Nightclubs are overrated.

[SW15]

Assuming you mean ALL dudes trying to do pickup.

I have known a few and might even post a thread on this talking more in-depth but usually, it is the following:

1. Some do genuinely make a good chunk of money but got into pickup to make up for the lost years of their early twenties spent working. Usually these are your engineers, finance types, and other white collar guys that worked 50+ hours a week in their early and mid-twenties so they could make money but are now more established so they can work less and focus on game. These guys tend to focus on daygame and low-key bars where you can hear people and don't go to nightclubs that hard though.

2. A small number, very rare, tend to have a successful coaching or pickup business (I am talking RSD-tier guys) that they make a good chunk of change off of so they can afford some of the more expensive cities.

3. The vast majority, which I will discuss in a future thread perhaps, have a situation where they live far away from the happening area, take a subway or drive to the hot game spots, and then practice game there. Most of these guys do not have their lives together, tend to still live with their family, live with a friend/sibling, and have no real future. I'd say 70% of the guys doing pickup are like this and it is a sad sight to see. They do not have their own lives together and somehow still find it plausible to spend a lot of time on "game" when they should be getting their $hit together.

A good example is a guy in NYC that lives in the boring parts of Queens but takes a long subway to Manhattan to game, not even having his life together while still commuting long hours for game.

I would think that a man would need something else in their life besides pickup. Having an income usually makes a man more attractive to women. I would think that Group 1 would still be smart enough to keep their jobs. Guys in Group 3 have no business being seducers until they fix other aspects of their life.

Your Queens example is a really good example.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I would think that a man would need something else in their life besides pickup. Having an income usually makes a man more attractive to women. I would think that Group 1 would still be smart enough to keep their jobs. Guys in Group 3 have no business being seducers until they fix other aspects of their life.

Your Queens example is a really good example.

Stay tuned for my upcoming thread

 

[member159871]

I agree. I’m not much of a club person, I prefer daygame.

 

[Bingo-Player]

BUT, there is a hack ( as always) ,and it's a easy one. GAME. Game game game. Having game will get you women everywhere.

Most dudes just standing against the wall untill they are hammered and are unable to form a decent sentence. The real DJ can capitalize on this. It's still a place where women show up in masses,are drunk and down for whatever. If you look sharp, and got your body language down, you can still catch a nice one every now and then.

Pro tip, dont drink more than 3 drinks within 2 hours ,and stay flexible and sharp. Other pro tip, go with " evil intentions ", dont go to bird watch women but go to catch birds. And leave incel friends at home ,,they will steal your frame and make you look bad.

Yeh true you can

I just find the whole atmosphere tiring so i wouldn't visit a club more than a handful of times a year these days

 

[SW15]

I agree. I’m not much of a club person, I prefer daygame.

There is something to be said for finding the style of game that best suits you. Non-bar approaching was always my true calling.

Bar approaching requires a lot of late nights. Unless I'm have insomnia issues, I prefer to go to sleep earlier. Even when insomnia hits me, I'm not at a bar doing approaches. I've never been a night owl. Night owls are great at bar approaching.

One option within the bar scene for men who aren't night owls is to do happy hour type approaching at bars between 5-8 PM. This is feasible and I have done that at times over the years.

There have also been a lot of times that between 5-8 PM, I went to evening fitness classes and did approaches before and after classes. The hours of 5-8 PM can be used for either bar or non-bar approaching.

I think more introverted people like myself are going to be better in non-bar approaching than bar approaching.

Swipe apps would be a good game style for an introverted person like myself. However, due to the flaws of swipe apps (which are many), I've chosen not to use that game style.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I'm just more happy and energized in a club scene where I'm more tired and irritable at a bar lol.

 

[tanchinos]

I tried clubs when I hit 18. What a waste.
Rest of my social time at that time was my skinny big-nosed days, getting evils from college girls- not exactly a great springboard for then hitting clubs.

Plus I was probably a little naive and unrealistic about my geographic location (Portsmouth, south England)

 

[lgbs2004]

I prefer nursing homes

 

[eli77]

Here in Miami they are old school

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Here in Miami they are old school

Yes sir, you are so right. LIV and Story are king but they peaked in 2014 to 2015. Now it is damned expensive and it is louder than I remember in my visits to Miami.

 

[SW15]

In general, clubs are not what they used to be due to online dating taking over, but I'm more likely to meet someone I like in a club than I am online (and I'm not very good in clubs, I'm OK).

I've done more bars than nightclubs since the late 2000s. So that was before the swipe apps but dating websites were pretty well established by the 2007-2012 era.

When approaching in bars and clubs as compared to a swipe app, they can't just magically disappear. However, plenty of women in night venues use the phony line about getting back to their friends. If not that one, they can come up with some other bullshiit. It's not that much different than the mid-conversation flake behind an electronic screen. As I think about it, the getting back to the friends excuse is the real life version of swipe app conversational ghosting.