an hour before first date, push back by one hour

[espanish]

this method was discovered and patented by me.
an hour before your first date, text her and say sorry I am [doing something masculine] and I thought I would be finished by now but let's meet at 7 instead of 6.

this provides you with several advantages
1) it shows you are masculine. I like to say I was fixing something, maybe my car
2) it makes you look less desperate. you have a life. girls are not your priority
3) it gives you something to talk about on the first date instead of looking weird. she will inquire. what was wrong with your car? and you explain and look even more masculine
4) it tests her interest. if she gives you attitude, you know she wasn't interested to begin with and you won't waste your time and money on a date

a lot of people say they don't like lying. they like polishing the truth, but not lying. if you have an ethical problem with lying then really work on your car an hour before the date.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Nope. I believe in keeping the commitments I make and being punctual. Nothing gives evidence of a weak character like not managing one's time and respecting others' time too.

 

[2Rocky]

if she pulled that on me i'd lose her number.

I had a guy who was going to meet me for a marketplace ad. When I'd been waiting 30 minutes after our agreed time I asked him how much longer and he said "15 minutes".....My only response is "im gone"

 

[Who Dares Win]

I dont see this working but it can be used to gauge the interest of a girl that shows average to low interest toward you.

It can also be a way to prevent potential flake since you are indirectly asking for a confirmation.

If you get a "nevermind we will make an other day" with no suggestion for replanning, you have your answer.

 

[member160292]

Too many games, sets precedence for her to do something like that in the future. Not worth the hassle just to test her interest after she already agreed and confirmed the date with you.

Just be yourself and go with the flow.

 

[SW15]

Rule of thumb. Always show up late. Punctuality is not the flex ppl might thing it is. Its a trate that women throw into the "if he did more dishes I would **** him more" category. Its a hard rule

When you live with a woman, she doesn't give you more sex when you do the dishes or other basic household tasks more. That's one of those things women say that they want but don't actually respond to in reality.

Too many games, sets precedence for her to do something like that in the future.

I agree. This is counterproductive. Just show up 5-10 mins late with no explanation.

 

[Velasco]

I had a guy who was going to meet me for a marketplace ad. When I'd been waiting 30 minutes after our agreed time I asked him how much longer and he said "15 minutes".....My only response is "im gone

Completely different scenario. In this example you were already at the place youd agreed upon to meet. Waiting for your friend to show up. Only for him to tell you he was going to be even later.

In his scenario, he's letting her know an hour in advance of their scheduled meet, that he'll need to push the date back a bit. Meaning she's not waiting at the bar wondering if she got stood up.

Not worth the hassle just to test her interest after she already agreed and confirmed the date with you

Words mean nothing. Trust your gut.

Two weeks ago I was out with the buddies. I went outside the bar to smoke a cigarette and a girl in a small group outside the bar immediately shifted her focus towards me. We began talking and she gave me heavy signs of interest. Touching and grooming herself, staring daggers at me and giving me...

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Just show up 5-10 mins late with no explanation

Why is the advice to show up 10 minutes late? To sub communicate to the girl that your a busy guy. According to the guys who preach this rule of thumb, a guy that shows up on time is subcommunicating to her that he's thirsty or doesn't have much going on in his life (personally I like to show up first so I can scout the venue and pick a booth where I want us to sit but that's just me).

 

[member160292]

Velasco, once you built up enough rapport with the chick before the first meet, she won’t be inclined to flake. Those that try to get the date ASAP are the ones that get flaked on the most. Sure, you can’t help getting flaked on at times. However, if you do your due diligence for why this chick should meet up with you, you’ll eliminate a lot of wasted time and frustration. I take a woman’s words at face value until she shows otherwise.

And yes, showing up intentionally late is a bad idea and a disconnect from reality.

 

[SW15]

Why is the advice to show up 10 minutes late? To sub communicate to the girl that your a busy guy. According to the guys who preach this rule of thumb, a guy that shows up on time is subcommunicating to her that he's thirsty or doesn't have much going on in his life (personally I like to show up first so I can scout the venue and pick a booth where I want us to sit but that's just me).

There is value in showing up on time, often before the woman, and selecting where you want to sit to affect proxemics for running game. I prefer not to sit directly across on drinks dates and I don't do dinner dates in restaurants prior to sex.

If you don't show up on time, you run the risk of the woman showing up first and selecting a seating arrangement that makes escalation more difficult.

If you do show up on time, you also risk communicating being low value and thirsty as you say.

Since most of my dates lifetime have either been arranged online or through a stranger approach, I've tried to show up on time to approximately 5 minutes late. A lot of women run late naturally.

 

[SMU Brah]

This is a compliance test that women usually are the ones running. I get the point of it, but you're not the woman, and the dynamics don't work for you the same way as if you were a woman. If you really wanted to gauge whether a woman would flake I get the purpose, but it doesn't equate to best practices for me. Plus women ghost so not even this method is foolproof.

If you're going to do stuff like this, just double book dates. And if both of them show up, a rarity, you prove yourself to be the sigma male who doesn't give a flying fuark.

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It's generally taboo for a guy to schedule two dates in one night: at some point, he looks at his phone awkwardly, takes a call, makes up an excuse, and leaves. Even worse: If the first girl somehow finds out about her date's second plan, she'll be beyond peeved—it's just about the principle of the

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[The Duke]

Nope. I believe in keeping the commitments I make and being punctual. Nothing gives evidence of a weak character like not managing one's time and respecting others' time too.

I feel the same as you, but my experience tells me women don't give two fuhks about ethics, morals, nor values. I learned all that the hard way. Proceed as you wish. I could write a book.

 

[The Duke]

Back in my high school days I had a racecar that I was always working on at nite. Racing was Way more important than any woman. Still is.

It never failed, I would schedule a date on Friday nite but my racecar wasn't ready to go for Saturday. So my solution was to tell that girl to come to my house and I would make her wait on me for at least 1-3hrs until the car was ready. And guess what, she did. We dated for 10yrs and even got married.

If she thinks you are all that she will comply.

Yep everyone of them has called me a dik at some point. But none of them left because of it.

 

[member160292]

Back in my high school days I had a racecar that I was always working on at nite. Racing was Way more important than any woman. Still is.

It never failed, I would schedule a date on Friday nite but my racecar wasn't ready to go for Saturday. So my solution was to tell that girl to come to my house and I would make her wait on me for at least 1-3hrs until the car was ready. And guess what, she did. We dated for 10yrs and even got married.

If she thinks you are all that she will comply.

Yep everyone of them has called me a dik at some point. But none of them left because of it.

Racing cars is an expensive hobby. Many women are attracted to that. I found that there is not a one size fits all glove. What works for you, probably won't work for others. If a man is not congruent with who he is, there is no game in the world that would save his ass

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Racing cars is an expensive hobby. Many women are attracted to that. I found that there is not a one size fits all glove. What works for you, probably won't work for others. If a man is not congruent with who he is, there is no game in the world that would save his ass

Wow, I think I've outgrown this forum along time ago, but I still enjoy lurking and chilling with like-minded guys, and usually only hangout in the "Anything Else" or "Wealth" forums.

Who honestly gives a **** what will impress women. When a man discovers what impresses himself, worthy and compatible women come with little effort on his part in seeking them out. Some women will hate him; others will love him. That's how it goes for all men who have a Mission in Life, to propose their best Offering in Service of Society and even Humanity.

 

[member160292]

Did I just become your soapbox?

 

[The Duke]

Racing cars is an expensive hobby. Many women are attracted to that. I found that there is not a one size fits all glove. What works for you, probably won't work for others. If a man is not congruent with who he is, there is no game in the world that would save his ass

They have killer radar for congruence.

 

[SW15]

If you're going to do stuff like this, just double book dates. And if both of them show up, a rarity, you prove yourself to be the sigma male who doesn't give a flying fuark.

I also get the idea behind double booking dates. There have been times when I was using swipe apps where I'd generate enough interest to have multiple first dates/early stage dates in a short period. I didn't double book an evening simply because I wanted everyone to get a fair chance. I would book 2-3 consecutive nights of dates or something like 3 dates in 4 nights . If one flaked, I wasn't waiting long for the next one, typically 24-48 hours. That seemed to work well enough for me.

In period where I solely arranged dates in person, I've had fewer prospects and not enough volume to double book.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Did I just become your soapbox?

Did I suddenly trigger your Envy? All men are our brothers, and we should respect them all and want for them what we want for ourselves.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Nope. Bad idea. Do NOT do this.

Men honor their commitments. You are destroying your own credibility.

This also falls into “game playing.” She will sniff this out in the first two minutes.

 

[Bigpapa]

Velasco, once you built up enough rapport with the chick before the first meet, she won’t be inclined to flake. Those that try to get the date ASAP are the ones that get flaked on the most. Sure, you can’t help getting flaked on at times. However, if you do your due diligence for why this chick should meet up with you, you’ll eliminate a lot of wasted time and frustration. I take a woman’s words at face value until she shows otherwise.

And yes, showing up intentionally late is a bad idea and a disconnect from reality.

kinda disagree … if you build too much report then you can be friend zoned or be put in the potentially boyfriend spot

you should not push for a date asap , but neither prolong it

ideally you will have a good feeling on when is to push for the date

your objective is to increase the buying temperature , not to increase report