Why has OLD gone downhill quality wise?

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
Am I the only one noticing this? I mean the Tinder, Facebook dating, Match, POF, etc. Before Covid OLD of course wasn't the pinnacle like it was in the mid 2000s, BUT there was still some decent, in shape women on OLD you would consider hot. Also, reply rates were much better, like 20 percent and after a few messages if they didn't ghost you could easily get their number to text and then set up a date. Simple.

Post Covid hardly any hot women. A lot more obese, single mom skanks and post wall. Very few over HB6 and pre wall. Match for example pre covid, granted a bit older girls, BUT by far the hottest women of all the dating apps, least skanky. Now it's a lot more tatted women, post wall, and fatty.

Facebook Dating was great 2 years ago. Lots of hotties when it first came out. Now it's just like Tinder. Fat women, or tatted up and trannies.

Women couldn't have gotten that much fatter.

But why is it when I still go in public, or like out to dinner the other night I had a really hot waitress, probably about 22 years old, and HB9, tight body. I see them in the wild like this out and about but on OLD I don't see these hot chicks like the hot waitress.
 

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
I do pretty well, haven't noticed much difference
Glad to hear! Maybe different in different areas. I haven't even messaged many women this summer. Not interested in fatties and single mothers. Plus have health issue lately so I just quit using OLD cause I'm in pain and not in the mood to date but went back on for the first time in a few weeks the other day.
 

BillyPilgrim

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 9, 2021
Messages
4,925
Reaction score
3,795
Why is almost everything going downhill? What we're seeing - including gender relations - has been planned.
 

BackInTheGame78

Moderator
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
14,683
Reaction score
15,842
Why is almost everything going downhill? What we're seeing - including gender relations - has been planned.
Mostly just people misremembering things from several years ago and filling in what they think happened versus what actually really happened...actually pretty common...the longer ago something happened the less accurate we remember it and our mind tends to fill in the blanks with whatever we want it to.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Joined
Mar 9, 2021
Messages
3,477
Reaction score
2,755
Age
29
Summer months are always terrible for OLD/dating in general because of hot girl summer. By the time the fall rolls around, they start waking up.
 

Zimbabwe

Banned
Joined
Aug 29, 2021
Messages
2,382
Reaction score
3,095
Age
28
Mostly just people misremembering things from several years ago and filling in what they think happened versus what actually really happened...actually pretty common...the longer ago something happened the less accurate we remember it and our mind tends to fill in the blanks with whatever we want it to.
I do agree with this to be honest, OLD was always the bottom barrel in terms of quality. Just look st the older posts on this forum.

It was NEVER actually good.
 

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
Summer months are always terrible for OLD/dating in general because of hot girl summer. By the time the fall rolls around, they start waking up.
Hmm. I got more dates in the summer months on OLD. A lot of teachers on there. Downside is those teachers many of them are the crazy cat lady types.
 
Joined
Mar 9, 2021
Messages
3,477
Reaction score
2,755
Age
29
Hmm. I got more dates in the summer months on OLD. A lot of teachers on there. Downside is those teachers many of them are the crazy cat lady types.
I've had zero luck with teachers and nurses. The only teacher I've banged was my ex that became a teacher later haha.
 

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
Mostly just people misremembering things from several years ago and filling in what they think happened versus what actually really happened...actually pretty common...the longer ago something happened the less accurate we remember it and our mind tends to fill in the blanks with whatever we want it to.
I'm 38 and things WERE different in society years ago. When I was in Kindergarten in 1989 I don't remember drag shows for small kids. Heck, when I went to high school in 1998 you hardly ever heard about gays in the open and the subject of trannis never came up.

I went back and got my BA degree in 2011 at a private university. attended from 2011 to 2013 and never heard of transgender and gender garbage and this was a liberal liberal arts university. Gays, yes that was in the open by then and a norm but still not overboard like it is today. heck in the early 2000s state voters were voting yes to banning gay marriage.

Around 2016 this transgender thing started up.

I was a few years older than the other students when I went back to college, but still very young looking so I still somewhat fitted in and made friends. From what I saw OLD wasn't used much around there. No need for OLD, especially for the ones who did live on campus. OLD wasn't popular. Also, the girls even back then were not nearly as fat as they're today.

Things have rapidly changed in society and not for the good.
 

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
I do agree with this to be honest, OLD was always the bottom barrel in terms of quality. Just look st the older posts on this forum.

It was NEVER actually good.
Totally agree, but I have to say even 4 years ago the quality was tons better than now. You still found some normal women on there on OLD and some very hot ones too.

I've asked women I've been on dates with about OLD. They all tell me they get flooded with messages from guys of all ages. Too young, and way too old. Many of them lame messages though like "hey" and that. They all said it was overwhelming keeping up with their inboxes.

One lady I was talking to on match a few months back said within 3 days she had like 80 messages! This was a HB 7 42 year old, never married career type woman.

On Match a couple years ago I made a fake profile for free. I took a pic of an HB6 woman, 29 years old. Only one photo and nothing in the summary so it was clear to anyone this wasn't a real, serious profile. Despite clearly being a fake profile I still got like 100 likes and like 35 messages in a couple days.
 

BackInTheGame78

Moderator
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
14,683
Reaction score
15,842
I'm 38 and things WERE different in society years ago. When I was in Kindergarten in 1989 I don't remember drag shows for small kids. Heck, when I went to high school in 1998 you hardly ever heard about gays in the open and the subject of trannis never came up.

I went back and got my BA degree in 2011 at a private university. attended from 2011 to 2013 and never heard of transgender and gender garbage and this was a liberal liberal arts university. Gays, yes that was in the open by then and a norm but still not overboard like it is today. heck in the early 2000s state voters were voting yes to banning gay marriage.

Around 2016 this transgender thing started up.

I was a few years older than the other students when I went back to college, but still very young looking so I still somewhat fitted in and made friends. From what I saw OLD wasn't used much around there. No need for OLD, especially for the ones who did live on campus. OLD wasn't popular. Also, the girls even back then were not nearly as fat as they're today.

Things have rapidly changed in society and not for the good.
The internet didn't exist back then. Neither did cell phones. It's almost unfair to even compare things between those two eras as those things changed literally everything about the way we live now.
 

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
The internet didn't exist back then. Neither did cell phones. It's almost unfair to even compare things between those two eras as those things changed literally everything about the way we live now.
Internet was around in 98-2002 when I was in high school. Never heard the term gay porn. All us guys were straight. I remember back then boys would use the library computers and try and look up porn. However, you didn't have free porn like porn hub back then and most of the sites were pay only for full videos. In 1998 my high school still had IBM computers that didn't have optical drives lol. They got internet but was slow as balls.
 

BackInTheGame78

Moderator
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
14,683
Reaction score
15,842
Internet was around in 98-2002 when I was in high school. Never heard the term gay porn. All us guys were straight. I remember back then boys would use the library computers and try and look up porn. However, you didn't have free porn like porn hub back then and most of the sites were pay only for full videos. In 1998 my high school still had IBM computers that didn't have optical drives lol. They got internet but was slow as balls.
No bro...all you guys weren't straight. People were terrified to admit they weren't and gay people pretended to be straight or be completely ostracized. Gay people are born gay, science has shown they literally have their brains wired differently. There are also gay animals. This has been a thing for thousands of years back to ancient Roman and Greek times.

Please stop this silliness claiming gay people suddenly just appeared in the last 30 years. Your credibly is taking a massive hit.
 
M

member160292

Guest
I think COVID has a lot of men very awkward and desperate now. As a result, women now have a stricter filter.

Tatted up chicks and single moms have always been around OLD since 2010. Nothing is new, except how you play the game. What's the alternative? Cold approaching? Lol
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

corrector

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
9,775
Reaction score
3,735
No bro...all you guys weren't straight. People were terrified to admit they weren't and gay people pretended to be straight or be completely ostracized. Gay people are born gay, science has shown they literally have their brains wired differently. There are also gay animals. This has been a thing for thousands of years back to ancient Roman and Greek times.

Please stop this silliness claiming gay people suddenly just appeared in the last 30 years. Your credibly is taking a massive hit.
Its more likely the pendulum has swung too far on the other side and that usually causes backlash. You dont need it shoved down people's throats and ruining long franchise movies and tv shows and undermining the masculine energy that made the shows or movies great (ie Terminator, 1984 vs Terminator, 2019 Dark Fate or the new Doctor Who, etc....) or being taught to children when its against their family's values. If conservatives were not racist, heck, I would even vote for them gladly.
 

BackInTheGame78

Moderator
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
14,683
Reaction score
15,842
Its more likely the pendulum has swung too far on the other side and that usually causes backlash. You dont need it shoved down people's throats and ruining long franchise movies and tv shows and undermining the masculine energy that made the shows or movies great (ie Terminator, 1984 vs Terminator, 2019 Dark Fate or the new Doctor Who, etc....) or being taught to children when its against their family's values. If conservatives were not racist, heck, I would even vote for them gladly.
I agree with most of this...I am not sure why gay people need to tell everyone and the world they are gay. I literally don't care and neither do most others.

Do whatever makes you happy as long as you aren't hurting anyone, I just don't need to be informed of it.
 

Schwing

Banned
Joined
Sep 1, 2022
Messages
73
Reaction score
26
Age
40
I think COVID has a lot of men very awkward and desperate now. As a result, women now have a stricter filter.

Tatted up chicks and single moms have always been around OLD since 2010. Nothing is new, except how you play the game. What's the alternative? Cold approaching? Lol
Which is why I think OLD has gone downhill. Before Covid hit like I and others said it was trash, but you still found some quality women on there (looks, and sane) and before covid they'd tell me they get bombarded by guys and it's overwhelming.

Throw in Covid and men more desperate due to lockdowns, and social norms now and this is what you get. The decent women like I described got even more bombarded for all directions and simply leave OLD. Or, in many cases you will see them join an OLD site and a week later they leave due to all the pervs and bombardment. That post wall chick I talked to lasted a couple weeks on OLD. She told me too overwhelming to keep up with all the messages. Btw normally I wouldn't message post wall but she looked cute for her age, and didn't want any kids and college educated.

So think of a decent look chick before Covid getting bombarded but times that by 2 now for her messages. It really is a super sausage fest on OLD now. All them guys fighting for the 5 percent of the chicks that are hot on there.
 
M

member160292

Guest
Which is why I think OLD has gone downhill. Before Covid hit like I and others said it was trash, but you still found some quality women on there (looks, and sane) and before covid they'd tell me they get bombarded by guys and it's overwhelming.

Throw in Covid and men more desperate due to lockdowns, and social norms now and this is what you get. The decent women like I described got even more bombarded for all directions and simply leave OLD. Or, in many cases you will see them join an OLD site and a week later they leave due to all the pervs and bombardment. That post wall chick I talked to lasted a couple weeks on OLD. She told me too overwhelming to keep up with all the messages. Btw normally I wouldn't message post wall but she looked cute for her age, and didn't want any kids and college educated.

So think of a decent look chick before Covid getting bombarded but times that by 2 now for her messages. It really is a super sausage fest on OLD now. All them guys fighting for the 5 percent of the chicks that are hot on there.
So adjust the way you approach OLD or be in the same pool as 95% of other men
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Top