The single biggest trait I have seen in men that suck with women.

Jesse Pinkman

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I know we can talk about looks, game, status, or whatever. We can talk about how one guy is awkward compared to others as well. I have over the years, seen one trait or characteristic, that sets men who slay apart from men who do awful with women. Now the reason I mention this trait here is because I have noticed that almost every single guy I knew who did horribly with women had this trait. Like I have rarely met an exception to this rule and whenever I saw this trait in a guy, come to find he had girl problems. That trait is....

How they respond to adversity and inconvenient situations
If you guys do not watch Bill Burr, I highly recommend getting into his content. One skit that sticks with me to this very day is the one about him being on a plane with turbulence, here it is. Now on a longer version of the skit he talks about how some woman is going to have kids with that guy and we will become weaker as a species. The reason I share that video is because this is something I have noticed almost every single time in men that struggle with women and with the game. The guys you see posts from on here crying about being virgins at a certain age, talking about how X city sucks for dating, how impossible the game has become, how hypergamy has ruined everything, and how we need to go back to how things need to be? They likely share this trait.

I remember being in middle school and we had to go on a class trip somewhere. Some kid had to pee real bad and this guy whined on the whole trip about how badly he has to pee and how much it sucks right now because he cannot pee. The trip got so bad that the kid was turning red and almost crying because he could not pee and the teachers had to calm him down. Truth is that a couple other guys also had to pee but they pretended that they did not. Fast forward to almost a decade and what do I notice?

Kid that whines about having to pee grows into an adult whose Facebook posts are super left leaning, talks about how toxic masculinity is ruining everything, and occasionally breaks down on Facebook statuses wishing that he could find a girl. Meanwhile, one of the two kids I kept in touch with who were not vocal about having to pee? He ends up moving to a big city, is living the life, has stories uploaded of him partying hard with hot girls (before COVID happened), and now has a different girl in his stories every few months.

Take the situation of the current abysmal sexual market place.

Yeah, things have gotten tougher for men. Now let me break down how one guy responds versus the other.

Guy 1 accepts that things are different and starts figuring out what is working for men out there doing well. Maybe he hits the gym, maybe he talks to more random women, maybe he moves to a different city, maybe he gets a good Instagram account, or maybe he finds some niche. The way his mind is working, as much as he accepts that things are different, he is working to find answers and solutions to his problems. No doubt that he will struggle during this process. Perhaps he is getting rejected too much, maybe his profile has not matches, and his Instagram barely gets any likes. Yet, Guy 1 keeps going, failing, trying, making adjustments, and after a while he starts to see some success. Is he doing supermodels? No, but he isn't exactly an incel either.

When adversity hits Guy 1 which it will in the form of rejections and other things, he shakes it off and keeps on going. It's like when they say NFL Quarterbacks need to have a short memory, Guy 1 has that. He gets rejected hard at the club and while most men will curl up and die, he keeps going until he figures it out or finds a better avenue. Rarely is he bitter for a prolonged amount of time.

Guy 2 hears the news and while deep down inside he fantasizes about success, he finds a "support group" and you guys know where I am going with this. Guy 2 will join a forum like maybe this one and talk about how he cannot get laid because of his height, race, past trauma, etc (all legitimate excuses by the way). You will find plenty of Guy 2s on your resident incel forums. Now logic will say that if these men are so down on themselves and feel like it is so hopeless, why don't they just quit their pursuit of dating success altogether and quit posting on dating forums and communities? Like why do they even stick around? They can spend those hours in another worthwhile hobby or even a skill to make a ton of cash.

Yet, that is the DNA of Guy 2. Guy 2 doesn't want to accept that he has failed but at the same time, has too delicate of an ego and is so sensitive that he wants to be coddled. In a way, Guy 2 is very much like women and children but society has no place for men who act like a woman or a child. Guy 2 wants the path of least resistance, the hand of big government to take care of him, and he genuinely wants to be treated like a little princess. Even having a woman that has sex with him is not enough, he wants people to feel sorry for him and to stick a pacifier in him. It is why no matter what you tell him, he will always whine.

Once again, you have an adverse situation with the current dating market but look at how winners react differently than the vast majority of losers. The truth is that what Guy 1 has done is infinitely harder than Guy 2. It's easy to curl up, cry, beg for someone to be your pacifier, and hope that Superman comes to save you. Meanwhile, it is tough as nails to get rejected, have your ego crushed, take risks, have society spit on you because you want to sleep with a lot of different women, make adjustments in who you are, and still keep on going.

In adverse situations, women ultimately look for the man who will not cry with them but the one who they can lean on. Women want the guy who, when sh1t hits the fan, can stand his ground and protect him. Guy 1 is going to be that guy. Guy 2 will be the one right there begging to be on the boat with the women and children because there is a lot he has in common with them.
 

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You failed to mentioned the guy who complained about peeing was a normie and the other two guys were Chads and that story is just an incidental. You take one or two isolated incidents here and there. What about a chad-tier guy who is a cry-baby who has a hot photo up on Tinder, you think he's failing?
 

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You failed to mentioned the guy who complained about peeing was a normie and the other two guys were Chads and that story is just an incidental. You take one or two isolated incidents here and there. What about a chad-tier guy who is a cry-baby who has a hot photo up on Tinder, you think he's failing?
Is he failing as much as the average incel? No.

Is he grossly underachieving by dating fat girls, women way uglier than him, and of low quality? Yes.
 

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Is he failing as much as the average incel? No.

Is he grossly underachieving by dating fat girls, women way uglier than him, and of low quality? Yes.
What you are talking about is called dumpster-diving. I can see where this thread is going....
 

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You failed to mentioned the guy who complained about peeing was a normie and the other two guys were Chads and that story is just an incidental. You take one or two isolated incidents here and there. What about a chad-tier guy who is a cry-baby who has a hot photo up on Tinder, you think he's failing?
I thought of you when I read about the guys who whine and cry. There are a few others on here aswell. Usually these are the ones crying about “Chad” and what not. Stop making ****ing excuses and blaming everyone but yourself for your failings with women. “ Oh poor me, Chad gets all the girls and I can’t because I’m not 6’4 with a godlike jaw line.” If some would stop thinking like this and realise you are in control of your dating succes you’ll find way more succes with women. Whining, negativity and wallowing in self-pity is NOT attractive. Go get **** done. Adapt. Roll with the punches. You know who gets the most respect from people? The ones that can face adversity, stare it in the eyes and ****ING OVERCOME IT. Women are so chaotic and helpless that they love when you are to be able to solve problems and overcome adversity. I’m witnessing this first hand. I got a plate that’s 22, she’s pretty helpless and whenever we are together she really values me overcoming problems instead of giving up. Her attraction grows because of it. Men solve problems, women complain about them. Don’t be a woman.
 

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Ill never understand how men don't see that comparing themselves to other men is damaging to their own frame.
Isnt this what women are supposed to do?
Its a frame killer.
It's okay to compare oneself to another man. The problem is when men use that comparison to put themselves down instead of back up. I get inspired when I see a guy doing better than me. That's the way it should go.
 

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Inspiration and learning from men is quite a bit different then putting other men down to lift oneself up. Seeking knowledge is one thing but what goes on in the sphere is toxic af.
What else do you expect from feminine men coming into places like this? They're following their brainwashing, and it's our job to remove said brainwashing. though I also think it also depends on how one was raised. Even my blue pilled days, I never put down other men. I actually tried to help them, but because they always scorned me for trying to help, it made me seek out reasons why men like remaining depressed, and eventually I found places like this that explained it. The crab mentality and other such things.
 

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birds of a feather flock together

also comparing yourself to other men is a dangerous path. Sucking with women??? what does that mean?...cause you dont have a gf, well maybe its not you... its that the girls suck...its all prospective
 

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You know who gets the most respect from people? The ones that can face adversity, stare it in the eyes and ****ING OVERCOME IT. Women are so chaotic and helpless that they love when you are to be able to solve problems and overcome adversity. I’m witnessing this first hand. I got a plate that’s 22, she’s pretty helpless and whenever we are together she really values me overcoming problems instead of giving up. Her attraction grows because of it. Men solve problems, women complain about them. Don’t be a woman.
That is solid blue-pill advice. Become a woman's therapist and emotional tampon and you'll be more deluded about her attraction. Well said. What other favours do you do for her?
 

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That is solid blue-pill advice. Become a woman's therapist and emotional tampon and you'll be more deluded about her attraction. Well said. What other favours do you do for her?
What are you even talking about? I am not saying you should solve her problems for her. I’m saying you solve problems that you face together. You take the LEAD. Or do you enjoy having women lead? Nobody said anything about being a therapist or emotional tampon.
 

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OP,

Again, there are certain aspects of your post that I agree with. But you clearly are here to simply start arguments (aka "trolling") when you make comments about how the guys like "Guy 2" in your post "end up at places like this forum."

Men are welcome here to discuss any variety of topics concerning women or otherwise. All of us come from different backgrounds and are working with different physical traits. Your post reeks of condescension which, for a guy who just joined a week ago, isn't the best look and isn't going to garner you many friends on this forum.

You come on here and act like you have all of the answers. Instead of posting your heavy-handed posts where you basically over-generalize, why not engage in the discussions on here themselves? You may find that some people here know a lot more than you seemingly are giving them credit for. You may even learn a thing or two.
 
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