Men don't really need "love" (it's bullsh!t), but rather to be RESPECTED!

[EyeBRollin]

You get a girl to like you, hint all along at a relationship, then when she falls for you, you lay the giant dog turd on her “I need to be with other women if I’m going to be in a relationship with you”

If she’s fallen hard enough then she’ll agree to it. With much resentment.

This is a keen observation, bro.

This is why men lie about being sexually monogamous. Do we really think a modern woman can truly swallow permitting her man to fvck other girls? She may play along with it for a while, then will just divorce him anyway.

 

[DonJuanjr]

That’s the game she’s playing. The unfortunate consequence is if you let her win this game, you transform yourself into a man who turns her off.

Then when cats ends up divorcing her fiance, it's always been his fault. Maybe it was, and he should just cheat, and take it to the grave...

 

[EyeBRollin]

Women reserve the right to demand your monogamy, but keep their own options open to leveling-up with a better man. That’s totally fair because she’s more important than you.

(In her mind)

And this my friends is the truth of the female mating strategy.

 

[DonJuanjr]

You’re not understanding the logic here. It’s very simple.

Women reserve the right to demand your monogamy, but keep their own options open to leveling-up with a better man. That’s totally fair because she’s more important than you.

Men are extremely disposable, dude. And it’s because, by and large, men make themselves disposable and the willing slaves of women.

No, I get it. I'm just showing the only scenario that exists in her head is one where the man takes a vow. The other scenario can't even register in her brain.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Finally, we agree! Although in my eyes he's not a "sucker," only a man who is on my wavelength, shares my values, possesses integrity and believes in staying TRUE to the commitments and convictions HE willingly makes.

He’s likely a sucker. Or he’s cheating on you as we speak. One or the other.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I just can't though. Call me idealistic, even stupid if you want, I have got to have faith and trust otherwise I might as well forget ever having a committed relationship or getting married.

No one said you cannot have a commitment relationship. All we ever said is that male commitment and female commitment are not the same.

Male commitment is vowing to protect and provision for a woman. Men express their love for women this way; not via sexual monogamy.

Female commitment is vowing not to fvck other men.

Despite understanding that men can fvck other women, you still are searching for men to conform to the female standard of commitment. That’s just not how it works.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Don’t worry. I get it. If I was a fox, trying to convince the chickens to let me into the henhouse, then I’d say “brah. You judging all foxes? I don’t eat chickens brah”

Then as soon as they let me in I’d eat them all.

Lmao! Facts

(Also applies to politicians)

 

[DonJuanjr]

I say the same things as you guys, yet I'm the pathetic weak one.... I'm thinking it's because she knows I have a low notch count, so I'm no better than the foam at the corner of one's mouth....

 

[EyeBRollin]

It baffles me how many females I’ve met, known, and witnessed who claim they been cheated on in every relationship they’ve ever had. They’ll complain about it. Yet then they still “require” monogamy from the next guy!

Do they ever reflect on how insane that sounds?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I think that alone is reason enough for a man to stay monogamous with a woman he cares about, respects and loves.

Again, this is trying to make men conform to your female standard.

My overarching point was that I’ve met women whom 5/5 ex boyfriends have cheated. The question she proposes - “Why can’t I find a man that will be faithful to me?” is actually insane.

To us men- we accept 100% as a failure of tactics and/or reality. The correct question is “Is sexual monogamy something I should even ask of men?”

I’m mostly certain that women are incapable of introspection. They’ll never ask that kind of question.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I’m mostly certain that women are incapable of introspection. They’ll never ask that kind of question.

Of course. She's showing it by her inability to even entertain the question I asked her. It requires introspection.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Of course. She's showing it by her inability to even entertain the question I asked her. It requires introspection.

Because it’s men’s fault.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Commitment = monogamy. Does it even need to be discussed?

Yes it does. Female commitment = Monogamy. Male commitment = protection and provisioning.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Is it really something women are asking of men though?

Yes.

“Where is this going?”
“I don’t want you talking to other girls”
“What are we?”
“When are we going to take this next step?”

I guess what I am having trouble wrapping my brain around is why the deception? Why not be open about it? Reach an understanding so your wife understands you, understands your nature, what' you're about.

Because women cannot handle the truth. If a man is upfront and says - “you can be my main girl but I’m going to occasionally fvck other girls on the side” then three undesirable possibities happen:

A) Woman refuses, moves onto a guy “promising” monogamy (most common)

B) Woman accepts only with the condition she can fvck other dudes as well

C) Woman accepts then down the line becomes resentful that he fvcks other girls. She later proposes option B or just leaves the relationship altogether

So men lie about this. Just as how women lie about everything else regarding their mating strategy.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Find better women mate. Seriously, they're out there. You may have to look harder, but they're there.

I mean:

B) Woman accepts only with the condition she can fvck other dudes as well.

Come on now, you can do better than this slooze.

Are you disputing the truthfulness of B?

 

[DonJuanjr]

Anyway, I have been hit with questions left and right so if you want to ask again, I will try to answer although I am fairly certain I already have answered, not sure. It may have been a question I missed.

Why won't you consider a man for long term commitment if he verbally states that he wants you to remain monogamous while he sleeps with women on the side? Knowing that he's bonded to you, and there's no risk of that bond fading.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I also think him having sex with other women threatens OUR bond. It creates a certain emotional distance and prevents intimacy.

Does it threaten your “bond” or threaten your provisioning?

 

[EyeBRollin]

It threatens "our" bond, it has to. You are sharing very intimate parts of yourself, parts that you should be sharing with ME as your wife, with other women. Even if it's only physically, it's still a threat to our bond on some level. It's inevitable.

A man who is capable of emotional bonding knows this which is why, despite his nature to have sex with others, he chooses to remain faithful.

I know there are men like this, read the "marriage" thread again.

Men, let this be a case study. Cat continues to project the female experience on to how we men view sex.

Cat, given the opportunity men actually would choose to have a beautiful wife and family and retain the ability to fvck other beautiful women if he could get away with it (no negative consequences). Men settle for monogamy mostly for financial and accessibility reasons.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Shall I provide names?

You're projecting YOUR views and reasoning on every man which is simply not the case for every man. It's just not not no matter how much you'd like to think otherwise.

Ahhh, right. You as a woman know men better than we know ourselves. Ever heard the phrase-

“It’s cheaper to keep her!”

We both know the truth. Men don’t want sexual monogamy. Give a man $100 million, put him around a few HB10s and watch how “faithful” he is to his wife.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No I don't, AGAIN there are men who believe same as I, it's right there in the "marriage" thread and in other threads.

Men on THIS forum.

Tag em.