Women worth your while always drop the handkerchief.

[thelambofdeth]

Obligatory strawman. Not all of us have unwarranted, fantastical standards. I have AA and low self esteem bc a long af drought...I don't even look at anything beyond a 7 and honestly my taste at this point is kinda frumpy. I dont even way some Stacy or objectively beautiful women...i'm more driven by things like her style, her personality, her attitude, as I like weird alt girls....(wow imagine that)There are dudes with delusional standards, sure, but this issue is so do many women. Even the average and basic ones.

Many of them think they're +2 what they are and would rather wait until some bored Chad pumps them before giving a shot to a guy in their league. That's the major component many don't acknowledge or even address.

 

[Atom Smasher]

There’s something about you that you haven’t yet been able to identify which is turning them off, or at best causing them to feel neutral towards you.
You seem to come off as a bit dour or negative here on the forum. I’m wondering if you are projecting a light, fun vibe to women, or more of a negative one.
Do you come across as having an attitude of being “above” them in value? If not, you need to start. While we men tend to think this kind of attitude will turn women off, just the opposite is true. The trouble is that we’re afraid to risk each “opportunity”, so we play it safe by being “safe” and “nice”.

I try to admonish men to be aloof and self-sustaining socially; To treat each social interaction as light, fun and self-amusing. Negative Nellies never do well with women. Women are looking for fun, light interactions with men who convey superiority.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Based on what?

Life experiences. The vast majority of women that men complain about are wh0res from the jump.

 

[Bigpapa]

http://pufinest.blogspot.com/2005/12/ijjjji-momentum-real-thing.html
Thank me later

what men in general fail to understand is that timing is also something extremely important .

if a woman is not into meeting a new guy for whatever reason ( being in loved , went through a breakup , on her period , depressed , etc ) , you can be the best guy she will ever meet and still nothing will happen most likely

it is like when for example you are the best medic and can treat any disease . Most people will not come to you because they are not sick so they do not need you

same thing with a job , the likely hood of being invited to an interview is far higher when applying to job post , rather than when you are sending an unsolicited cv to them . No matter how amazing you are in whatever you do

What is important is to be the best version of yourself that you can be , and also learn to emulate people that are good in a particular field . In this case you should try to emulate more of what a guy that is good with girls does . Most likely a bing chunk of that is knowing where to go ( which is the biggest skill a guy into pick up has )

 

[thelambofdeth]

There’s something about you that you haven’t yet been able to identify which is turning them off, or at best causing them to feel neutral towards you.
You seem to come off as a bit dour or negative here on the forum. I’m wondering if you are projecting a light, fun vibe to women, or more of a negative one.
Do you come across as having an attitude of being “above” them in value? If not, you need to start. While we men tend to think this kind of attitude will turn women off, just the opposite is true. The trouble is that we’re afraid to risk each “opportunity”, so we play it safe by being “safe” and “nice”.

I try to admonish men to be aloof and self-sustaining socially; To treat each social interaction as light, fun and self-amusing. Negative Nellies never do well with women. Women are looking for fun, light interactions with men who convey superiority.

So I've had friends and people by proxy flat out tell me I come off as aloof to the point of it being a detriment. To the point of seeming haughty or dismissive or that I don't like them. I guess bc of my distant dismeanor and bc of my AA. Instead of seeming passive or weird bc of my height , the way I dress and the way I carry myself I give off the vibe that I'm disinterested or superior.

Now, if you're some guy who can pull of being like playfully dismissive or coyly aloof or something i can see how girls could like that. But it depends on two factors. First I has to be on women in your social circle. Random women at the bar aren't going to notice me not noticing them. They're not going to care that some rando isn't giving them attention. It has to be in proximity women you've at least met before, as those are the times being aloof has paid off for me, anyway. When a chick you're familiar with is used to getting tons of validation for every dude and you don't, it piques her interest.

And the other is you have to be good-looking. I'm a tall, stoic black dude...looking disinterested just makes me look mean af and I already have a rbf. Women aren't to care or notice some guy where there is seeming an extra barrier to break unless he has the look.

Anyway, I don't ar all convey a light, or fun vibe. I don't look depressed or anything but apparently just really disinterested and haughty. But with no lighthearted or playfulness juxtaposed with that. And that's not an act, I think it's just a by product of my social anxiety being perceived a certain way. But acting "superior" hasn't really helped much with.

 

[Bigpapa]

So I've had friends and people by proxy flat out tell me I come off as aloof to the point of it being a detriment. To the point of seeming haughty or dismissive or that I don't like them. I guess bc of my distant dismeanor and bc of my AA. Instead of seeming passive or weird bc of my height , the way I dress and the way I carry myself I give off the vibe that I'm disinterested or superior.

Now, if you're some guy who can pull of being like playfully dismissive or coyly aloof or something i can see how girls could like that. But it depends on two factors. First I has to be on women in your social circle. Random women at the bar aren't going to notice me not noticing them. They're not going to care that some rando isn't giving them attention. It has to be in proximity women you've at least met before, as those are the times being aloof has paid off for me, anyway. When a chick you're familiar with is used to getting tons of validation for every dude and you don't, it piques her interest.

And the other is you have to be good-looking. I'm a tall, stoic black dude...looking disinterested just makes me look mean af and I already have a rbf. Women aren't to care or notice some guy where there is seeming an extra barrier to break unless he has the look.

Anyway, I don't ar all convey a light, or fun vibe. I don't look depressed or anything but apparently just really disinterested and haughty. But with no lighthearted or playfulness juxtaposed with that. And that's not an act, I think it's just a by product of my social anxiety being perceived a certain way. But acting "superior" hasn't really helped much with.

higher smv guys have to be friendlier to look more attainable

being aloof instead of friendly etc only works when you try to pick up a girl who is around your smv or higher

 

[Atom Smasher]

So I've had friends and people by proxy flat out tell me I come off as aloof to the point of it being a detriment. To the point of seeming haughty or dismissive or that I don't like them. I guess bc of my distant dismeanor and bc of my AA. Instead of seeming passive or weird bc of my height , the way I dress and the way I carry myself I give off the vibe that I'm disinterested or superior.

Now, if you're some guy who can pull of being like playfully dismissive or coyly aloof or something i can see how girls could like that. But it depends on two factors. First I has to be on women in your social circle. Random women at the bar aren't going to notice me not noticing them. They're not going to care that some rando isn't giving them attention. It has to be in proximity women you've at least met before, as those are the times being aloof has paid off for me, anyway. When a chick you're familiar with is used to getting tons of validation for every dude and you don't, it piques her interest.

And the other is you have to be good-looking. I'm a tall, stoic black dude...looking disinterested just makes me look mean af and I already have a rbf. Women aren't to care or notice some guy where there is seeming an extra barrier to break unless he has the look.

Anyway, I don't ar all convey a light, or fun vibe. I don't look depressed or anything but apparently just really disinterested and haughty. But with no lighthearted or playfulness juxtaposed with that. And that's not an act, I think it's just a by product of my social anxiety being perceived a certain way. But acting "superior" hasn't really helped much with.

So you’re out of balance then.
The solution is to start to work on lightening up. Start with your daily small-talk with both men and women. People probably tighten up into a defensive stance when you’re around them because of how you project. Daily friendly small-talk is a man’s ticket out of that dynamic. Just a little each day will work wonders.

 

[SW15]

what men in general fail to understand is that timing is also something extremely important .

if a woman is not into meeting a new guy for whatever reason ( being in loved , went through a breakup , on her period , depressed , etc ) , you can be the best guy she will ever meet and still nothing will happen most likely

it is like when for example you are the best medic and can treat any disease . Most people will not come to you because they are not sick so they do not need you

same thing with a job , the likely hood of being invited to an interview is far higher when applying to job post , rather than when you are sending an unsolicited cv to them . No matter how amazing you are in whatever you do

What is important is to be the best version of yourself that you can be , and also learn to emulate people that are good in a particular field . In this case you should try to emulate more of what a guy that is good with girls does . Most likely a bing chunk of that is knowing where to go ( which is the biggest skill a guy into pick up has )

The number 1 reason that the timing doesn't work out is that the woman has a boyfriend or husband and is not looking to add to her penis pipeline. Even women with boyfriends and husbands have orbiters/backup plans for sex/relationships in a lot of cases. Most people are in a relationship at any given point in time.

Being the best version of yourself is always good advice.

 

[thelambofdeth]

higher smv guys have to be friendlier to look more attainable

being aloof instead of friendly etc only works when you try to pick up a girl who is around your smv or higher

I totally agree...but I'm not high smv lol. Yeah if you're some Henry Cavil look alike and aloof women are just going to refrain bc they'd think you're out of their league but I don't have that issue.

 

[Bigpapa]

I totally agree...but I'm not high smv lol. Yeah if you're some Henry Cavil look alike and aloof women are just going to refrain bc they'd think you're out of their league but I don't have that issue.

you said that you are quite tall and have expensive clothes and not that social . I guess that you are doing quite well in life

it is not about if you consider yourself high smv , it is how you are perceived

 

[thelambofdeth]

you said that you are quite tall and have expensive clothes and not that social . I guess that you are doing quite well in life

it is not about if you consider yourself high smv , it is how you are perceived

I can't argue with that...my perception is probably skewed af.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

This succinctly illustrates why some men have a killer success ratio. Why struggle with random cold approaches when the ground is full of handkerchiefs?

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Matt husey? made a video ages ago calling out women. He argued they used to shoot their shot doing what you said. Modern women are brain damaged and so checked out and glued to the phone, they don't unless you are aesthetic crew. I get choosing signals and IOIs but it's not like 2010 or before.

To answer your Q, "why cold approach? " my d won't ck itself. I enjoy the approach invitations and Choosing signals but I love the game and getting girls. I get amped approaching.

I will go even further. I'm so amped about getting girls, I will pull, beat it rotten, &&& go approach more girls between the walk from her bedroom to my car.

I don't disagree with you on the ratio. world class pua has 10% success ratio but wtf is the alternative ? OLD? Just wait? try being pretty like Gen Z &&& just wait???

I get a hard on for approaching. I love the chase. busting nuts is for sport. I'm not looking to play house. I'm not a house husband. I don't pod about hypergamy &&& no receipts.

If mods wouldn't ban me, I'd charge up my troll cannon, &&& my avi would be receipts. Some hilarious pic pulling some baddie. flex so hard I'd wreck my nice shirt lulz!

^^^ would separate the men from the boys.



Trolling as a hobby. Stealing 2nd after 2nd just cause I know I can.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Especially fat single mommies ...

Any of you who have been on a long drought, you better not turn down fat pvssy! Take what you can get until you can get what you want.

 

[Velasco]

I think it's just a by product of my social anxiety being perceived a certain way. But acting "superior" hasn't really helped much with

@thelambofdeth

Take a look at this post I made a couple years ago (read especially the part where I'm talking about the user SexNotValidation), to go along with the previous post I linked to you on 'momentum':

Truth about Pre-Opening

Just like I did in my previous post I'm gonna pull up several quotes before typing anything (besides this intro....aha) What is stopping me from talking to the girls who come and stand besides me? ive asked myself this question many times and im not sure. sometimes the girls who do this will...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[MatureDJ]

Any of you who have been on a long drought, you better not turn down fat pvssy! Take what you can get until you can get what you want.

It might take the edge off at first, but the shame lasts forever.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It might take the edge off at first, but the shame lasts forever.

That's fine but it'll get some stink on you and your pheremones flowing to attract other babes.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

If you have a decent income, looks, fitness, and social calibration, it is very easy and common to get choosing signals from women.

It's literally that simple .

But nobody wants to do that because it takes work and patience

 

[BackInTheGame78]

IMO anytime a woman you don't know randomly strikes up a Convo with you she is giving you a green light to make a move.

Many guys don't realize this but it probably happens more often than you think.

 

[svencandy]

IMO anytime a woman you don't know randomly strikes up a Convo with you she is giving you a green light to make a move.

Many guys don't realize this but it probably happens more often than you think.

Facts.

To the guy with all the nice clothes and height...
I get around in Tommy Hilfiger t shirts that fit me well.
They fit me well because I train. KB swings, snatches, presses and pull ups, build good shoulder and tight torso.

Been rocking the same HM jeans since 2016, and same Sorrel boots since 2017.

Fashion comes from accentuating your natural body through well fitting clothes, not the stamp.

As others said, need to become less pessimistic.

That can be a tough road, but recommend reading transurfing reality, tuning out off all media, and learning how to train your body with kettle bells.

Visiting legit Thai massages, happy ending ones and prossies to help you lighten up with some female contact will do wonders

Women can smell desperation, and like them we have an after flow that is attractive.

 

[thelambofdeth]

Facts.

To the guy with all the nice clothes and height...
I get around in Tommy Hilfiger t shirts that fit me well.
They fit me well because I train. KB swings, snatches, presses and pull ups, build good shoulder and tight torso.

Been rocking the same HM jeans since 2016, and same Sorrel boots since 2017.

Fashion comes from accentuating your natural body through well fitting clothes, not the stamp.

As others said, need to become less pessimistic.

That can be a tough road, but recommend reading transurfing reality, tuning out off all media, and learning how to train your body with kettle bells.

Visiting legit Thai massages, happy ending ones and prossies to help you lighten up with some female contact will do wonders

Women can smell desperation, and like them we have an after flow that is attractive.

I don't wear high fashion to impress anyone or gain attention. I don't wear loud Gucci and LV stuff where it's obvious it's expensive to peacock and fish for compliments. I wear high fashion because I like it. It's a legitimate interest. I had chit self-esteem when I was younger and dressing well helped with that, and it just became a total hobby as I got older.

It's high fashion...I know how it's supposed to fit lol. All of my stuff is very fitted and accentuates my frame. I'm on the lankier side, but I have broad should and I know what fits me and how to coordinate. Literally every time I go out at least one person has to just top and tell me I look like Lenny Kravitz or how cool my outfit is. The only issue is the only real times a woman does that, she's literally right there with her bf lol.

I do struggle with the pessimism though, and that is probably holding me back a LOT.