The average american male.

[Fruitbat]

The Millennials (1981/82 - 1996) have been a lost generation since the stock market crashed in 2007-09. The Millennials bore the brunt of the late 2000s/early 2010s and were disproportionately affected in 2020. No generation in American history has been crapped on as much economically as Millennials, especially the 1981/82-1988 ones.

Millennials Don’t Stand a Chance

They’re facing a second once-in-a-lifetime downturn at a crucial moment.

www.theatlantic.com

A good portion of men below the 80th percentile are essentially invisible. At best, they are bait for 30 something provider hunter females if they happen to have decent jobs.

Im one and I don’t think it was that bad.

my generation are possibly the worst in history.

i left school at 16 and got a full time job. There were no cheap labour immigrants (which ironically the millennials vehemently defend although they’re a big contributor to wage compression and housing costs)
Like most people, I didn’t lose my job in 2008. The unemployment was shorter and far less broad than the 1980s in Britain.

they’ve had the lowest interest rates and some of the best growth over the last 14 years. Now they can home work by and large.

no wars, social mobility far better. In 2020 major government paid their wages.

i feel far more sorry for current young people. All Starbucks jobs and having to spend vast amounts on useless degrees just to get an entry level job.

most millennials I know are entitled, left wing pricks who moan 24/7 that life’s hard and then moan About their parents - who fed, homed and raised them, because SOME economic factors were easier for them.

recessions were crazy pre 90s. Now you don’t even really feel them.

 

[SW15]

No.... YOU didn't feel them... I got my first job in 07. From 07-10, I was in a cycle of being laid off then called back. Most factory workers were feeling this.

@Fruitbat didn't feel them. I finished my MBA in the 2007-2008 school year. Interviewing for jobs in Fall 2007 and 2008 was a horrendous, traumatic experience that set me back years in career development and progression. I also felt the 2020 downturn too.

i feel far more sorry for current young people. All Starbucks jobs and having to spend vast amounts on useless degrees just to get an entry level job.

The overeducated, Starbucks barista stereotype started with the Millennials in the late 2000s/early 2010s downturn.

 

[bat soup]

"Rollo tomassi" "The average american male is overweight, unemployed, addicted to porn or sedations . Lost boys generation. No purpose...rudderless, lifeless!"

BANG. That SHOCKED me. Thats SO depressing.

The average American female is also overweight. However, the unemployment rate in the USA is 8.31% so statistically speaking, Rollo Tomassi is 92% FOS.

 

[Fruitbat]

No.... YOU didn't feel them... I got my first job in 07. From 07-10, I was in a cycle of being laid off then called back. Most factory workers were feeling this.

Yeah, but that was the case in the 80s time 20. The west hollowed out it’s industry.
the 1970s was full of strikes in these industries which brought the U.K. to its knees and we had to ration electricity and the dead piled up because we couldn’t bury them.

I think unemployment peaked at about 7%. Hardly the worst of the worst. It was 12% in the 1980s.

there’s a continual myth pushed by the media that millennials lost out to the boomers. This, I think, is more the media stirring it. They lean left and boomers lean right and they want a grievance. They want to turn children against the ones who cared for them. It was key to them galvanising support against Donald trump and brexit in the U.K.

 

[Fruitbat]

@Fruitbat didn't feel them. I finished my MBA in the 2007-2008 school year. Interviewing for jobs in Fall 2007 and 2008 was a horrendous, traumatic experience that set me back years in career development and progression. I also felt the 2020 downturn too.



The overeducated, Starbucks barista stereotype started with the Millennials in the late 2000s/early 2010s downturn.

If it was the 1970s and 80s, if you were from a working class background, paths like an MBA were not open to you. You would have left school at 15/16 and gone to work in a production line. There was virtually no social mobility. Interest rates were 15%. The U.K. had to bail out at the IMF cap in hand.

by 2008 I had 10 years job experience so I was probably lucky I didn’t pursue academic route.

Leaving education at that point was always tricky, but you have always had the university culture shock - the realisation that employers value education far less than the educational establishments let on. I had a larger salary than a Uni leaver when I was 25 and he demanded from my boss for a raise above me because he had a degree. Boss basically says the 9 years job experience I had is worth more.

I’m sure post GFC you got a job. We’ve had a very, very good run up to 2020. Im not sure what people thought the world before 2008 was like but it wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows. People were poorer when I was kid. My parents had it tougher I would say. Most households really struggled.

when I look at the views of millennials it really does scream entitlement and a special kind of victimhood - as if recessions were invented for them. We’ve had loads.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

That makes sense in the short term. Those effects will level off over time, but keep going with no porn and no masturbation. You'll be in a better place if you keep it up.

Port is rubbish. As a far younger man once upon a time, I'd disagree. Would dismiss it like bible thumpers and holier then thou dorks. It wrecks men and their motivation. It's the ultimate form of spectator mode. Dudes can't approach. Dur &&& fap.

If Options A-C are the only options in life, Option A is the best one. In option A, you must avoid porn and masturbation. As a male, once you hit your 30s, you will be a social outcast if you are unattached or marginally attached (shorter term relationships typically lasting 12 months or less).

it's ideal for acquiring buddies. Could be at your mma dojo, gym, bar, wherever. befriend guys. make wings. the problem is Gen z is busy trying to be pretty. fellas **** off to play house. Clarey warns men that their buddies won't be allowed out (especially if you flaunt the playboy lifestyle ). Most will be living with a fat wife and being a plow horse. Others will be divorced. Many will broke or so low testosterone, they will be incapable.

As I get older, energy is a utility and it must be used wisely.

Most people you know will be married and in multi-year LTRs. You'll barely see your married male friends and the guys in 3-5+ year long LTRs won't be much better than your married male friends. On the infrequent occasions that you do see them, you'll have less and less in common with them. Your siblings and cousins will likely have pursued the marriage and family path, so you'll even be a bit of an outcast within your family and have some less than ideal family gatherings.

It's a blessing and a curse. We're free. It's a double edge sword. by not playing house and following the beaten path, you have eons to pursue your own ambitions separate from the mainstream.

Should a man choose otherwise, after the DJ lifestyle, he's aware of the consequences and the fallout potential. I see lineage as the only possible alternative.

There is an Option D. @DEEZEDBRAH will be familiar with the following refrain. Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. Learn seduction and have sex with the high notch count woman. Stay in good shape to give her the vaginal tingles.

It's funny. I can't fathom monogamy.