There was a time when men married women in order to purchase more land, preserve power, etc. The women didnt get much say. In the middle east arranged marriages are still common.
I did this in my first marriage. I do not recommend it. It was a disaster.
+10, spot on. Thats experience talking. Ive tried it every which way. For you guys who are just starting out, burn this into your brain. It will save you grief down the road.
She is currently living in a Western nation. Western culture is poisonous to women.
A great example of this would be the older of my two divorced cousins. His divorce settlement was expensive and he didn't even have any kids in the marriage. He paid X amount of money upfront + spousal support for 1 year + to a woman. I considered that a horse shiit settlement. Why the fucck did she deserve one cent for anything? That divorce settlement was essentially a payment for past vaginal access. This is part of why I say men usually pay for sex in one way or another. My cousin was paying for sex during the marriage for various things to keep her around + that ending payment. Expensive vagina there.
I'm not necessarily anti-marriage. I am realistic and evaluate statistical trends.
There are those who haven't a clue, so they're left to gamble on the chances given by statistics. Then there are those who recognize what part they play in significantly shifting the odds in ones own favor.
I'm going to piss off a lot of people here so pepper your Angus.
+1
You pointed out that huge change over the past decade. Evident particularly because you go out.This is accurate. I would say that the current zeitgeist started around 1990. The era of 1960-1989 set up the current zeitgeist. The introduction of the birth control pill in 1960, the growth of feminism in the 1960s-1970s, and no fault divorces starting in the 1970s were the bigger events contributing to it. During the current zeitgeist, this is the reality.....
There's about an 80% chance of AT LEAST one of the following 3 things happening over the lifespan of a marriage...
The blue pill media occasionally publishes stuff about the fact that the pool of married people in the current time are having less sex than married people in the 1980s-1990s.
- Divorce
- Affair
- Long periods of a mediocre to subpar dynamic where the relationship just continues on based on inertia/societal pressure. The passion is gone.
Why Are We All Having So Little Sex?
Matt, a 34-year-old data analyst from Texas, and his wife dated for seven years before getting married in 2013. When they didn’t live together, they...time.com
Who Has More Sex, Married People or Single People?
Things have changed over the past few decades.www.cosmopolitan.com
Of course, single people are doing worse with their sex lives than they were in the 1980s-1990s too.
Divorce is rampant and men don't do well in divorce court. See article below about statistics surrounding divorce....
Divorce Statistics - Alpha Male 2.0
I often point to the current high divorce rates as evidence of human beings not being creatures capable of, or even desirous of, absolute long-term monogamy, vastly preferring short-term monogamy and/or temporary marriages instead. Usually I refer to either the “standard” divorce rate most often...alphamale20.com
I'd argue the "stats" presented above are numbers pulled out of his ass based purely on his opinion rather than any rigorously scientific discipline. I can't respect that, but as I pointed out, it's irrelevant because it's a skill and not pure randomness like a lottery. We can do something about it, masturbating over numbers isn't one of the things that's going to make the number more favorable though.
+1
Typically in a family case, a judge will rubber-stamp just about any wacky agreement parties will put in front of them. Judges actually hate family cases more than anything and will avoid them at all costs. So your cousin doing something weird and off the wall like he did through mediation may have been to his benefit honestly (under the circumstances of course). By paying her up front, he eliminates the ability for her to come up on some type of modification on support and get even more money out of him.
My cousin might have done ok in mediation. Paying his ex-wife X $ amount upfront + spousal support for a period between 1-2 years might have been the best he could have done. He got her to go away permanently, which has value. She also moved to another state, which was good for my cousin since he never had to see randomly see her around the city again. He lives in a metro area of around 300,000 people, so it’s possible to randomly run into someone. In a metro like Dallas (7 million), it’s very rare to randomly run into an ex-girlfriend. It is also very rare to run into some woman that you had 1-3 dates with & either did or did not have sex with.
No, it is actually highly unusual to not want any offspring. No need to reframe it. It is not normal for humans to desire living and dying alone.
I never said that I didn’t want children.
Despite all this- overwhelming majority of people still have that biological inkling to have kids… so they do.
None of the women I’ve had sex with over time have prioritized children during the time they were having sex with me. Most were using birth control. My ambivalent stance on children has had not much impact on my relationships or children. I lean more towards no than yes on the issue of children.
I dont know what you mean by having their act together. The vast majority of student loan debt and credit card debt is owned by women. Women on those sites often prostitute themselves to make ends meet. I think the men and women are equally in bad shape.
