I have used the boyfriend destroyer lines on very few occasions and I have had zero positive outcomes with the lines. The only thing you do show using boyfriend destroyer lines is that you aren't a beta male and that you have some backbone.
yeah, unsurprisingly they don't work haha.
'how long have you had that problem?', 'I don't wanna be your boyfriend' ,'that's cool. Anyway, can I get your no', 'Maybe it's time for someone better, 'I don't remember asking' etc etc etc.
All lines in various PUA courses for use with the boyfriend objection line.
I can count on half a hand the number of times i've seen them 'work'...kind of, in infields etc
In reality, she basically isn't even gonna say that if she is into you lol. And your fancy bf destroyer line is certainly not gonna cut any ice if she isn't! The only actual 'boyfriend destroyer' is her thinking you are more attractive than him
I have not gotten IHAB'ed much at all after 2010 and never IHAB'ed in day game. The women that I've approached within the last 5-10 years have been getting more sophisticated in their excuse making when not interested. Perhaps I haven't been getting the IHAB because women can sense my game is sophisticated and I will push back on the IHAB.
I actually thought the IHAB was dead. I got IHAB'ed in the 2000s a bunch. It happened enough to be annoying so I found my way to learning the boyfriend destroyer lines. I haven't had to use them much as I said above.
Every time that you get an IHAB, you must push back with a "boyfriend destroyer line". The IHAB line is an earlier version of Last Minute Resistance. Even if the boyfriend destroyer line doesn't work, you're still building your own game and showing that you are not a docile beta male. That's why I encourage to push back hard on IHAB. It probably won't work but there is a small chance that it will.
I agree with you that the best way to get a woman with a boyfriend is her thinking you are the more attractive optiom.
The infield video taken below in April-May 2021 shows that the IHAB is still alive.
I counted him getting IHAB'ed 3 times in that video.
IHAB #1: In the approach from 7:30-8:30, the guy did a good approach on the tall-ish woman (I'd estimate she was in the 5'7"-5'8" range) on an urban residential street as he approached her from the front. Overall, this is an approach was worth doing. Opened with "Hey, sorry, this is random but I thought you were very pretty." Yes, no shiit, she is attractive. But not "very pretty". He could have opened if he had nothing based on the tie dye and black pair of shorts she selected. If he opened with "I'm impressed with the pattern and colors on the shorts you're wearing. What made you choose to buy that pair of shorts compared to others you might have seen that day?", then you have some basis for the beginning of an extended conversation. Some women would give an unimpressive answer, which means she's not at all interested or has a bad personality, neither of which is good. Then, you can transition the conversation thread to a frame like Roosh's GALNUC from "Day Bang" or some other topical thread that would lead to a date agreement in approximately 5 minutes of talking (if going well) or the conversation fizzles out before the ask of a date. One of the reasons a conversation can fizzle out before the ask of a date is that the woman has a boyfriend. A lot of women with boyfriends are not talkative because they don't need to socialize when they are actively receiving penis. That was a shiit approach on all levels because he opened with pedestalization and asked for a number within 1 minute (unless video was edited).
The boyfriend she cites may or may not be real, I'm less inclined to think this boyfriend was real. He got the IHAB here based on lack of interest.
IHAB #2: The woman at 5:49-6:52 was alone on a park/street bench and had an open space next to her. Unfortunately, her face was in her phone at the beginning of the approach, indicating that she's occupied with something else and not open to being approached. Women without boyfriends are not going to have their face down in a phone on a park bench if they are serious about meeting men. Everything about her pre-approach behavior indicated that this wasn't an approach worth doing.
I think this one had a real boyfriend based on her body language.
IHAB #3: The approach from 20:31 to 22:16 was done on Dallas' most notable walking path for daygame. I have daygamed this location many times. There have been times I've done 2 hour approach sessions on weekends on this walking path and approached no one simply because there were no valid approach opportunities. This walking path has both sufficient foot traffic and demographically targeted traffic. Most women on this path are 21-34 and unmarried. However, the biggest problem with this path is the overuse of headphones/earbuds. There are way too many yuppie, college educated White women using headphones/earbuds on this path. The guy in the video approached too many women wearing earbuds, including the one at 20:31-22:16. She was nice about the rejection as a lot of Dallas women will be if the guy is reasonably good looking.
She did say at 22:07 that she was "kinda seeing someone" so that tells me she has a weak, early stage relationship and that the guy approaching had weak game.
This is not demonstrating higher value. A guy with the right game could have converted this opportunity, but that threshold would be high. Overall, this was not an approach worth doing because of the earbuds.
