nicksaiz65
Master Don Juan
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What’s up guys? Got a new bang last weekend. Wanted to share and make a FR because I think there are a lot of good lessons in here.
This girl, I met from grocery store Daygame. Standard direct approach. I was able to set up a Day 2, and get her on a date.
I felt a bit of anxiety before the date, which was surprising. Already, before I even got on the date, I could hear those stupid negative thoughts in my head talking to me. They were saying “she doesn’t like you like that bro” and “She just sees you as a friend.” I didn’t want that to happen again: so I set up a whole escalation/closing plan to use on the date. Part of my algorithm was forcing myself to act on positive assumptions even if my brain was telling me otherwise. I know that these thoughts aren’t true due to my last pull from Atlanta: I heard those same thoughts, and it turned out that the girl was really into me. I didn’t make a move and capitalize on it because of those thoughts. So I told myself that I wasn’t going to make the same mistake twice.
Once the date got rolling though, it was pretty cool. The anxiety basically disappeared even if my brains self limiting beliefs didn’t.
We met at my place for the date. I wanted to start off physical: so once we met I hugged her and told her that she looked great. She was like “same to you.”
We talked a bit, and drank some of the bottle of Sangria that I had in the house. After that, we went bar hopping. We talked and had several drinks. It was a fun time.
I made sure to kino her during the date. I put my arm around her, just basic kino moves and so on. I get in close to her ear to talk over the loud music. I knew I had to be physical, or this just isn’t going to work out.
She has a neutral reaction to it. She doesn’t lean into me, but she doesn’t like jump away from me either. I never understood why girls do this. But I remember when I talked about this with my wing, he told me that girls are just shy, and this is very standard. So I keep pressing on with the plan.
I also make sure that I’m leading on the date. I say things like, “Let’s go to the bar.” “Let’s go to the dance floor.”
Eventually, the club lights come on. I say “Well, we out. Let’s go home, drink a bit of wine, and kick it before you have to go.” She agrees. We go back to my place, and put on some 007 in the background.
One thing that is odd is, when we get home, she sits on a different chair in the room instead of beside me on the couch.
Before, I would’ve taken this as an Indicator Of Disinterest and probably given up. But I still have to execute the strategy. I remember when one of my wings closed this Latina: She literally sat on the opposite side of the bed from him. And he had to be like “Come here.”
So I use the same strategy. I said: “Why are you all the way over there? Come sit beside me.” She responds with: “Nah, I’m good over here! I’m comfortable in this chair over here.”
I decide that I’m going to execute this closing sequence no matter what. And I’m going to persist. So, I back off a bit. Just talk with her, drink wine.
I start sexualizing things a little more. We get to talking about how guys wear their shirts in the club somehow. So I unbutton my shirt halfway down, and I say something along the lines of “You like these titties? I had to work pretty hard in the gym to get these”
After that, I persist and tell her again “Come over and sit by me. I’m going to have a crick in my neck tomorrow morning looking over there to talk to you.”
She laughs and says “You know exactly what you’re doing! You’re gonna have to turn to talk to me over here too.” But she still does it, and sits by me.
We watch the movie for just a bit, and eventually I put my hand on her thigh, then around her. I make strong eye contact, and literally count in my head “One, two, three.” That tells me she’s ready to be kissed. We start making out heavily from there.
After a bit, I stand her up and just tell her to “come here” to the bedroom. It’s all downhill from there. There’s no LMR at all, and I bang her for multiple rounds.
Being very technical with my escalation and closing, really helps me. That way, I’m following the process no matter how I feel, and I can escalate and close no matter what. I’m doing it like this from now on.
I was able to crush my inner demons with an “outer game” closing method by having a solid plan and following it no matter how I felt. (Acting assuming the positive being part of that plan.) But I wonder, is there ever a point where I won’t hear these negative thoughts anymore? Now, by following a reliable, structured process that I always execute I can make sure I’m not fvcking up or bytching out. But I wonder if those thoughts will ever truly go away?
Roosh V does say, “Your mind is both your friend and your enemy, because while it gives you the cognitive ability to fulfill your goals, it also tells you that you are ugly and will experience nonstop rejection.” So it’s fine if these thoughts never go away, because I have a reliable means of crushing them now. I just wonder if they ever will dissipate. This is something I will think about in the future.
The strong leading is critical as well. It’s so much easier(and much more enjoyable!) when I have a full on plan like this instead of winging it. For me, I absolutely need a plan/structure/algorithm like this to be successful.
But thanks for reading! Leave some comments below and let me know what you think.
This girl, I met from grocery store Daygame. Standard direct approach. I was able to set up a Day 2, and get her on a date.
I felt a bit of anxiety before the date, which was surprising. Already, before I even got on the date, I could hear those stupid negative thoughts in my head talking to me. They were saying “she doesn’t like you like that bro” and “She just sees you as a friend.” I didn’t want that to happen again: so I set up a whole escalation/closing plan to use on the date. Part of my algorithm was forcing myself to act on positive assumptions even if my brain was telling me otherwise. I know that these thoughts aren’t true due to my last pull from Atlanta: I heard those same thoughts, and it turned out that the girl was really into me. I didn’t make a move and capitalize on it because of those thoughts. So I told myself that I wasn’t going to make the same mistake twice.
Once the date got rolling though, it was pretty cool. The anxiety basically disappeared even if my brains self limiting beliefs didn’t.
We met at my place for the date. I wanted to start off physical: so once we met I hugged her and told her that she looked great. She was like “same to you.”
We talked a bit, and drank some of the bottle of Sangria that I had in the house. After that, we went bar hopping. We talked and had several drinks. It was a fun time.
I made sure to kino her during the date. I put my arm around her, just basic kino moves and so on. I get in close to her ear to talk over the loud music. I knew I had to be physical, or this just isn’t going to work out.
She has a neutral reaction to it. She doesn’t lean into me, but she doesn’t like jump away from me either. I never understood why girls do this. But I remember when I talked about this with my wing, he told me that girls are just shy, and this is very standard. So I keep pressing on with the plan.
I also make sure that I’m leading on the date. I say things like, “Let’s go to the bar.” “Let’s go to the dance floor.”
Eventually, the club lights come on. I say “Well, we out. Let’s go home, drink a bit of wine, and kick it before you have to go.” She agrees. We go back to my place, and put on some 007 in the background.
One thing that is odd is, when we get home, she sits on a different chair in the room instead of beside me on the couch.
Before, I would’ve taken this as an Indicator Of Disinterest and probably given up. But I still have to execute the strategy. I remember when one of my wings closed this Latina: She literally sat on the opposite side of the bed from him. And he had to be like “Come here.”
So I use the same strategy. I said: “Why are you all the way over there? Come sit beside me.” She responds with: “Nah, I’m good over here! I’m comfortable in this chair over here.”
I decide that I’m going to execute this closing sequence no matter what. And I’m going to persist. So, I back off a bit. Just talk with her, drink wine.
I start sexualizing things a little more. We get to talking about how guys wear their shirts in the club somehow. So I unbutton my shirt halfway down, and I say something along the lines of “You like these titties? I had to work pretty hard in the gym to get these”
After that, I persist and tell her again “Come over and sit by me. I’m going to have a crick in my neck tomorrow morning looking over there to talk to you.”
She laughs and says “You know exactly what you’re doing! You’re gonna have to turn to talk to me over here too.” But she still does it, and sits by me.
We watch the movie for just a bit, and eventually I put my hand on her thigh, then around her. I make strong eye contact, and literally count in my head “One, two, three.” That tells me she’s ready to be kissed. We start making out heavily from there.
After a bit, I stand her up and just tell her to “come here” to the bedroom. It’s all downhill from there. There’s no LMR at all, and I bang her for multiple rounds.
Being very technical with my escalation and closing, really helps me. That way, I’m following the process no matter how I feel, and I can escalate and close no matter what. I’m doing it like this from now on.
I was able to crush my inner demons with an “outer game” closing method by having a solid plan and following it no matter how I felt. (Acting assuming the positive being part of that plan.) But I wonder, is there ever a point where I won’t hear these negative thoughts anymore? Now, by following a reliable, structured process that I always execute I can make sure I’m not fvcking up or bytching out. But I wonder if those thoughts will ever truly go away?
Roosh V does say, “Your mind is both your friend and your enemy, because while it gives you the cognitive ability to fulfill your goals, it also tells you that you are ugly and will experience nonstop rejection.” So it’s fine if these thoughts never go away, because I have a reliable means of crushing them now. I just wonder if they ever will dissipate. This is something I will think about in the future.
The strong leading is critical as well. It’s so much easier(and much more enjoyable!) when I have a full on plan like this instead of winging it. For me, I absolutely need a plan/structure/algorithm like this to be successful.
But thanks for reading! Leave some comments below and let me know what you think.
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