Jesse Pinkman's approach/field reports thread.

[20Humble5050]

I can imagine how a pale brunette look with blue eyes can be a turn on. I've had sex with many flashy blondes and brunettes.

Certified Brunette Cuties™ are my favorite. This is the kind of girl I'd consider 10 out of 10:

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I can imagine how a pale brunette look with blue eyes can be a turn on. I've had sex with many flashy blondes and brunettes.

I mean the key thing for me are the freckles man, the freaking freckles. Too many women try to hide them but I am a sucker for the freckles. Something about that look that has me raging. I always notice that these women are closet freaks, especially the soft spoken ones. Had one back in NYC who gave me the best BJ of my life even though initially she came off as very shy.

Nice brunette with pale skin and freckles, the kind whose skin turns pink when she gets in the sun. Telling you man, that is a once in a lifetime type of lay. I turn real dark in the sun so when I have a chick like that grinding against me man it feels great.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

8/28/22

Got so caught up in everything I forgot to share my field report for some daygame today. Decided to head out for some daygame but tbh, was way too in my head. Had just wanked yesterday despite having a great date so I kind of sat there all bitter for almost an hour. Had a wing hit me up saying he is coming and is there soon but took forever. When I see dude, he sort of tells me hey and is just walking around taking photos. Man, I swear, very few guys even in pickup groups do much approaching.

Been there for over an hour and still, not one approach. I am then at a crosswalk and near me I see this Latin looking brunette. No crossing sign and the cars are coming. I open her with "dammit I was gonna go for it" and she laughs. We make small talk after I tell her I was heading to the coffee shop and she looks good, introduce myself. She is from Spain, uh oh @Who Dares Win but seemed cool enough. Then on the way she sees a bakery and tells me she has to meet her friend.

I tell her its all good and ask for her IG, she shows it to me and then pushes follow (it was a private one). Well, at least its something so I am feeling better. Then, the day starts to immediately turn around in a negative way.

I am walking around not having done an approach since then and notice that on IG, she declined my request lol. I then see this cute redhead and open her, she gets kind of nervous but I was not showing intent either. What tripped me up is that there was a couple walking behind her but I went for it anyways, I always wanted to do it since I want to stop worrying so much about this sort of stuff. Redhead is French and then gets kind of freaked out. I smile and tell her to have a nice day since she is uncomfortable.

Then the uncomfortable truth, I keep running into her wherever I go and she looks at me. It gets uncomfortable so I try to keep getting away from her but she keeps running into me throughout the rest of the day. She is just wandering around.

Then I see this one hot blonde and turn around to try and open her. Tells me she does not speak English, yeah right.

Man, this is why they say cold approach is tough but I just need to get out of my own head. On to tomorrow, a lot to learn and take away, been on a downward slide for a bit.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Yeah, don't be starting convos around their t shirts, they're going to think you're trying to check out their rack.

Maybe if you're in the same (niche) establishment, but not as a stranger on the street.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If you're feeling too in your head man maybe take a break from writing about it (don't stop going out though). Could be subconsciously putting too much pressure on yourself.

 

[SW15]

don't be starting convos around their t shirts, they're going to think you're trying to check out their rack.

Maybe if you're in the same (niche) establishment, but not as a stranger on the street.

I've started conversations around t-shirts outdoors on walking paths and indoors in grocery stores and malls. It's acceptable. You can either start a conversation off of that or go direct AG Hayden or Austen Summers style and have your opening line be along the lines of "I noticed how attractive you are and I had to come over and speak to you".

 

[DreamAgain]

There is nothing absurd about any of this and I did meet women in my college days. However, you are adding zero value to this thread so kindly take your bitterness elsewhere.

Didn't mean to sidetrack your thread, my comment was well intentioned. I'll bow out now.

Just want you to re-evaluate is this how a high value man would act. Do you think doctor's/surgeons/scientists run around sarging random low value women during the day?

 

[SW15]

Just want you to re-evaluate is this how a high value man would act. Do you think doctor's/surgeons/scientists run around sarging random low value women during the day?

Many scientists have poor social skills and are incels. They aren't doing non-bar approaches due to a lack of social skills, not being high value. A lot of doctors and surgeons are married beta males. Some doctors and surgeons are not pusssy magnets either, also due to them being STEM guys with poor social skills.

The intent is your question is valid. I perceive that you defined a high value man improperly.

You could ask the following questions about high value men and they would be valid.

Would a 6'2" business executive with 12-15% body fat and a full head of hair be out doing random non-bar approaches on the street?

Would a 6'0"+ man who has big muscles and a nice tan be out doing non-bar approaches?

 

[DreamAgain]

Many scientists have poor social skills and are incels. They aren't doing non-bar approaches due to a lack of social skills, not being high value. A lot of doctors and surgeons are married beta males. Some doctors and surgeons are not pusssy magnets either, also due to them being STEM guys with poor social skills.

The intent is your question is valid. I perceive that you defined a high value man improperly.

You could ask the following questions about high value men and they would be valid.

Would a 6'2" business executive with 12-15% body fat and a full head of hair be out doing random non-bar approaches on the street?

Would a 6'0"+ man who has big muscles and a nice tan be out doing non-bar approaches?

Yes, your business executive analogy is better. However, I believe your point is actually a misconception that deserves some clarification.

Some of the most interesting and socially adept people I have met would be considered to have "poor social skills" by the common populace. This is because the topics that interest them are so different from the average proletariat that there is simply no commonality to be found between these groups of people.

Their ability to write and communicate coherently allows them to speak in depth and interest on almost any topic. Your random bar bro cannot even get close to doing this, as the number of books of the nonfiction and fiction variety they have read is close to zero.

These guys do not fit the conventional stereotypes pushed by the media of what a socially adept man is but I can assure you their wit and ability to speak about many different topics is very strong.

The world has become completely looks centric because the medium has driven the message. The most important characteristics of a person are the currencies used to show value with applications that only focus on the visual, and nothing on the internal. Real life imitates this art.

As Neitzche said, when you stare long enough into the abyss, it stares back into you.

If people on this forum and in real life in general started judging women by their brains, personalities, ability to show social tact and grace, they would filter out 99.9% of women, just like the women are filtering out all the lower-looks tier men.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

A lot of "high value" guys get comfortable and often date women well below their league or at least a point or two below them. If not that then they are either dating girls they knew growing up or girls they got introduced to. Most of them are in LTRs and committed relationships because it is just more comfortable. The vast majority of them do not have goals to get laid a lot and sleep with a lot of different women.

I know this based on having friends that were Chads who went on to be successful. Most of them settle into LTRs and then quickly realize, from talking to them, that they regret it because of how much fun they know existing outside of college. They don't normally sleep around though, they usually go from LTR to LTR if anything.

However, sleeping around does not mean low value. I know of guys who went on to become very successful in life that sarged at certain moments of their lives. One is a tech startup founder whose company was in Unicorn status before he got his money and bailed, now he dates models. It is a certain type of a man though who gives off more of a Dan Bilzerian or Hugh Hefner sort of vibe. Usually more of a late bloomer with things to prove but in the long-term happier than the Chad that settled down too quick.

In other words, yeah, most men do not do this because it is tough. Getting with a lot of different women that look good is tough!

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Man No Fap has been tough for me too. If I don’t do it then it does affect my performance in the bedroom so I have no choice

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

A lot of "high value" guys get comfortable and often date women well below their league or at least a point or two below them. If not that then they are either dating girls they knew growing up or girls they got introduced to. Most of them are in LTRs and committed relationships because it is just more comfortable. The vast majority of them do not have goals to get laid a lot and sleep with a lot of different women.

I think it's because these dudes didn't become high value until later on in their lives and the quality pool of women has significantly dried up by then. That guy you see dating a girl higher than him or equal more than likely got her in his early twenties. I'm in my late twenties, make 6 figs, and I would rate myself an 8-8.5 and I feel like I'm bitcoin mining when it comes to dating. I feel like single girl from 25-35 is a lost cause and some of them wake up before menopause and get back in the gym/detoxify as a hail mary before 40, but that's too old for me.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I think it's because these dudes didn't become high value until later on in their lives and the quality pool of women has significantly dried up by then. That guy you see dating a girl higher than him or equal more than likely got her in his early twenties. I'm in my late twenties, make 6 figs, and I would rate myself an 8-8.5 and I feel like I'm bitcoin mining when it comes to dating. I feel like single girl from 25-35 is a lost cause and some of them wake up before menopause and get back in the gym/detoxify as a hail mary before 40, but that's too old for me.

I don't know man. TBH, despite going to a pretty good university, I feel like I ran into way more attractive and hot girls after college than I did during college. There are a lot of quality women to be found IMO and I don't think it gets bad as people say. The only issue is that after college, you have more competition for those women. In college, there was no competition but the market was not accessible due to social restraints (Greek Life) either.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Man No Fap has been tough for me too. If I don’t do it then it does affect my performance in the bedroom so I have no choice

Its been tough for me too man. I feel like I have an active mind and sometimes in bed, I think back to my past lays that were good and lose my no fap doing it. I have done well to mostly avoid porn other than that day I just binge watched Nicole Aniston but bruuuhhh, it's been rough.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I don't know man. TBH, despite going to a pretty good university, I feel like I ran into way more attractive and hot girls after college than I did during college. There are a lot of quality women to be found IMO and I don't think it gets bad as people say. The only issue is that after college, you have more competition for those women. In college, there was no competition but the market was not accessible due to social restraints (Greek Life) either.

Yeah I definitely agree there, but I'm having issue finding women that are mentally stable lol. I think @SW15 can vouch for how nutty Texas women can be lol. I am also starting to agree with your position on Latinas lol. Mexican women depreciate faster than a BMW 5 series LOL. I had to drop 2 women because they were just too career obsessed, flighty and ADHD like, so I think I'm going to lower my age requirements on Hinge lol.

 

[SW15]

No Fap has been tough for me too. If I don’t do it then it does affect my performance in the bedroom so I have no choice

Implementing no fap was the most difficult thing I've ever done. I've had it going for years now.

A lot of "high value" guys get comfortable and often date women well below their league or at least a point or two below them. If not that then they are either dating girls they knew growing up or girls they got introduced to. Most of them are in LTRs and committed relationships because it is just more comfortable. The vast majority of them do not have goals to get laid a lot and sleep with a lot of different women.

I know this based on having friends that were Chads who went on to be successful. Most of them settle into LTRs and then quickly realize, from talking to them, that they regret it because of how much fun they know existing outside of college. They don't normally sleep around though, they usually go from LTR to LTR if anything.

I don't think going from LTR to LTR is a bad path in life. If there are short droughts between LTRs, there will be decent sex frequency.

Yes, there are high income earning men who are total beta males and reliant upon their social circles, which including who they knew growing up or got introduced to at some point. This is why I've said that social circles are often easier for getting girlfriends but the end game is often a ring. Social circles don't have much tolerance for men who change out women in less than 2 years of time. And, you can only pull that course of action 2-3 times until the social circle cuts you off from future introductions.

Yeah I definitely agree there, but I'm having issue finding women that are mentally stable lol. I think @SW15 can vouch for how nutty Texas women can be lol. I am also starting to agree with your position on Latinas lol. Mexican women depreciate faster than a BMW 5 series LOL. I had to drop 2 women because they were just too career obsessed, flighty and ADHD like, so I think I'm going to lower my age requirements on Hinge lol.

Women in Texas can be nutty. In Houston, your women are better behaved than the Dallas women.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Well, I am about to call it a day soon, was thinking of going out and daygaming again but decided against it again. However, if there is one lesson I am walking away with this August as it ends is just how utterly unreliable and worthless wingmen are. I mean I have winged with guys who didn't talk to one set that whole freaking night. Screw this. I feel like one takeaway for me is the value of being independent whether it is daygame or whether it is nightgame. I am just not relying on a wingman again unless I can trust them and even then, I will proceed like there is no wingman around.

I've found a total of 2 good wingmen if anything but any new ones, especially when nightgame is concerned, are so freaking worthless.

 

[SW15]

how utterly unreliable and worthless wingmen are. I mean I have winged with guys who didn't talk to one set that whole freaking night. Screw this. I feel like one takeaway for me is the value of being independent whether it is daygame or whether it is nightgame. I am just not relying on a wingman again unless I can trust them and even then, I will proceed like there is no wingman around.

I've found a total of 2 good wingmen if anything but any new ones, especially when nightgame is concerned, are so freaking worthless.

Welcome to my life. I've never had a good wing which is why I eventually settled on doing non-bar approaches of women who are already isolated. 1-on-1 approaches, no cocckblocking friends.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

The main factor that stands out to me after reading these experiences of yours is how the convo on the first date with the pale brunette involved sexual convo. You want to get her ***** wet. That is the main goal. You guys putting you arm around each other and kissing is all good! My question to you is why did you hold back? why didnt' you escalate even more? Women want sex just as bad as men do. If she didn't reject any of your advances then you should have kept going in that direction. Now you are relying on a second date with a girl who never truly got turned on by you at first, could sense your reluctance to escalate, and are now hoping to **** her by chance. Unless you see her as a potential LTR, you're better off getting rejected for being a masculine and confident sexual man rather than someone who is playing it safe and hoping for a second date. Moral of the story is that you should try to get her ***** wet first and foremost, and it's better to get rejected earlier than later so you don't waste your time!

 

[SW15]

Women want sex just as bad as men do.

This is true. Women don't have enough testosterone to make it true. Testosterone is a big regulator of sex drive.

Women have a stronger sex drive when they are ovulating. The problem is that most women are on birth control and not ovulating.

Female sex drive is more difficult to understand than male sex drive. Women do want sex and some have strong sex drives. However, even with male testosterone rates dropping, women still don't have as much testosterone. Athletic females who lift weights (even without clenbuterol or steroids) experience a small amount of increased sex drive but not as much as a man with healthy habits and young age.

The main factor that stands out to me after reading these experiences of yours is how the convo on the first date with the pale brunette involved sexual convo. You want to get her ***** wet. That is the main goal. You guys putting you arm around each other and kissing is all good! My question to you is why did you hold back? why didnt' you escalate even more? If she didn't reject any of your advances then you should have kept going in that direction.

His energy and aggressiveness were not on point due to having masturbated earlier in the day. A no fap practice does increase aggressiveness to a point.

Now you are relying on a second date with a girl who never truly got turned on by you at first, could sense your reluctance to escalate, and are now hoping to **** her by chance. Unless you see her as a potential LTR, you're better off getting rejected for being a masculine and confident sexual man rather than someone who is playing it safe and hoping for a second date. Moral of the story is that you should try to get her ***** wet first and foremost, and it's better to get rejected earlier than later so you don't waste your time!

The bolded part has been the biggest issue with me over time as I am someone who seeks extended relationships more than solely casual, fleeting bangs. You're mostly correct that getting rejected sooner than later is better due to time savings but a rejection is still a rejection. Rejection stinks. The best idea is to avoid it for as long as you can. Form the relationship, extract all value from it, and if it ends after some sexual success and ran its natural course, that is a good outcome.