SexManiac
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Lol, That is great! At least these creepy guys here can finally get to the point of the post, God!! Why is so Difficult!!!LolThanks but I'm female, read the first sentence again.
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Velasco
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Interesting post @SexManiac
Let me see if I can add some thoughts to this for good discussion. Rather than just dismiss what you say
So for the cheating angle I have written this before:
And for the keeping her for as long as you want I have written this before:
This is 100% achievable for the poor man that wants to be with a rich or girl on her way to being wealthy, girl. That being said, I am friends with a guy at my work who is married to (and has a kid with) a chick that makes a 6 figure salary. But his life is extremely stressful. Would not want to trade my position for his. As he is forced into retirement (no longer a player/plays the field).
Let me see if I can add some thoughts to this for good discussion. Rather than just dismiss what you say
Sacrifice her "life". You imply she is already in good standing (rich) or on her way towards reaching that status (studying at elite university for degree in high status job) she will not downgrade to be with you. What you say in my experience so far is true. In that she will she will probably not want to spend the rest of her life with me, especially in the stage of life I currently find myself in (poor) but we can do with her what we really want. We do not want her to be cheating on us. And we want to prolonged the relationship for as long as we are getting good feelings from it. From this perspective, you can get her until she no longer adds to our life.
So for the cheating angle I have written this before:
And for the keeping her for as long as you want I have written this before:
This is 100% achievable for the poor man that wants to be with a rich or girl on her way to being wealthy, girl. That being said, I am friends with a guy at my work who is married to (and has a kid with) a chick that makes a 6 figure salary. But his life is extremely stressful. Would not want to trade my position for his. As he is forced into retirement (no longer a player/plays the field).
"Confidence" is something that falls under Drugs in my LED formula
It does not lol. I have a lot of free time while my friend, who works at one of the biggest corporations in the world (aka very wealthy), has very limited free time. Lots of girls who pursue high status jobs actually are super busy all the time (aka not a lot of free time to go on dates).
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Traditional women stuck with their man more in the past, especially when Christian values were high. Affairs was really only a small thing, but the sexual revolution kinda turned everything on its head and made women liberated to think they can just **** anyone they want. In reality, I am sure most women want a monogamous relationship and a normal life [the amount of times Ive seen women get jealous of seeing a guy she was ****ing with another woman]. Feminism really ****ed up not only men, but especially the women. And since most of us should be aware about how men spread their seeds vs women care for safety, it makes sense that men are the ones who should be cheating more, not women.
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OP ain't lookin to have a discussion with anyone. He came here tryna flex on the brothas.
@SexManiac - you're not special. you're quite wrong with much of what you said. You ain't about to get a book deal. People here ain't about to start DMing you for expert advice. If I were you, I'd tuck my tail between my legs, try to develop an original thought, then maybe somewhere down the line, you'll be able to make friends. 'Cause this sh!t here homie...this was atrocious.
@SexManiac - you're not special. you're quite wrong with much of what you said. You ain't about to get a book deal. People here ain't about to start DMing you for expert advice. If I were you, I'd tuck my tail between my legs, try to develop an original thought, then maybe somewhere down the line, you'll be able to make friends. 'Cause this sh!t here homie...this was atrocious.
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Uh no. Feminism is the reason these girls are NOT interested in a monogamous relationship/don't want (or want to delay having them) kids. You should all being taking advantage of this epic self own but here y'all are complaining about it
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You fail to realize that feminism is just a sh*ttest on a global scale. Women's actions all point to them wanting a monogamous traditional lifestyle. Just because they are being allowed to do what they want doesnt mean they are happy doing it. There's a reason women are angrier than ever versus being far more compliant and happier back when we had traditional values. When a woman finds the top guy, she always tries to nail him down to her only. Always.
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Yes. Which is why she won't cheat (actually BE non-monogamous, despite her saying she doesn't want to be tied down to one guy) while you do (and she's cool with it (because she said "she doesn't do monogamy") (until she does care (aka feelings) at which point you don't be in her face about it)). Do you not see the self-own?
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Let's back up here, cause it seems there's something being missed here.
In clarification of what I am saying: women don't like cheating in general. They like having one man instead of casual sex partners. Feminism has lied that they should do this but obviously it was not something women enjoyed or wanted.
Initial attraction is based on your fundamentals ( looks , style , walk , etc etc )
then the hooking happens based on your communication skills
and Sex happens based on your ability to move along different steps of the courtship process
like I said , money is important but not at the level that you are implying
money is mainly important when it comes to logistics , and has nothing to do with how you are perceived by women in the vast majority of cases
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I agree with this OP.
Women who come from a rich family , or are having a good career are extremely annoying and not pleasant to spend time with , in most cases at least .
the ones coming from rich families are extremely spoiled , and will make a lot of drama for very random stupid things
the ones making their own money , they are very masculine and stubborn . And even if you are right and she learns a new thing , she will still hate you for it . This happens because they emulate in their private life the corporate life that they live , which is extremely toxic for everyone working in that environment
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I think you just like stirring up needless debate.
SexManiac
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What does looks in a man means?
What does Style in a man means?
What does fashion in a man means?
Don't you need money to have a good Style?
Don't you need to have money to look good?
What kind of clothes are more expensive?
What does looking NEW and elegant means?
What type of persons can wear expensive clothes, new clothes and stylish?
What type of person can have a lifestyle who allow them to go out and Dayagme very frequently or NightGame frequently and have a lot of Fun?
What type of person can travel a lot and create a lot of DHVs stories to hook girls in conversation?
What type of person can have the money for logistics as you say?
What type of person can have their own apartment to make the girl comfortable without the distractions of living in your mom basement?
But I can go even deeper about how money affects your subcomunucation, your vibe, your tonality
How is your subcommunication affected if you don't have the money to be able to look New and elegant?
You can tell me anything involved in getting attraction and I can show you how is related to Money.
Self seems get ****ed up when you are hopless
Confidence get ****ed up when you are hopless
What else? Man Everything
If you wanna learn Martial Arts to improve your confidence in the area of fighting skills, you get the best class when you pay more money.
If you wanna have a better PUA coaching you have to have more money to pay more.
If you wanna have millions of Friends, you can have it if you have money.
Money buy everything except Death.
Look how a man would walk if he doesn't have money
Is this an attractive walk? dragging the feet?
Is this good fundamentals?
Does this man have a good vibe?
Now look this other man with money enough to feel awesome
What about this one?
Does this man seem to have money? Obviously. Miles away
Does this man look worried about something?
How these two men would speak? You can guess
I bet the second man would speak with strong tonality, non seeking validation, loud and confident and Grounded, enthusiastically, happy, with no worries. Aren't these the fundamentals you are talking about to Spike attraction in women?
How the second man would speak? Depressed, hopless, with fear of rejection, fear of failing even more. Won't do good eye contact, his tonality would be weak, rapport seeking, etc.
Which one of these 2 men a woman will chase
Don't you require money to live as the man of the right side?
Do you think the man from the left side wouldn't like to look as the man from the right side?.
Increase your SMV requieres money and a lot.
To buy a great fragrance you need money
To hire a good fitness personal trainer you have to pay money and the more you pay the best quality personal you can hire.
To build muscle and get a beach body you have to buy a lot of performance products, etc etc etc.
Funny thing is that this reply was you agreeing with me , LOL
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an Calvin Klein suit is like 300 euros in europe .
an armani one is like 1.2k
or you can have a tailored one made , which again is a couple hundred euros
all 3 options will be good Quality suits
if you buy them from an outlet you can get them at half price
The same goes for other styles
basically , you can buy expensive clothes at affordable prices if you really want to
If you can not afford a couple hundred euros once for something important to you , then
you have bigger problems than women
in that comment I was saying that 100k per year is not enough to rely on money to get laid in a city like New York , which is the most expensive city in the world
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SexManiac
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Style is just one element. What about having a job that allow you to travel and create good DHVs stories? What about the money to get fit?
But anyways I have seen that you agree with me more than I thought LOL
Just Read what you wrote here. This was you
SexManiac
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If I had to summarize the post to one sentence would be these sentence
All women are Gold Digger
All women are Gold Digger
so ?
it was about rich men complaining that do not get laid , and I was referring that they can get gold digger in The worst case scenario if they were indeed rich . As most rich people do
but not all women are gold diggers . For most women being normal financially is ok , as long as you have other traits that make you sexy ( nice personality , nice style , not being ugly etc )
I will not continue this discussion with you , as for some reason you are very emotional about the money aspect and just looking for someone to agree with you
but clearly it is limiting belief , as what you are saying does not make any sense as you are an extremist in this regards
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I’d bet I can pull more tail in my scrubs after a 12 hour shift than the OP can in an Armani suit.
None of the things listed (which the OP thinks are the only keys to being attractive) require a lot of money.
Yes, money makes things easier to do, but earning a middle class salary can give you everything listed.
OP, what country do you live in? You’re clearly not a native English speaker. Are you from Latin America? (You said “chica” in one of your posts). If so or if you’re from a developing nation where there isn’t a solid middle class being wealthy will certainly get you access to more women, but the way I see it it’s akin to p4p. It’s a solid strategy for men who are otherwise physically attractive.
None of the things listed (which the OP thinks are the only keys to being attractive) require a lot of money.
Yes, money makes things easier to do, but earning a middle class salary can give you everything listed.
OP, what country do you live in? You’re clearly not a native English speaker. Are you from Latin America? (You said “chica” in one of your posts). If so or if you’re from a developing nation where there isn’t a solid middle class being wealthy will certainly get you access to more women, but the way I see it it’s akin to p4p. It’s a solid strategy for men who are otherwise physically attractive.
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SexManiac
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Yeah, this is almost done here.
I don't want to discuss with you or anyone either. Mostly because whatever you say won't change my mind. I am smart as **** and I know what is the truth about women. I know what women want. I know their psychology. Lol
I just want to let you know that you contradict yourself arguing with me about this in this post while telling another thing in other posts, Lol that is funny.
Here is my belief: "All women are gold digger, the same way they all are sluts"
Here is your believe in this post: "Not all women are gold digger"
Here is your belief in another post: "Never really met a really rich person (having at least a premium lifestyle) to complain that women do not want to sleep with them" <-- man this put you in a spot --> This implies that you believe that women do not reject the sex request of rich men. Lol which also implies that most women are gold diggers. See how you contradict yourself
Lol have a good day man
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SexManiac
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Lol I have never said You can Not get and Pull women without money.
BUT
Competing against a Rich Man, your chances to success decrease exponentially. Specially if that rich man is me, Lol.
Just have in mind that "All women are Gold Diggers", that is the simplest way I can summarize my post for you.
DAMN!. I ever thought I could have found a better way to deliver my message in the post
This proves all women are gold diggers
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