Would being direct as hell work or would that be too intimidating?

[envydakid]

A girl and I met 6 months ago. We had a great couple of nights, we went out, hooked up, etc it was pretty intense and fun. Unfortunately I had to leave to another city for some months because of work and we stopped talking. Well, a couple weeks ago I came back town and hit her up. She told me she wanted to hook up again etc etc, long story short she ended up flaking on some weird excuse last minute. I got suspicious and found out she has a BF. She and I texted a couple of times in the following weeks and multiple times she made some sexual/romantic comments but then backed away when it was time to actually meet up. I stopped talking to her and went cold to make her understand that Im not gonna be there wasting my time with stupid games. Point is, I really want to have sex with her (I know she wants it too) and I dont know how to approach the situation. I guess I have two options,

1. Text her and be say something super direct along the lines of. "Hey. I really want you right now." or a variable of that. (Im open to suggestions, I dont know if I should even wait for a response or just go extra directly and do it as a all or nothing.

2. Dont text her anymore rn

I dont want to sound like a douche but its clear that she really desires me, and is having second thoughts because of some comment I (stupidly) made when she told me I would "leave again" and because of her current bf.

Thanks kings.

 

[SW15]

Don't text her anymore. Comply or bye. D isn't going to suck itself. @DEEZEDBRAH

 

[envydakid]

Don't text her anymore. Comply or bye. D isn't going to suck itself. @DEEZEDBRAH

Yeah I stopped talking to her for this same reason. I guess now that Im seeing my question from 3rd person its more of a , “is there such thing as a hail mary” and if so what is the best one. I dont care if I dont see her but I def would smash if given the chance. Thanks for your reply king.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Yeah I stopped talking to her for this same reason. I guess now that Im seeing my question from 3rd person its more of a , “is there such thing as a hail mary” and if so what is the best one. I dont care if I dont see her but I def would smash if given the chance. Thanks for your reply king.

If it was meant to be.. it will be. Such as love.. I mean lust. You have to let it go. If you love... urh... I mean lust after something, let it go. If it comes back, then it's yours forever or at least until one of you gets tired of the other. If it doesn't come back, the lust was never meant to be.

Oh well...

 

[envydakid]

If it was meant to be.. it will be. Such as love.. I mean lust. You have to let it go. If you love... urh... I mean lust after something, let it go. If it comes back, then it's yours forever or at least until one of you gets tired of the other. If it doesn't come back, the lust was never meant to be.

Oh well...

Yeah you’re right. Im just horny and was like I dont care if I lose her so then why not try something bold to see what happens

 

[SW15]

Yeah you’re right. Im just horny and was like I dont care if I lose her so then why not try something bold to see what happens

If you are quite horny, go out and do approaches.

If you pull back and never text the woman in the first post again, there's a chance somewhere like 3-8 months from now, she'll text you looking for sex.

 

[envydakid]

If you are quite horny, go out and do approaches.

If you pull back and never text the woman in the first post again, there's a chance somewhere like 3-8 months from now, she'll text you looking for sex.

Thanks Sensei I believe your words to be true.

I have money, look good, am smooth with conversations , got style, etc but for Ive been so obsessed with work these past few years and going out has become something Ive somewhat avoided for comfortability. I believe that when I get comfortable with approaching I will be living a whole different life. Like I really think that that aspect of game would change my life. Any advice to lose my fear of approaching? I think its a complete unknown territory and thats why I avoid it. So Im guessing theres not much to do but to actually approach and approach till I get comfortable.

 

[SW15]

Any advice to lose my fear of approaching?

Enhance your testosterone through lifestyle changes. No porn, no masturbation, no processed ingredients in your food, and lift weights.

Approaching is not fun. There are a few "Thrill of the Hunt" guys who are obsessed with approaching and getting new vag. Other than that, most men consider approaching a chore to some extent. If approaching in-person was liked by more people, online dating would never have been created.

So Im guessing theres not much to do but to actually approach and approach till I get comfortable.

You can read some attraction/seduction manuals and watch YouTube videos to obtain some degree of skill in the realm. At a certain point, reading and video watching only goes so far. You are going to need to get out into the real world and make approaches. It's easier to have the kind of bullshiit personality that is decent at approaching if you make the lifestyle changes above + read about seduction. I am good enough at riffing, making observations, and asking questions to do approaches. I don't do canned routines, though sometimes I will use the standard Roosh opener from "Bang" to start a conversation. Books like "Bang" (now out of print) and "Mystery Method" are good at teaching you how to develop the sort of personality that women desire. I have a whole peacocking thing that makes me look & act different from other men. Peacocking is one element of a bullshiit personality.

 

[envydakid]

Enhance your testosterone through lifestyle changes. No porn, no masturbation, no processed ingredients in your food, and lift weights.

Approaching is not fun. There are a few "Thrill of the Hunt" guys who are obsessed with approaching and getting new vag. Other than that, most men consider approaching a chore to some extent. If approaching in-person was liked by more people, online dating would never have been created.



You can read some attraction/seduction manuals and watch YouTube videos to obtain some degree of skill in the realm. At a certain point, reading and video watching only goes so far. You are going to need to get out into the real world and make approaches. It's easier to have the kind of bullshiit personality that is decent at approaching if you make the lifestyle changes above + read about seduction. I am good enough at riffing, making observations, and asking questions to do approaches. I don't do canned routines, though sometimes I will use the standard Roosh opener from "Bang" to start a conversation. Books like "Bang" (now out of print) and "Mystery Method" are good at teaching you how to develop the sort of personality that women desire. I have a whole peacocking thing that makes me look & act different from other men. Peacocking is one element of a bullshiit personality.

Thanks. I want to add that my looks are super unique (Im an artist) . I am recognized for my style so Im a natural peacock. My main problem is approaching itself, I think that its mostly because I usually talk and think of logical things/important business stuff, history, etc and I feel like to approach a girl you kinda have to talk about some “simpler” thing. Chit chat type of ****.

I appreciate the book recommendations I just finished Rationale Man so Im going to read those two now.

 

[SW15]

I want to add that my looks are super unique (Im an artist) .

There are some women who are into that. I'm not an artist. I've heard of some artists being chick magnets. Pickup artist Mystery could be considered an artist as he considers what he does the Venusian arts.

It'd be awesome if you aspired to be like the fictional main male artist character in Vicky Cristina Barcelona who banged Vicky and Cristina. Vicky was a uptight biatch too.

I am recognized for my style so Im a natural peacock. My main problem is approaching itself, I think that its mostly because I usually talk and think of logical things/important business stuff, history, etc and I feel like to approach a girl you kinda have to talk about some “simpler” thing. Chit chat type of ****.

Conversations with you sound boring. Spice it up! You're an artist. Talk about passionate, sensual shiit.

I am thinking about a time I went to a singles event. Every other guy was dressed kinda drab and I was overhearing conversations about people's work and their meaningless white collar jobs. Most of these women were women with bachelor's degrees or higher with white collar jobs. I wanted to vomit. When I conversed with women, I asked them about their personalities, interests, and passions. It was generally cool stuff. I also carried myself with an aura of confidence.

Look in the mirror and something like the following to yourself daily

"I am fuccking awesome. I am the man that women desire. Any woman would be fortunate to have sex with me. I am the prize."

Do that + peacock + the lifestyle habits I mentioned, and you're going into approaching from a better frame of mind. Maybe even some stuff from Rational Male too.

I appreciate the book recommendations I just finished Rationale Man so Im going to read those two now.

Rational Male became an instant classic in 2013 when it was released. It's still very well regarded. Good for you for reading it. It is nearly 300 pages.

 

[Murk]

Being direct always works, I started being direct mid 20s and got a lot of play. Just be bold, tell them they are sexy and you want to bang them and/or take them out for drinks. Be sexual from the beginning it sets the frame and makes life easier, very hard to turn hypersexual from a friendly frame, may come across as creepy as opposed to confident if you do it from the off.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Yes. Bold works. But it’s how you deliver it. Rock the artist vibe thing, chicks dig that. My fiancé dresses LA rock star. He’s got long dark blonde hair (almost as long as mine). The other night we go out here’s what he wears:

1. Long hair, down & straight (think Axel Rose)
2. White jeans with a baroque pattern woven in them (like a denim damask)
3. Navy on black sheer burn out velvet dress shirt worn open at the neck/chest
4. Black boots
5. Rings on 7 fingers, earrings, heavy neck chain & pendant

Total artist/rock star/cool vibe. Womens heads swivel everywhere we go. He also often wears a leather top hat. He’s tall so he stands out. He likes to stand out & like you naturally peacocks.

When you already stand out bold works particularly well. You just need to calibrate how you open a conversation to suit your personality. A casual “How’s it going?” Can be enough to break the ice to chat. If that gets a warm response follow up with “Been doing anything cool today?” You are asking about them while qualifying subtly (cool, what do they find cool…)

A good book is The Fine Art of Small Talk by Deborah Fine. Introverted engineer who was super awkward but mastered small talk. Small book, great practical info.

Cheers

 

[Murk]

My fiancé dresses LA rock star.

Hey BE long time no speak, congrats on the engagement!

 

[BeExcellent]

Hey BE long time no speak, congrats on the engagement!

You’re sweet Hope things are well with you!

Cheers

 

[Slowhandluke]

Enhance your testosterone through lifestyle changes. No porn, no masturbation, no processed ingredients in your food, and lift weights.

Approaching is not fun. There are a few "Thrill of the Hunt" guys who are obsessed with approaching and getting new vag. Other than that, most men consider approaching a chore to some extent. If approaching in-person was liked by more people, online dating would never have been created.

Shiet... I do most of the above, except for the underlined parts... I don't know. For me if I don't get some sort of release, I'm extremely horny esp. after working out or playing basketball; the more in shape the more horny I get. If I didn't find another avenue of release, I'd probably be dating someone already (who may not be a good match) -- or heck even married; for me, I think better if I'm not too horny. I'm more rational when it comes to women when I'm not too horny.

Plus, I actually do like approaching women when I'm not so aroused. There needs to be a balance. Too horny and I come off as desperate... With the right balance, I'm just a sociable person that is there just to talk to people. So yeah, I'm not sure if I'm 100% on board with the underlined parts of the above quote.

 

[envydakid]

Advice from the old lady:

Yes. Bold works. But it’s how you deliver it. Rock the artist vibe thing, chicks dig that. My fiancé dresses LA rock star. He’s got long dark blonde hair (almost as long as mine). The other night we go out here’s what he wears:

1. Long hair, down & straight (think Axel Rose)
2. White jeans with a baroque pattern woven in them (like a denim damask)
3. Navy on black sheer burn out velvet dress shirt worn open at the neck/chest
4. Black boots
5. Rings on 7 fingers, earrings, heavy neck chain & pendant

Total artist/rock star/cool vibe. Womens heads swivel everywhere we go. He also often wears a leather top hat. He’s tall so he stands out. He likes to stand out & like you naturally peacocks.

When you already stand out bold works particularly well. You just need to calibrate how you open a conversation to suit your personality. A casual “How’s it going?” Can be enough to break the ice to chat. If that gets a warm response follow up with “Been doing anything cool today?” You are asking about them while qualifying subtly (cool, what do they find cool…)

A good book is The Fine Art of Small Talk by Deborah Fine. Introverted engineer who was super awkward but mastered small talk. Small book, great practical info.

Cheers

Thanks a lot. His style sounds fire and I want to add that my style is as “extreme” as his. Also long hair, rock vibes combines with Hip Hop.
Im down to be bold, but I would love for you to give me some examples of “being bold” because Im not sure if my definition of being bold is accurate!

Also, appreciate a lot the book you recommended. Chit chat is definitely an art that I have forgotten and its holding me back. Whenever I go out to dates with women its always super fun and conversation flows beautifully. Its more of the most basic chit chat that I have trouble with. Like literally seeing a girl outside during the day/night and approaching her I just have no idea what to say. On the other hand, if Im having drinks or dinner with whatever girl Im not nervous or anything its more of the approaching chit chat.

Thanks again I said a lot but hopefully you can guide me a little bit more in terms of how direct I can be.

Cheers and congrats

 

[envydakid]

Being direct always works, I started being direct mid 20s and got a lot of play. Just be bold, tell them they are sexy and you want to bang them and/or take them out for drinks. Be sexual from the beginning it sets the frame and makes life easier, very hard to turn hypersexual from a friendly frame, may come across as creepy as opposed to confident if you do it from the off.

Love the idea. Could you please give me a few examples of being direct? Thanks king

 

[envydakid]

There are some women who are into that. I'm not an artist. I've heard of some artists being chick magnets. Pickup artist Mystery could be considered an artist as he considers what he does the Venusian arts.

It'd be awesome if you aspired to be like the fictional main male artist character in Vicky Cristina Barcelona who banged Vicky and Cristina. Vicky was a uptight biatch too.



Conversations with you sound boring. Spice it up! You're an artist. Talk about passionate, sensual shiit.

I am thinking about a time I went to a singles event. Every other guy was dressed kinda drab and I was overhearing conversations about people's work and their meaningless white collar jobs. Most of these women were women with bachelor's degrees or higher with white collar jobs. I wanted to vomit. When I conversed with women, I asked them about their personalities, interests, and passions. It was generally cool stuff. I also carried myself with an aura of confidence.

Look in the mirror and something like the following to yourself daily

"I am fuccking awesome. I am the man that women desire. Any woman would be fortunate to have sex with me. I am the prize."

Do that + peacock + the lifestyle habits I mentioned, and you're going into approaching from a better frame of mind. Maybe even some stuff from Rational Male too.



Rational Male became an instant classic in 2013 when it was released. It's still very well regarded. Good for you for reading it. It is nearly 300 pages.

Thanks for your reply. Lots of valuable info.

I want to add that its more of the “opening” chit chat that I have some kind of anxiety with. Like whenever I go out with girls we have a great time, laugh all night, etc its more of the “damn theres this cute girl in the bar who wants me to go talk to her” and then I get in my head like how do I open?? Lol Sounds silly wheneve I say it but yeah.

Also love the movie reference you give. Im a musical artist though and Im actually locally famous atm and on the way to be way bigger so sometimes I feel like I have more pressure to say some smooth **** or to act like idgaf about nobody lol

Im curious about the passionate sensual talks though. I haven’t done this in my dates. Can you elaborate? I loved the dialogue in the movie trailer when he asks the girls to come with him to eat good and make love.

King of straight forwardness

 

[envydakid]

1. Long hair, down & straight (think Axel Rose)
2. White jeans with a baroque pattern woven in them (like a denim damask)
3. Navy on black sheer burn out velvet dress shirt worn open at the neck/chest
4. Black boots
5. Rings on 7 fingers, earrings, heavy neck chain & pendant



Cheers

Also Ive been looking for a heavy beck chain that looks and feels “real” rock. Ive been stumbling upon many chains that look too fabricated. Any recommendations as to where to shop for real rock jewelry/chain?

Thanks

 

[BeExcellent]

Also Ive been looking for a heavy beck chain that looks and feels “real” rock. Ive been stumbling upon many chains that look too fabricated. Any recommendations as to where to shop for real rock jewelry/chain?

Thanks

NightRider jewelry. Expensive but real deal.

Responses to OP about what being direct looks like tomorrow. Just home from LA & gonna hang with the man….