I really dont think looks matter

[devilkingx2]

I think a guy would be better off with good looks and average game than average looks and good game. But both of those guys would be killing it. You're only really screwed if you're far below average in something important like looks or game.

The only thing that matters is attraction, there's lots of ways to create attraction but looks money status is the easiest (but acquiring game is way easier than LMS unless you were born with it)

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

 

[Bigpapa]

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

it can also be a bias on not that good looking guys having a higher presence in the OLD environment

it can also be a bias that a woman is actually cute from starting 7 and upwards , and women more or less so the same thing like guys . Either cute either nothing

no guy wants to sleep with a bellow 5 woman , and most likely it can be the same for a woman when it comes to guys

 

[Machine10033]

Looks matter.... in my experience it gets you much more slack when dealing with a female and also gets you in the door. If your ugly.... you have a massive uphill battle to climb. Unless your a drug dealer or extremely wealthy.

 

[SW15]

Looks matter.... in my experience it gets you much more slack when dealing with a female and also gets you in the door. If your ugly.... you have a massive uphill battle to climb. Unless your a drug dealer or extremely wealthy.

Being a drug dealer is a good way to get vagina. A lot of things about that occupation produce vaginal tingles. It's inherently dangerous and doesn't follow the rules. Those are things that get women excited. By being a drug dealer, you're announcing to women that you are not some docile beta male. Additionally, if you are a higher end dealer, you might be driving around the city in an awesome car like a BMW or a Porsche. Brands associated with conspicuous consumption are always good for attracting the poontang.

Wealth without drug dealing is good too. You must flaunt it. A BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Porsche are good places to start with flaunting. A yacht can help too but a yacht or a BMW can be owned by betas. If you're rich enough, you can overcome some beta tendencies. It depends on how rich you are and how beta you are.

Good looks always help. I recommend being 6'0'+ and being muscular/fit to some degree.

I think a guy would be better off with good looks and average game than average looks and good game. But both of those guys would be killing it. You're only really screwed if you're far below average in something important like looks or game.

The only thing that matters is attraction, there's lots of ways to create attraction but looks money status is the easiest (but acquiring game is way easier than LMS unless you were born with it)

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

An average looking man with average game will be an Average Frustrated Chump (AFC) struggling to get laid or at the mercy of the whims of a girlfriend for his vagina.

Looks Money Status will get a man laid. Look good and have money and you're ahead.

Women's standards have gotten higher in the last 20 years. A 25-30 year old woman today has higher standards for everything than a 25-30 year old did in 2002.

 

[oc16]

I think a guy would be better off with good looks and average game than average looks and good game. But both of those guys would be killing it. You're only really screwed if you're far below average in something important like looks or game.

The only thing that matters is attraction, there's lots of ways to create attraction but looks money status is the easiest (but acquiring game is way easier than LMS unless you were born with it)

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

True, in their eyes only men who looked like Rob Lowe or Tom Brady would be considered attractive. How many men look like that? 1 in a 100?

 

[oc16]

Being a drug dealer is a good way to get vagina. A lot of things about that occupation produce vaginal tingles. It's inherently dangerous and doesn't follow the rules. Those are things that get women excited. By being a drug dealer, you're announcing to women that you are not some docile beta male. Additionally, if you are a higher end dealer, you might be driving around the city in an awesome car like a BMW or a Porsche. Brands associated with conspicuous consumption are always good for attracting the poontang.

Wealth without drug dealing is good too. You must flaunt it. A BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Porsche are good places to start with flaunting. A yacht can help too but a yacht or a BMW can be owned by betas. If you're rich enough, you can overcome some beta tendencies. It depends on how rich you are and how beta you are.

Good looks always help. I recommend being 6'0'+ and being muscular/fit to some degree.



An average looking man with average game will be an Average Frustrated Chump (AFC) struggling to get laid or at the mercy of the whims of a girlfriend for his vagina.

Looks Money Status will get a man laid. Look good and have money and you're ahead.

Women's standards have gotten higher in the last 20 years. A 25-30 year old woman today has higher standards for everything than a 25-30 year old did in 2002.

Being a drug dealer also risks serious prison time and you are selling your soul to the devil.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Being a drug dealer also risks serious prison time and you are selling your soul to the devil.

Yeah man that's not worth it for poon alone. Going to prison is literally one the worst thing that can happen to a man. Drug dealers usually get very long sentences.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

How did you meet these hot girls?

From my work.

 

[corrector]

From my work.

You are working at a factory and you are meeting hot girls who are also working in the factory. So you approached your co-workers working at your same factory. When you say they were "Into you" does that mean you had nice chats with them or did you actually go out and "do business" with them (ie more than one of them)? This could actually be a very interesting post. Most people warn others not to dip into company ink since if anything really goes side-ways it can make the work environment toxic (gossip goes around very fast) and it could be skating on thin ice if anyone starts making sexual harassment complaints. Whatever you are doing here sounds very risky.

 

[DonJuanjr]

You are working at a factory and you are meeting hot girls who are also working in the factory.

This is what makes it suspect. Hot girls don't work at factories. Older, fat, ugly, or some combination of the three are what work at factories. I recall two that were 6.5s at best that worked in factories.

 

[biggoal]

True, in their eyes only men who looked like Rob Lowe or Tom Brady would be considered attractive. How many men look like that? 1 in a 100?

Tom Brady didn't look not close to nearly as good when he first entered the nfl. He's in better shape now and it's obvious he had some cosmetic work done over the years because his face looks a lot better. Everyone knows it. Just google it.

Of course being a nfl quarterback getting plastic surgery kinda silly. Doesnt matter what you look like you'll have women all over you if you're starting qb.

 

[oc16]

Tom Brady didn't look not close to nearly as good when he first entered the nfl. He's in better shape now and it's obvious he had some cosmetic work done over the years because his face looks a lot better. Everyone knows it. Just google it.

Of course being a nfl quarterback getting plastic surgery kinda silly. Doesnt matter what you look like you'll have women all over you if you're starting qb.

Tom is my age (almost 45) and looks like he is 30

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I really dont think looks matter

Think again...

Looks matter..

Just watch from 02:59 to 03:12 This is why you should take care of yourself and hit the gym. :cool:

www.sosuave.net

Its does matter, a lot.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

They matter but they’re not the end all be all for men

Well yeah money and high social status can make up for it (your lack of looks) to a certain degree, in the sense she will pick you for stability and security; but with that said it doesn't mean she will fvck you. With that I mean to properly fvck you and leave your balls dry for days.

You will probably get the star fish beta buck provider position while she will desire the hot pool guy and fyck him properly because his body turns her on.

Once must remember that women does put men into two different categories or schematics if you will, based on her feelings and the evolution of the female imperative of survival/sexual reproduction:
1.) The hot bad boi guy that she craves for and she will go over mountains to have sex with.
2.) The safe guy that can provide and raise the family but is boring to her and doesn't stir up any greater emotions within her.

As many of us know here on the SS community; it is very rare that a guy hold both traits and properties from both categories which is why it is very common that girls first go for number one (and get knocked up with the good DNA), during their hoe phase (Early 20ties to late 27-28 yrs of age) and then around 28-30 start to look for number two which is Mr. stable nice guy to provide for her child from Mr. hot guy and start saying that she doesn't want to do ONS anymore and is looking for a serious relationship I.E: she enters the so called "The epiphany phase".

Women know this (either on conscious or sub-conscious level), so this is why they from the side of evolution attempt to extract the best properties from these two types of men; basically trying to eat the whole cake and keep it on the same time.

 

[Grounded eagle]

Well yeah money and high social status can make up for it (your lack of looks) to a certain degree, in the sense she will pick you for stability and security; but with that said it doesn't mean she will fvck you. With that I mean to properly fvck you and leave your balls dry for days.

You will probably get the star fish beta buck provider position while she will desire the hot pool guy and fyck him properly because his body turns her on.

Once must remember that women does put men into two different categories or schematics if you will, based on her feelings and the evolution of the female imperative of survival/sexual reproduction:
1.) The hot bad boi guy that she craves for and she will go over mountains to have sex with.
2.) The safe guy that can provide and raise the family but is boring to her and doesn't stir up any greater emotions within her.

As many of us know here on the SS community; it is very rare that a guy hold both traits and properties from both categories which is why it is very common that girls first go for number one (and get knocked up with the good DNA), during their hoe phase (Early 20ties to late 27-28 yrs of age) and then around 28-30 start to look for number two which is Mr. stable nice guy to provide for her child from Mr. hot guy and start saying that she doesn't want to do ONS anymore and is looking for a serious relationship I.E: she enters the so called "The epiphany phase".

Women know this (either on conscious or sub-conscious level), so this is why they from the side of evolution attempt to extract the best properties from these two types of men; basically trying to eat the whole cake and keep it on the same time.

Yes,alpha fux,beta bux.But you forget that being alpha doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re the most physically attractive option a woman has.Just like the fact that not all wealthy,resource laden men are beta.

Physical attractiveness helps garner attention and preselection,but women select for more than just that.And time and time again,it’s been observed that traits such as confidence,charm,social skills,social status and having a generally fun personality and demeanour are what win the day. You could add wealth to that list.See what I’m getting at?

The argument you’ve made could be made for any trait that women select for.The ultimate end all be all for men is Masculinity.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

confidence, charm, social skills, social status and having a generally fun personality

Those are all traits of alphas.
Especially natural confidence and social skills is linked to this type of profile. Which why is uglier guys do not have there traits (of a strong self confidence), as they are uncertain of themselves and this suffer of this lack self image. (which automatically makes them beta).

 

[Grounded eagle]

Those are all traits of alphas.
Especially natural confidence and social skills is linked to this type of profile. Which why is uglier guys do not have there traits (of a strong self confidence), as they are uncertain of themselves and this suffer of this lack self image. (which automatically makes them beta).

Let’s get one thing straight,it’s not like there’s only two extremes as far as looks are concerned,attractive and ugly.There’s levels of attractiveness,there’s average, and there’s ugly.An average looking guy who has charm and confidence will clean up more than an attractive guy who’s a social klutz.I’ve even seen guys who are one zit away from ugly pull it off.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Let’s get one thing straight,it’s not like there’s only two extremes as far as looks are concerned,attractive and ugly.There’s levels of attractiveness,there’s average, and there’s ugly.An average looking guy who has charm and confidence will clean up more than an attractive guy who’s a social klutz.I’ve even seen guys who are one zit away from ugly pull it off.

Women will still any day given go for the hot guy to be fvcked properly by, even if his social skills are horrible like Jeremy Meeks below over the ugly guy, (or less good looking if you will):

For long term relationship yes; she will look for the guy with good social skills, but for the ONS not so much so. Plus you have the factor of chicks love this obsessed idea of "I can fix him".

 

[Grounded eagle]

Women will still go for the hot guy to be fvcked properly even if his social skills are horrible like Jeremy Meeks below over the ugly guy:

For long term relationship yes , she will look for the guy with good social skills, but for the ONS not so much so.

Not only is he attractive to women but he is also a model,which implies some level of wealth and status.I’d also wager that he’s got confidence.

So you see,his looks might’ve helped,but at the end of the day that’s not the only trait he’s got that women select for.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Not only is he attractive to women but he is also a model

He wasn't a model at all. That first happened much later.

He got caught doing some retarded crime which was weapon related and somehow his mugshot got leaked and women from all over the world started to drool over him. Back then he was a sore loser with zero future but jail..

Story of Jeremy Meeks, a convict turned model: Now, That is one hell of a lucky break!

Jeremy Meek’s whole life got turned around after his “Sexy” mugshot went viral. Deyasini Das Jeremy Meeks, an unfortunate soul, born in a family of criminals never dreamt about cr…

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But half of the female world population wanted to fvck him only based on only his looks. That he was a sore fvcking loser and a society outcast and that didn't matter at all to the ladies.