Has OLD become this bad that even 2's and 3's don't wanna date anything below 7?

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It's in the title. I'm a pretty decent guy, have upped my income a lot this year and been hitting the gym since 3-4 months so my looks have improved as well. I'd say I'm a 7 right now, still have some ways to go. Considering OLD, I have been having basically zero success; went on a date on vacation yesterday with what I'd call a 3-4, went well, but now no reply to my text. WTF are women truly being bombed by so many high value guys that they have options of dating 8's and up, even if they're 3's and 4's?
 

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Get some good pics and cast a wide net. Yes, there will 2's and 3's who are difficult and delusional, largely out of insecurity. Ignore them and find the 5-6-7's who are into you.
 

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Get some good pics and cast a wide net. Yes, there will 2's and 3's who are difficult and delusional, largely out of insecurity. Ignore them and find the 5-6-7's who are into you.
Dude I can't even get matches to begin with. And I'm not too bad looking. And when I DM them on IG, no response in 99,5% of the cases.
 

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1. Whatever you may be in real life, your profile tells a different story. Make sure you're also a 7 in your OLD profile.

2. Expect to have to date at least 1 point down on OLD. If you want to get your level or above you need to approach women in real life.
 

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It's in the title. I'm a pretty decent guy, have upped my income a lot this year and been hitting the gym since 3-4 months so my looks have improved as well. I'd say I'm a 7 right now, still have some ways to go. Considering OLD, I have been having basically zero success; went on a date on vacation yesterday with what I'd call a 3-4, went well, but now no reply to my text. WTF are women truly being bombed by so many high value guys that they have options of dating 8's and up, even if they're 3's and 4's?
if you say that you are a 7 , most likely you are just average

money has nothing to do with your looks . No one knows how much you make
 

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We chatted now and have another date tomorrow, got worried there for a second. But apart from this chick, yeah...Pretty ****ty out there.
 

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It's in the title. I'm a pretty decent guy, have upped my income a lot this year and been hitting the gym since 3-4 months so my looks have improved as well. I'd say I'm a 7 right now, still have some ways to go. Considering OLD, I have been having basically zero success; went on a date on vacation yesterday with what I'd call a 3-4, went well, but now no reply to my text. WTF are women truly being bombed by so many high value guys that they have options of dating 8's and up, even if they're 3's and 4's?
Online dating is where the rejects meet the losers
 

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Dude I can't even get matches to begin with. And I'm not too bad looking. And when I DM them on IG, no response in 99,5% of the cases.
1. Whatever you may be in real life, your profile tells a different story. Make sure you're also a 7 in your OLD profile.

2. Expect to have to date at least 1 point down on OLD. If you want to get your level or above you need to approach women in real life.
Try using Photofeeler OP, and also experimenting with your different pics once you get feedback (PF is good, but it can also be somewhat skewed)
 

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Online dating is where the rejects meet the losers
The 20th century called, they want their sensibilities back.
The 1999 mentality still has merit to it in 2022. Why would a top quality woman go on a dating app? She does usually have enough options in the real world. Tinder/Hinge/Bumble is for validation. The Instagram DMs are even an uphill battle too but slightly better.

I'd say I'm a 7 right now, still have some ways to go. Considering OLD, I have been having basically zero success; went on a date on vacation yesterday with what I'd call a 3-4, went well, but now no reply to my text. WTF are women truly being bombed by so many high value guys that they have options of dating 8's and up, even if they're 3's and 4's?
Yes, this is exactly what's going on. I've even seen some of this attitude permeate into the real world. I, as a 7, have a 4.5-5.5 ranking women reject me.
 

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It’s challenging to provide feedback on OLD queries without seeing the profile. Again, post some screenshots (they can be deleted once you have compiled sufficient feedback).
 

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The 1999 mentality still has merit to it in 2022. Why would a top quality woman go on a dating app? She does usually have enough options in the real world. Tinder/Hinge/Bumble is for validation. The Instagram DMs are even an uphill battle too but slightly better.



Yes, this is exactly what's going on. I've even seen some of this attitude permeate into the real world. I, as a 7, have a 4.5-5.5 ranking women reject me.
Attractive women go online for supplementation and to seek a specific type she isn't coming across much in real life. There's validation in the mix as a motivational factor, but you can still find high-interest, attractive women as a 7-8 male by casting a wide net and screening for high interest.
 

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The 1999 mentality still has merit to it in 2022. Why would a top quality woman go on a dating app? She does usually have enough options in the real world. Tinder/Hinge/Bumble is for validation. The Instagram DMs are even an uphill battle too but slightly better.



Yes, this is exactly what's going on. I've even seen some of this attitude permeate into the real world. I, as a 7, have a 4.5-5.5 ranking women reject me.
I am in a place that is quite strong in terms of nightlife

guess what , online dating does not really work because there are a lot of things going on if a woman is out

the competition is not as tough as people think , and women usually are quite opened to being cold approached

there are a lot of promoters who are cold approaching left and right . Women are quite opened talking with them while guys usually are the ones who give the coldest rejection . I think that the problem in terms of cold approach is that wr think what us a guy would do in such situation , not what a woman would do

and most of the promoters are not even good looking and yet women are quite ok talking with them ( even for a couple of seconds )

if you want quality women you have to do go in real life

with old , as @Chowdah says you have to be extremely patient and should be only used as a way to extend your leads . Not as the only
Method used

someone who has things happening will not stay hours on tinder to swipe left and righT

Again , in terms of old we think like men not like women
 
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OLD is only to supplement your in person approaches. Remember women have SOOO many options, that they might have it narrowed down to "Men 21-22, 6'1" and above within .25 miles with interests in Yoga, Asian Water buffalo and Reiki Mushrooms." and NEVER SEE YOUR profile.

So go out to the places your kind of woman will be at.....and see them in person. Seriously. I met a dozen women in a Sunday afternoon at a free concert in the park.

I met another Half dozen at Trivia night at a Microbrewery.

I went to the Farmers Market and encountered a number of bangable women...

ALL IN one of the worst Dating markets in the nation according to "pick-up Experts"


PS if you live a varied, interesting and ACTIVE life, Interesting active people will come into your life.....that really is the secret...besides not acting like a chode....


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I'd say I'm a 7 right now, went on a date on vacation yesterday with what I'd call a 3-4, went well, but now no reply to my text. WTF ?
Back in my single days, this was the reason why I never even bothered punching below my league. I rather just take my chances and keep punching above.
 

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It's in the title. I'm a pretty decent guy, have upped my income a lot this year and been hitting the gym since 3-4 months so my looks have improved as well. I'd say I'm a 7 right now, still have some ways to go. Considering OLD, I have been having basically zero success; went on a date on vacation yesterday with what I'd call a 3-4, went well, but now no reply to my text. WTF are women truly being bombed by so many high value guys that they have options of dating 8's and up, even if they're 3's and 4's?
Men are so soy and low testosterone, they tolerate OLD dumpster fire. No spine or balls to approach but hours of boomer pods by marries dork who hasn't approached a girl since AOL messenger.

Grow a pair of nuts. Delete app. Go pickup girls. No algorithm or catfish. Pull or #next!
 

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