article: How Testosterone Therapy Is Transforming Aging

[BackInTheGame78]

Yea I notice first day or so my E2 is high (always bloated on injection day) , but I really don't want to mess with an E2 blocker. My hematocrit is always sub 48 so I'm lucky there.

You are lucky...my hematocrit is only sub 50 because I donate blood...usually when I get there after 8 weeks it's slightly above 50 and have seen it as high as 52...

Literally used to pass out from getting blood samples taken and now I donate blood every 8 weeks like clockwork. If someone would have told me I would be capable of this 10 years ago I would have laughed my ass off and said no way.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Oh, it's already handled that way, why do you think so many school-aged boys are on Ritalin? Also, Testosterone is a Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act of 1990.

Estrogen interestingly enough is not. "The Drug Enforcement Administration is designating two pharmaceutical preparations containing esterified estrogens and methyltestosterone as exempt anabolic steroid products under the Controlled Substances Act."

And there ya have it. The minute my serum levels drop below what I consider to be a healthy threshold I'll go on TRT, no questions asked.

It might be on that list but the worst that usually happens is they just confiscate your shipment. Have not heard of anyone going to jail for testosterone unless they are a supplier.

 

[Who Dares Win]

The needles are really nothing man...I used to pass out when getting blood drawn...and now I inject myself with impunity without issue.

Also highly doubt it will ever run out of supply...very easy to get and manufacture.

So where do you inject yourself and how often?

I also strongly dislike pins in veins but dislike them much less in the rest of the body...also self injecting would be better than have someone else to do it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So where do you inject yourself and how often?

I also strongly dislike pins in veins but dislike them much less in the rest of the body...also self injecting would be better than have someone else to do it.

Abdomen or quad area into skinfolds. SubQ has been found to be as effective if not more effective than injection into muscle.

I do smaller amounts every 4-5 days to keep levels more stable.

Basically wipe the area with alcohol wipe, pinch a skinfold, pull it up and put the needle in at a 45 degree angle...

Quick, easy and pretty much painless.

 

[DonJuanjr]

SubQ has been found to be as effective if not more effective than injection into muscle.

From what I've seen, it's general knowledge that SubQ has a greater risk of abscess.

 

[SW15]

Lift weights, no soy products, no processed foods, no porn, no masturbation, regular sex, and lots of sleep.

That's the way to good testosterone levels.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

From what I've seen, it's general knowledge that SubQ has a greater risk of abscess.

Never have had this issue and have done it this way for a few years twice a week. I'd suggest they aren't wiping the bottle top or are not cleansing the injection site properly.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Never have had this issue and have done it this way for a few years twice a week. I'd suggest they aren't wiping the bottle top or are not cleansing the injection site properly.

These are dudes that have been administering for years also. Never having this problem with IM, only SubQ. Though one never knows if they weren't bullshjtting about their use. If you say it fine, then I'll trust it. Though if it's the same as IM, I'd just do IM. They may have been talking about supraphysiological amounts of compounds, not trt amounts. Maybe the volume of compound has something to do with it?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

These are dudes that have been administering for years also. Never having this problem with IM, only SubQ. Though one never knows if they weren't bullshjtting about their use. If you say it fine, then I'll trust it. Though if it's the same as IM, I'd just do IM. They may have been talking about supraphysiological amounts of compounds, not trt amounts. Maybe the volume of compound has something to do with it?

Could be...I would be willing to bet a lot of them don't properly cleanse both areas tho. Those type of things are often overlooked by a lot of people who feel stuff like that will never happen to them.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

So I’m talking about pharmaceutical grade in the US not the underground lab crap. The discussion is about testosterone being considered evil, not the legal ramifications.

Its classified in the same group as barbiturates whereas estrogen is not. That’s the point.

It might be on that list but the worst that usually happens is they just confiscate your shipment. Have not heard of anyone going to jail for testosterone unless they are a supplier.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So I’m talking about pharmaceutical grade in the US not the underground lab crap. The discussion is about testosterone being considered evil, not the legal ramifications.

Its classified in the same group as barbiturates whereas estrogen is not. That’s the point.

Fair enough...to be honest it is completely ridiculous that a steroid occurring naturally in the human body is on a list of drugs that are abused.

Nobody I have ever seen went and robbed their parents to get a testosterone fix.

 

[Machine10033]

Fair enough...to be honest it is completely ridiculous that a steroid occurring naturally in the human body is on a list of drugs that are abused.

amen...if your over 25 and wish to take Testosterone...you should be able to. But what about the health ramifications. I can go drink 2 cases of beer a day and eat McDonald’s all day... but have the DEA keeping track of the frequency of my testosterone prescriptions

 

[BackInTheGame78]

amen...if your over 25 and wish to take Testosterone...you should be able to. But what about the health ramifications. I can go drink 2 cases of beer a day and eat McDonald’s all day... but have the DEA keeping track of the frequency of my testosterone prescriptions

It's no different from anything else...if you go to excess you can abuse it...just like if I drank a bottle of vodka or took a whole bottle of aspirin or a whole host of other things you could damage your health with.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

 

[balder]

I have been castrated and currently have a blood testosterone level of 686.

I have been on and off TRT several times over the last twenty years and it always works. I first went on TRT after I was told that my testicles had atrophied 30 years after my vasectomy. After my prostate cancer, I was off the TRT for almost two years.

Now my Urologist put me back on TRT to prevent further spread of prostate related growth of cancers. He said that low testosterone seems to cause Prostate cancer. That is why young and middle aged men never get prostate cancer since they have high testosterone levels, it can also be cause of my experience with clenbuterol earlier.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Happy to share my story if it helps other men here on the fence. I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I have been an avid athlete and weight lifter since my early 20s. I noticed I didn't progress or grow like my friends did from training and decided to get my levels checked. I was at like 200ng/dl range should of been 800+. I was also always tired and felt weak.

I had all the other tests done to figure out why I wasn't producing a lot of testosterone. Brain scan for pituitary tumor (causes low T) blood work, etc. Turns out some men just dont have a good signaling system from their pituitary to the balls. I had all the preliminary screenings done prior to make sure my health was OK all around before I started. I do have genetic high blood pressure but thats managed with medication. Took me a LONG ASS time to find a decent doctor who was familiar with TRT. You want a good urologist, family doctors wont prescribe and dont know **** about this.

I take 120mg a week injection (I do them) divided twice a week every 3.5 days. 60mg a dose. 23 gauge needle. I have blood work every 6 months to make sure my hematocrit levels are in range (trt can cause a thickening of red blood cells). My levels are around 1000ng/dl now and I have felt better than I have in my entire life. I was near sucidal when I had low T. Some negatives are you want to **** a LOT. Can get irritatble if you aren't watching how you feel.

TRT can shut off natural sperm production but at my age I don't care, I was told its reversible by coming off and clomid can help with a restart.

Happy to answer and questions about this **** as I had to figure out a lot of it myself.

Any tips on how you eventually found a decent Doctor who would prescribe for you?

What is your weekly HCG dosage?

Thanks

-Augustus