires of youth and beauty. While Bridget Moynahan was attractive in the time she was with Brady, she wasn't youthful compared to him. That makes him simp-ish.



The Patriots played the Raiders in an earlier round playoff game in the 2001-02 season. The AFC Championship Game was against the Steelers.

Gisele is also 42 not 45.



If Tom Brady was a career NFL backup, he probably wouldn't have gotten Gisele but he could have gotten a reasonably hot woman. Backup QBs like Brady Quinn and AJ McCarron got solid looking + women. The worst he would have done in most cases is a woman in the cute range.

The elite level athlete with the most disappointing looking long term girlfriend/wife is Roger Federer. He got an older, plain looking woman.

Even just having pro player in your resume is impressive even if you only played a couple games and a couple seasons. Even the crappy NHL players, short ones still get very hot women despite being a bottom tier player.

Even the worst players, backups, AHL caliber and third string backups are still better than over 99 percent of everyone else.
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Even just making the pros in a major sport is highly impressive.

Go on any OLD site and if you listed former NHL or NFL player you'd get tons of hits regardless how long you been in the game.

Having a pro sport to your title is highly impressive.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

That's one thing for example. He simpped for a post menstrual 42 years old woman now he will probably get divorced fvcked, super alpha.

He could have learned from Leo DiCaprio. Dumps when they're 25 years old, super Alpha, Super Red Pill and still alive, well and making movies (some of them suck tho)

Leo DiCaprio doesn't have children and doesn't hold a high point in society so he can get away with this. When you have a family and standard to hold to American society, you cannot go around fvcking 25 year olds left and right