What do I need to know to get started on OLD?

[needimprovement250]

I think that its time that I finally give it a try, and I was wondering what I need to know/do in order to get started since I’ve never used OLD before. I think it might be a good place for me to start because if anyone reading this has seen some of my other posts, I’m almost 29 and I’ve never dated or had a girlfriend. I’ve only ever been on 1 date and that was 7 years ago, I also lost my virginity on that date. Due to the fact that I have so little experience when I’m almost 30, I think that OLD is a good place for me to start since chances are that I’m gonna be pretty bad at going on dates when I first get started and at least I’ll never see those girls again if the date really doesn’t go well.

So I was wondering what kind of pics need to be on my profile and what should be written in my bio? I already know to expect lots of rejection and getting ghosted more times than I can count, and not to get my hopes up if I get some matches or first dates since they might not get further than matching on the app or going out that first time. Also, does anyone here take any precautions to keep themselves safe when meeting up with a girl from online? I’ve heard stories of guys who thought they were meeting up with a girl, but it ended up being a setup to ambush them. That fear is in the back of my mind and I was wondering if you guys do anything to keep yourselves safe when you’re meeting up with someone from online.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Volume, volume, volume is the name of the game. I'd start with 15-20 messages a day.

Bumble and Hinge are the two best ones I have had success with

Any chick with an angled picture from above is trying to hide that she is fat...auto reject.

Make sure to look at ALL pics. Some women will show pics from when they were in decent enough shape and then the last pic will be a recent one where they gained 50 lbs. They save that one for last clearly hoping guys won't look through all of them but can then claim it's not her fault you didn't look thru all the pics of you meet and ask why her pics aren't recent.

Create a fun profile. Don't be too serious. Show off your personality(yes they read it). Have some good pics. Intersperse them with some interesting pics of places you've been or nature, etc.

Don't be blatantly sexual unless they start it. You'll scare off more women than you'll get. Your goal is to meet them, you can't bang them over a text so this is better done in person.

Don't be lame or you get grouped in with the other 95% of the guys. Send messages that show you read her profile and have some personality.

Don't be her text buddy. Ask her to meet up relatively quickly and offer to exchange numbers.

Don't ghost until the day of the date unless you want a high flake count. Don't need to text constantly but a text or two a day helps keep you fresh in her mind.

Don't be afraid to escalate on dates. Obviously it won't always work, but most women are looking for sex too. You'll greatly help you lay count by being proactive in this department even if she isn't particularly interested. Maybe you caught her when she is horny and the guy she wanted to bang isn't available. You might only get one date but she might be open to fvck even if she isn't that interested.

Until you bang a woman never assume you'll see her again no matter how she acts. Continue messaging other women and building a pipeline of dates and plates to ensure until you have 3-4 you are banging regularly.

This is a good start, I'll add to this if I think of anymore. I've had massive success with OLD over the past several years and have banged at least 60 or 70 women over that time off it and been in 3 LTRs. This is what works for me. You may have to adjust based on what works for you, but this is a good starting guideline.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Meet in a public place.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Be warned op, most members here do better IRL than OLD so they will try to discourage you from OLD.

Ok, I warned you. Heres a copy paste from a previous post. Hope it helps:



DJ bootcamp? Your TASK was to talk to girls?

Im sorry I disagree with all of this. I dont like the mindset.

That stuff never really worked for me. Becuase the focus was on getting the girls. While this might work for some people, for me it created scarcity mindset.

What recently worked for me was focusing on doing stuff I actually enjoy, while triple booking with OLD matches the same date, time, and place to come and join me.

If none of them cancelled, I would go out with the hottest one and I would make something up to flake on the other girls. My main focus was enjoying the actual date more than the girl herself.

Btw, I dunno if Murphys law or what, but when I singled book, the girl would sometimes flake. When triple booking, none would cancel and I had to flake on the other girls.

I would invite them to a restaurant I was actually craving for, or to watch the latest blockbuster I actually wanted to see. I believe that being focus on enojying the actual date would give off the abundance mindset instead of neediness or scarcity mindset and girls would somehow sense it and they loved it.

Texting was nothing special. No PUA tricks.

Text One: "Hey girl. How´s ur weekend going?" When matching during weekend. If matching Monday/Tuesday it was "Hey girl. How was your weekend?". If matching Wednesday/Thursday "Hey girl. Any cool plans for the upcoming weekend?"
Her: Bla bla bla

Next text: "Cool. What do you enjoy doing with your free time?"
Her: bla bla bla

If we have suff in common:

"Looks like we have a lot in common. Im craving my favorite sushi place, wanna meet 5:30ish pm next saturday?" Maybe Im implying that since we have stuff in common I wanna get to know her better.

If we dont have that much in common:

"I live in X city by Y mall. Anything interesting near your house?"
Her: Bla bla bla
"My favorite Burger place is very close to your house. Wanna meet Next saturday evening and grab a bite?"


If there was a new movie I actually wanted to see.
"I wanna watch the new Marvel movie. Lets go on day 1 to avoid spoilers. My favorite movie place has a show at 6pm"

No long texts. No double texting. No over-talking or over-sharing. STFU, Keep it simple and more or less mirror her response time.

So she showed up at the date. Cool. At the end tell her something like "Text me when u are home safe". When she texts u shes home, I just reply "Descansa" which is similar to have a good nights sleep or something like that. Dissappear 1-3 days and ask her out again.

If she shows up AGAIN, means she has high interest. U r in the clear now. As long as u dont mess it up or lose interest in her urself, u will bang this girl sooner or later. Just remember to escalate.

Have you give exclusivity to a girl before? Ok, Never again give exclusivity to a girl unless you like her more than your last ltr, or at least as much. No way u gonna settle for less.

U in a ltr? How frequent is the sex? No point being exclusive if you are getting less amount of sex than u could get spinning plates. She should want sex more than you or at least just as much; dont became on of those guys in an exclusive relationship who only gets laid once in a blue moon.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Be warned op, most members here do better IRL than OLD so they will try to discourage you from OLD.

Ok, I warned you. Heres a copy paste from a previous post. Hope it helps:



DJ bootcamp? Your TASK was to talk to girls?

Im sorry I disagree with all of this. I dont like the mindset.

That stuff never really worked for me. Becuase the focus was on getting the girls. While this might work for some people, for me it created scarcity mindset.

What recently worked for me was focusing on doing stuff I actually enjoy, while triple booking with OLD matches the same date, time, and place to come and join me.

If none of them cancelled, I would go out with the hottest one and I would make something up to flake on the other girls. My main focus was enjoying the actual date more than the girl herself.

Btw, I dunno if Murphys law or what, but when I singled book, the girl would sometimes flake. When triple booking, none would cancel and I had to flake on the other girls.

I would invite them to a restaurant I was actually craving for, or to watch the latest blockbuster I actually wanted to see. I believe that being focus on enojying the actual date would give off the abundance mindset instead of neediness or scarcity mindset and girls would somehow sense it and they loved it.

Texting was nothing special. No PUA tricks.

Text One: "Hey girl. How´s ur weekend going?" When matching during weekend. If matching Monday/Tuesday it was "Hey girl. How was your weekend?". If matching Wednesday/Thursday "Hey girl. Any cool plans for the upcoming weekend?"
Her: Bla bla bla

Next text: "Cool. What do you enjoy doing with your free time?"
Her: bla bla bla

If we have suff in common:

"Looks like we have a lot in common. Im craving my favorite sushi place, wanna meet 5:30ish pm next saturday?" Maybe Im implying that since we have stuff in common I wanna get to know her better.

If we dont have that much in common:

"I live in X city by Y mall. Anything interesting near your house?"
Her: Bla bla bla
"My favorite Burger place is very close to your house. Wanna meet Next saturday evening and grab a bite?"


If there was a new movie I actually wanted to see.
"I wanna watch the new Marvel movie. Lets go on day 1 to avoid spoilers. My favorite movie place has a show at 6pm"

No long texts. No double texting. No over-talking or over-sharing. STFU, Keep it simple and more or less mirror her response time.

So she showed up at the date. Cool. At the end tell her something like "Text me when u are home safe". When she texts u shes home, I just reply "Descansa" which is similar to have a good nights sleep or something like that. Dissappear 1-3 days and ask her out again.

If she shows up AGAIN, means she has high interest. U r in the clear now. As long as u dont mess it up or lose interest in her urself, u will bang this girl sooner or later. Just remember to escalate.

Have you give exclusivity to a girl before? Ok, Never again give exclusivity to a girl unless you like her more than your last ltr, or at least as much. No way u gonna settle for less.

U in a ltr? How frequent is the sex? No point being exclusive if you are getting less amount of sex than u could get spinning plates. She should want sex more than you or at least just as much; dont became on of those guys in an exclusive relationship who only gets laid once in a blue moon.

I kill it on OLD, don't have a lot of free time to get out like I used to, nor a big group of single friends. It's pretty much cookie cutter once you figure out what works for you and you should be able to get repeatable results over and over again with new women.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

 

[BackInTheGame78]

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It's also easy for guys who are decent enough looking with personality and some flair to them who don't send the same boring, lame messages

 

[corrector]

It's also easy for guys who are decent enough looking with personality and some flair to them who don't send the same boring, lame messages

You can always post some sample messages you give out which gives you an awesome volume. In an online environment you can copy and paste from the more successful users and see if the initial interest is similar across the board if looks is not.that big of a deal. This way we will know if the personality or messages are why you are killing it, or if you are killing it despite that and its your looks doing the work.

 

[MatureDJ]

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your…

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[BackInTheGame78]

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your…

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I've never wasted my time on Tinder. Anyone using it is wasting their time when there are far better platforms that actually get results. POF is closing in on being as useless as well.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I've never wasted my time on Tinder. Anyone using it is wasting their time when there are far better platforms that actually get results. POF is closing in on being as useless as well.

Tinder has a bigger volume than pof and as an older guy you can get matches with girls in their 20's (I list my bio age as 42).

Do you mess with the women on pof who say they are "actively looking for a relationship"? I tend to avoid them almost completely.

 

[corrector]

Tinder has a bigger volume than pof and as an older guy you can get matches with girls in their 20's (I list my bio age as 42).

Do you mess with the women on pof who say they are "actively looking for a relationship"? I tend to avoid them almost completely.

Tinder relies more on looks than profile. Maybe he is a non chad after all and is really relying on game like he says he is. But what game is he running to go after women looking for LTRs? He invites them to his kitchen, prepares meal together than sexes them.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Tinder relies more on looks than profile. Maybe he is a non chad after all and is really relying on game like he says he is. But what game is he running to go after women looking for LTRs? He invites them to his kitchen, prepares meal together than sexes them.

Usually on the third date...although during lockdown I did that with 6 women and banged 4 on the first date.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Tinder relies more on looks than profile. Maybe he is a non chad after all and is really relying on game like he says he is. But what game is he running to go after women looking for LTRs? He invites them to his kitchen, prepares meal together than sexes them.

Pof actually has three different categories of "LTR" lol. Those "seeking a relationship", those "actively seeking a relationship", and those "seeking marriage" (LOL).

 

[corrector]

Usually on the third date...although during lockdown I did that with 6 women and banged 4 on the first date.

If they are looking for LTR/marriage, and you basically love-bombed them with emails and daily texts, etc.. to lead up to that moment. After you do the deed, you just ghost them?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If they are looking for LTR/marriage, and you basically love-bombed them with emails and daily texts, etc.. to lead up to that moment. After you do the deed, you just ghost them?

I never do any of that stuff bro. I chat with them, tease them, joke with them and make them excited to see me. It's honestly not that hard. Do you know how lame 95% of the texts they get from guys are?

Wyd?
Hey
Hey Whassup?
What are you up to?

That's like 95% of the type of texts dudes send...worthless, pointless texts that get you put into the lame category.

 

[eli77]

Stay away from tinder match.com and bumble take no more than seven pictures one with a girl one with the dog trust me it works and one doing what you like to do if you wear glasses get contacts.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Just be hot