Roosh

[eli77]

Can someone please tell me about this guy misunderstood like Peterson or just another douche bag

 

[RangerMIke]

He makes a living telling people what they want to hear. Lot's of people do this.

The article posted above... well... it is true that banks control a lot of sh1t. But it isn't because the banks are intrinsically evil it's just that people and governments are way too willing to take on debt.

If consumers stopped borrowing to maintain a lifestyle they really can not afford, and people stopped putting people in office that refused to balance government budgets... banks would have no power at all.

 

[SW15]

Roosh was a teenage loser/incel in high school and college from the Washington DC area. He got a Microbiology degree in the early 2000s. Around his senior year of college or first year out of college, he began reading pickup articles on the internet and starting applying them to his own life. His seduction game improved and it improved to the point that he became a pickup thought leader. In 2007, he quit his Microbiologist job to write "Bang", his own seduction manual. From 2007-2019, he was a digital nomad in South America and Europe, banging women and writing about banging women. Around the mid-2010s, while in Poland where he had been living for a while, he started writing about the intersection of culture and game. His younger sister also died from breast cancer during this time. He ended up renouncing pickup/fornication and converting to Christianity.

 

[eli77]

He makes a living telling people what they want to hear. Lot's of people do this.

The article posted above... well... it is true that banks control a lot of sh1t. But it isn't because the banks are intrinsically evil it's just that people and governments are way too willing to take on debt.

If consumers stopped borrowing to maintain a lifestyle they really can not afford, and people stopped putting people in office that refused to balance government budgets... banks would have no power at all.

In that case I highly recommend confessions of an economic Hitman self published years ago

 

[SW15]

I have 1 Roosh book. Day Bang. Its pretty good

Day Bang was the book that taught me day game. I had been interested in the idea of day game as far back as the mid-2000s. I had heard about how meeting women at yoga classes was a thing. Day Bang came out in 2011 and I got it soon after. I then transitioned to being a primarily day game based on "Day Bang". I thought "Day Bang" was better than "Bang".

 

[nicksaiz65]

Ah, Roosh. Super informative books, and very entertaining to read too. Love the way he breaks things down.

Bang and Day Bang are both great.

Game is a great read too, it’s very holistic.

 

[SW15]

It was good for its time, but the market has changed now. I think part of the reason Roosh exited Game is that his methods weren’t effective in the changing market, and Roosh’s ultimate goal was a girlfriend. Roosh basically played numbers and didn’t do much by way of actual Game - his attraction and Game methods were quite rudimentary by today’s standards. Roosh’s main method that was effective was playing numbers and exposing himself to huge amounts of women, which in the early to late 00’s was all you really needed to do.

This was a thoughtful response.

"Bang" came out in 2007 and "Day Bang" was released in 2011. I read both not long after "Day Bang" was released.

I think you're right that changes in the market had an effect upon Roosh's seduction style published in those book. I think even Roosh acknowledged that, which is why he did write "Game" in 2018. 2018's "Game" was considered to be the update. I didn't find "Game" as helpful as "Bang" and "Day Bang", but by 2018, I had been in game longer and had read books and game blogs for years.

Roosh did mention a longer term girlfriend in Poland. He exited the seduction game due to the trauma of his sister's death from breast cancer and the breakup of that longer term relationship in Poland. That trauma led to the Christianity conversion.

I've never thought seduction was a numbers game. It's not a numbers game if you're doing the wrong things. In the 2000s, he needed some skill to make his exposure to lots of women worthwhile if that was his 2000s era game.

9 Ways Game Has Changed From 2001 To 2018 – Roosh Valizadeh

A lot of men ask me what it was like to run game on American women over 15 years ago. While I don't automatically take the nostalgic view that everything in the past was better than today, if you knew how to cold approach in 2001, you received significantly higher results than from the same effort i

www.rooshv.com

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Can someone please tell me about this guy misunderstood like Peterson or just another douche bag

Found god. Wants a wife.

A lot if dorks will talk **** on him but rooshv has more receipts. Peterson is awesome but flawed like every other man. He cannot see what an awful train wreck daddy's little girl is. Contrary to the manosphere I enjoy his work. It just has limits. He's blue pill. Even there he's got a body of work and more receipts then your red pill boomer with their mega horn and rants.

 

[RangerMIke]

That’s kinda like blaming the drug addict and letting the dealer off. That’s not how police deal with those matters. The dealer typically gets a much harsher penalty.

Stop being a Ranger Ho. Central debt-based Banking is evil. Anyone with even a tiny bit of morality can see that.

You can't have a flood without rain.

All I am saying is that banks would not be what they are if people and governments were fiscally prudent. Do banks take advantage of people? Yep.... Are people willing to be used? Yep again.

Our nation has had the same fiscal and monetary policy since Richard Nixon... you heard me right... Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump, and Biden.... have all had the same fiscal and monetary policy. If you don't think this is true, then you just need to go educate yourself.

So why did we do this? Simple, every other free market country in the world was doing this and if we had not adopted a Central Banking system, we would have been placed at a significant disadvantage in world trade. If we abandoned our fiscal and monetary system, we would have a depression the likes of which the Great Depression would be a holiday stroll.

It took us 50 years to get to where we are now, and it will take another 50 years to back out of this... but this will not happen unless we abandon short term thinking, so it's not going to happen.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

This was a thoughtful response.

"Bang" came out in 2007 and "Day Bang" was released in 2011. I read both not long after "Day Bang" was released.

I think you're right that changes in the market had an effect upon Roosh's seduction style published in those book. I think even Roosh acknowledged that, which is why he did write "Game" in 2018. 2018's "Game" was considered to be the update. I didn't find "Game" as helpful as "Bang" and "Day Bang", but by 2018, I had been in game longer and had read books and game blogs for years.

Roosh did mention a longer term girlfriend in Poland. He exited the seduction game due to the trauma of his sister's death from breast cancer and the breakup of that longer term relationship in Poland. That trauma led to the Christianity conversion.

I've never thought seduction was a numbers game. It's not a numbers game if you're doing the wrong things. In the 2000s, he needed some skill to make his exposure to lots of women worthwhile if that was his 2000s era game.

9 Ways Game Has Changed From 2001 To 2018 – Roosh Valizadeh

A lot of men ask me what it was like to run game on American women over 15 years ago. While I don't automatically take the nostalgic view that everything in the past was better than today, if you knew how to cold approach in 2001, you received significantly higher results than from the same effort i

www.rooshv.com

Interesting? I always interpret game as a numbers game and acquiring compliance but calibrated of course. Then again it would correspond with your sniper style approach.

I wouldn't say he was world class. I value what he put in. If finding god and acquiring a wife is his next stage of dev who gives a f. F any of the dorks trolling him. It's hilarious too seeing the guys who troll him but of course no receipts. Tate went off on a rant about some of these guys. No shocker why we never see receipts. Nothing to brag about lulz.

Tbh I thought the god shtick was trolling but I'm convinced you accurately nailed the conversion.

I hope he finds what he's searching for. He's about example of going scorched earth. There's no return to corporate and a normal life now.

Strange dude. Same as jmulv the ones they call the fat kid in Brazil. Odd dude. Booted out of rsd. Former Tyler intern. He's like NBA height. Had a pod bragging about pulling lady boys lulz. Time stamped here somewhere. Sadly he has more receipts then the entire rp space.

I think theirs a lot of insanity in pickup and the manosphere. People need to exercise common sense. If no receipts did not happen. Even with receipts verb your gurus wisely. I think less than 1% of YouTube are doing anything in the ladies department contrary to Game.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

You can't have a flood without rain.

All I am saying is that banks would not be what they are if people and governments were fiscally prudent. Do banks take advantage of people? Yep.... Are people willing to be used? Yep again.

Our nation has had the same fiscal and monetary policy since Richard Nixon... you heard me right... Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump, and Biden.... have all had the same fiscal and monetary policy. If you don't think this is true, then you just need to go educate yourself.

So why did we do this? Simple, every other free market country in the world was doing this and if we had not adopted a Central Banking system, we would have been placed at a significant disadvantage in world trade. If we abandoned our fiscal and monetary system, we would have a depression the likes of which the Great Depression would be a holiday stroll.

It took us 50 years to get to where we are now, and it will take another 50 years to back out of this... but this will not happen unless we abandon short term thinking, so it's not going to happen.

 

[SW15]

rooshv has more receipts.

That’s good. He was a decent advisor.

Interesting? I always interpret game as a numbers game and acquiring compliance but calibrated of course. Then again it would correspond with your sniper style approach.

There's no return to corporate and a normal life now.

I think theirs a lot of insanity in pickup and the manosphere. People need to exercise common sense. If no receipts did not happen. Even with receipts verb your gurus wisely. I think less than 1% of YouTube are doing anything in the ladies department contrary to Game.

Quantity of approaches matter if you have shiit game. I knew an overweight Indian-American engineer guy who would get drunk & hit on a bunch of yuppie white women. Obviously, that didn’t work & he was incel. Plenty of Indian men spam approach white women in large cities. It doesn’t end well.

I’m not going to do a bunch of approaches that lead to rejections. I can’t handle it. So I’m more selective about who I approach & put myself in a better position to have meaningful approaches.

Roosh torched his corporate career when he quit his Microbiologist job after “Bang” published in 2007.

 

[behimo]

This part of the article made me laugh because it's so true;

9. Sex was more vanilla

I don’t remember having much porn star quality sex until the later half of the 2000’s. Most girls acted natural in bed and made basic noises and movements that were sufficient enough for me, a man who only needs a vagina attached to a normal body and pretty face to feel sexual pleasure.

Today, girls go overboard in trying to prove how sexy and dirty they are. Instead of giving me pleasure, I feel like I’m on a porno set where a fat Jewish man will yell “Cut!” any second. Their porno style takes me out of the moment and engages my logical brain into thinking why she’s acting in such a way with a man she has only known for a few hours. Maybe this girl can make me feel good, but only in a technical way.

 

[eli77]

Roosh was a teenage loser/incel in high school and college from the Washington DC area. He got a Microbiology degree in the early 2000s. Around his senior year of college or first year out of college, he began reading pickup articles on the internet and starting applying them to his own life. His seduction game improved and it improved to the point that he became a pickup thought leader. In 2007, he quit his Microbiologist job to write "Bang", his own seduction manual. From 2007-2019, he was a digital nomad in South America and Europe, banging women and writing about banging women. Around the mid-2010s, while in Poland where he had been living for a while, he started writing about the intersection of culture and game. His younger sister also died from breast cancer during this time. He ended up renouncing pickup/fornication and converting to Christianity.

Thanks for the input

Found god. Wants a wife.

A lot if dorks will talk **** on him but rooshv has more receipts. Peterson is awesome but flawed like every other man. He cannot see what an awful train wreck daddy's little girl is. Contrary to the manosphere I enjoy his work. It just has limits. He's blue pill. Even there he's got a body of work and more receipts then your red pill boomer with their mega horn and rants.

love peterson and his daughter is gorgeous

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Game is a good book.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

That’s good. He was a decent advisor.

I prefer mystery, rsd, London model etc but I appreciate the emphasis rooshv made on VOLUME. For every rp pod that's hours, 0 approaches. 0 receipts.

Personally prefer that kid prankster. The video you linked I found million times more value then hypergamy rants or a new dunk on single mommy pod.

I miss the infield and receipts. Can say it separates the men from the boys. The YouTube apocalypse killed a lot of it.

Quantity of approaches matter if you have shiit game. I knew an overweight Indian-American engineer guy who would get drunk & hit on a bunch of yuppie white women. Obviously, that didn’t work & he was incel. Plenty of Indian men spam approach white women in large cities. It doesn’t end well.

Agreed. I think it needs to be calibrated. There has to be a level of competence. There's something to be said of volume. While pua tends to be blue pill, there's virtually 0 volume in red pill.

i’m not going to do a bunch of approaches that lead to rejections. I can’t handle it. So I’m more selective about who I approach & put myself in a better position to have meaningful approaches.

After eons of pickup I still can. More than likely now I sniper approach. My time is allocated to biz and other things we discussed privately. The point where I really agree is that time is finite. I'm not a teen or at frat boy. Women simply aren't worth the time nor the effort. Sniper approach is much more time effective especially after acquiring competence in Game.

Roosh torched his corporate career when he quit his Microbiologist job after “Bang” published in 2007.

I respect him going out on his shield. F anybody trolling him with third busted wife or gf. Rooshv went the f out on his shield. For better or worse.