Women & Money

[Bigpapa]

Women like money. They like outward displays of wealth.

All sex is transactional, whether directly or indirectly. Men will always use money to get access to sex. Some men have money as the entirety of their game. Bill Gates is the classic example of this, but there are plenty of business executives who use their salary as the basis of getting laid and getting relationship. You don't want to primarily compete for women just based on money. You'll need a lot of money to compete mostly on money.

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One popular maxim of the manosphere is the wall. It goes something like this: Once a girl is done riding the **** carousel, she will find herself at an age and lower attractiveness where she can no longer get the alpha male she wants. She will then have no choice but to load up on cats or find a lo

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The wall is softer than we think. Plenty of women in their 30s/40s are heavily pursued. @B80 -- Your aunt is her 60s was pursued. There are post menopausal women in their 50s/60s now getting heavily pursued on Match and OurTime. @BeExcellent is over 50 with children under 18 living at home and has a boyfriend who is 8 years younger. In the mid-2010s, my mom was in her early 60s and on dating websites. She was more pursued as a woman in her early 60s than she was as a high school cheerleader.



Fewer people are getting laid as a result of their presence at their workplaces. That's a trend that's been happening since the 1990s. The trend has likely accelerated with a lot of white collar work now substantially work at home.

I don't know if male nurses or male occupational therapists are getting laid a lot.





Nurses are more dateable than doctors, at least the nurses with a bachelor's degree or less. In general, women with advanced level degrees (more than a bachelor's) are not very dateable. Women with advanced level degrees are usually working a ton. Ever try to date a female lawyer? Good luck with that. Even if they are physically attractive, their schedules are insane and getting on it regularly is very difficult. Getting a female lawyer for one night of sex is possible or maybe even a casual bang scenario for a few months, but they are terrible girlfriends. It's a similar story for female doctors. Nurses are more likely to have enough free time to be dateable. Some nurses have the attitude problem that @HaleyBaron describes but writing off the entirety of that profession isn't an idea that makes sense. It's much more sensible to write off females in a profession requiring an advanced degree.

I think that women with masters degree and so on , or working very competitive jobs , suffer mainly from a superiority complex

they just think that they are better than you , which in return try emasculate the man

I date both medics and lawyers . They will always feel the need to contradict with you .

so you have 2 things working against them : the work which affects how much they sleep and relax ( you need a lot of good sleep to maintain your youthness , no matter the gender ) + the need to contradict you

this a Molotov ****tail for relationships

my current ex was really smart and so on , and she was extremely weak as well . Having panic attacks , having nightmares . But despite this , she still felt the need to argue with me on stupid topics , and she would get very defensive when I would rip off her arguing points

she knew that she was quite weak , and instead of following the lead , she rather argued . Her argues more or less was about demonstrating to her that she is not as weak as she thinks

I suspect that this is why women argue a lot with me , to demonstrate themselves that they are not as weak as they think

 

[biggoal]

I'd never want to go out with nurses. Stuck up and usually unattractive unless she's fresh 18-22 year old out of college.

Nurses want to hitch up with doctors. Thats their goal.

 

[SW15]

I think that women with masters degree and so on , or working very competitive jobs , suffer mainly from a superiority complex

they just think that they are better than you , which in return try emasculate the man

I date both medics and lawyers . They will always feel the need to contradict with you .

so you have 2 things working against them : the work which affects how much they sleep and relax ( you need a lot of good sleep to maintain your youthness , no matter the gender ) + the need to contradict you

this a Molotov ****tail for relationships

Accurate. Since my goals have always been more relationship oriented, I wish to avoid Molotov Coccktails for relationships. This is why I tend to avoid women with advanced degrees.

 

[BeExcellent]

My thoughts on this are relatively simple.

Men don’t take issue dating significantly down financially if they feel they are getting a good woman in exchange. This has to do with the natural proclivity for men to protect and provide for the woman.

Women on the other hand deep down whether they like to admit it or not like to feel protected and provided for by their man. If a woman outclasses a man substantially across the board (financially, intelligence wise, looks wise), she will not submit to a man who isn’t “above” her in some way.

So while a man’s options increase with greater education and success, a woman’s actually narrows. Fewer men are capable of leading her. Fewer men are worthy of her submission. So to be a more educated, more successful woman and succeed with the most desirable men (who every pretty girl wants) you have to understand the nature of this dichotomy and you have to bring your A game.

George Clooney. Extremely sought after by the world’s most beautiful models and starlets. Think he’s going to date a feminist shrew who is demanding based on her entitlement that derives from her accomplishments? No way. Not when he can pick a gorgeous lady who is feminine and demure (oh and happens to be a brilliant human rights advocacy lawyer too)…he gets the best of both worlds.

The best of both worlds is rare. If a woman has looks and success going for her? She’s wise to understand the appeal she has first as a beautiful feminine woman and be open to submit to a high quality man. Else he will pass by until he finds the best of both worlds. Because he can.

Many otherwise great women are lost on this point. And thus single.

I out earn my fiancé. But I do not out MAN him. Never. I am a lady and he the man. I feel loved and protected and he is liberal in his generosity with me (he makes 6 figures himself). I accompany him to his events & competitions, he comes first at home, and he handles “man stuff” at home. He is brilliant, handsome, talented, and in charge. Masculine. But he has his act together. I would not date a 30K a year man at my age. I’d never be able to take such a guy seriously. I’d think I know more than him (and I’d be right)….

 

[biggoal]

My thoughts on this are relatively simple.

Men don’t take issue dating significantly down financially if they feel they are getting a good woman in exchange. This has to do with the natural proclivity for men to protect and provide for the woman.

Women on the other hand deep down whether they like to admit it or not like to feel protected and provided for by their man. If a woman outclasses a man substantially across the board (financially, intelligence wise, looks wise), she will not submit to a man who isn’t “above” her in some way.

So while a man’s options increase with greater education and success, a woman’s actually narrows. Fewer men are capable of leading her. Fewer men are worthy of her submission. So to be a more educated, more successful woman and succeed with the most desirable men (who every pretty girl wants) you have to understand the nature of this dichotomy and you have to bring your A game.

George Clooney. Extremely sought after by the world’s most beautiful models and starlets. Think he’s going to date a feminist shrew who is demanding based on her entitlement that derives from her accomplishments? No way. Not when he can pick a gorgeous lady who is feminine and demure (oh and happens to be a brilliant human rights advocacy lawyer too)…he gets the best of both worlds.

The best of both worlds is rare. If a woman has looks and success going for her? She’s wise to understand the appeal she has first as a beautiful feminine woman and be open to submit to a high quality man. Else he will pass by until he finds the best of both worlds. Because he can.

Many otherwise great women are lost on this point. And thus single.

I out earn my fiancé. But I do not out MAN him. Never. I am a lady and he the man. I feel loved and protected and he is liberal in his generosity with me (he makes 6 figures himself). I accompany him to his events & competitions, he comes first at home, and he handles “man stuff” at home. He is brilliant, handsome, talented, and in charge. Masculine. But he has his act together. I would not date a 30K a year man at my age. I’d never be able to take such a guy seriously. I’d think I know more than him (and I’d be right)….

Money matters. Women in their 40s and on for example who make more are able to go to spas, get more cosmetic stuff done, etc. to look young.

 

[B80]

I think that women with masters degree and so on , or working very competitive jobs , suffer mainly from a superiority complex

they just think that they are better than you , which in return try emasculate the man

I date both medics and lawyers . They will always feel the need to contradict with you .

so you have 2 things working against them : the work which affects how much they sleep and relax ( you need a lot of good sleep to maintain your youthness , no matter the gender ) + the need to contradict you

this a Molotov ****tail for relationships

my current ex was really smart and so on , and she was extremely weak as well . Having panic attacks , having nightmares . But despite this , she still felt the need to argue with me on stupid topics , and she would get very defensive when I would rip off her arguing points

she knew that she was quite weak , and instead of following the lead , she rather argued . Her argues more or less was about demonstrating to her that she is not as weak as she thinks

I suspect that this is why women argue a lot with me , to demonstrate themselves that they are not as weak as they think

Yea mate, and the thing to remember with lawyers is, they're actually trained to argue, pick holes in minute things!

I doubt they all, can switch off from that mode outside work... it's probably engraved.

An aquitaince is a male lawyer and he used to be a pedantic, anal b**tard, but overall a good bloke still. No doubt varies from person to person, but stands to reason you're more likely to come across people with those traits who work in that profession. In the same way higher %of nerdy types work in certain tech fields.

 

[Bigpapa]

I think that women with masters degree and so on , or working very competitive jobs , suffer mainly from a superiority complex

they just think that they are better than you , which in return try emasculate the man

I date both medics and lawyers . They will always feel the need to contradict with you .

so you have 2 things working against them : the work which affects how much they sleep and relax ( you need a lot of good sleep to maintain your youthness , no matter the gender ) + the need to contradict you

this a Molotov ****tail for relationships

my current ex was really smart and so on , and she was extremely weak as well . Having panic attacks , having nightmares . But despite this , she still felt the need to argue with me on stupid topics , and she would get very defensive when I would rip off her arguing points

she knew that she was quite weak , and instead of following the lead , she rather argued . Her argues more or less was about demonstrating to her that she is not as weak as she thinks

I suspect that this is why women argue a lot with me , to demonstrate themselves that they are not as weak as they think

good post , but the problem that I see with money and women is that in a relationship no matter how much she earns and promotes the equality between men and women , at the end of the day the man’s money is our while Her money is only hers

And becomes very aggressive when she has to share for some reason or other even a tiny share of her money , even though is for the greater good for both

but in the same time , she has no issues making a fuss about not wanting 100% equality ( mainly in things that she does not want to do , and wants to split with you )

 

[bat soup]

There are a lot of ideas here that in order to be successful with women you need to have money , otherwise you will never have too much success with women .

this is partially true , as in order to keep or increase your SMV you have to invest in yourself : haircut , clothes , eating healthy ,staying in a decent apartment , etc . Basically basic stuff

when it comes to transcending to a proper relationship , that is when the money part becomes quite important . Mainly this happens because women are quite bad when it comes to money + they Think that the real life is what they see in movies and social media and think that they are missing something if a guy is not providing this

as a summary , when it comes to hooking up the money part is more a nice to have , as other stuff are more important like : location , timing , your social intelligence , how you look , etc

when it comes to a relationship more emphasis comes on the financial side of things

And most importantly , you have to realize that the relationship is on the shoulders of the guy mainly , as more or less he has to make amends with himself that he more or less has to provide for the girl one way or the other . Women always do not take accountability for anything

I don't know if anyone else has noticed but women seem to like money.

 

[Bigpapa]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed but women seem to like money.

everyone likes money , the question is how you frame it . Like would you take a hit financially for someone that you are in a relationship because you put the relationship above you , or in the moment things are not happening as you expect you bail out because money is more important than the relationship

 

[bat soup]

Any man who goes into a female dominated space increases his chances of getting laid in a big way. This is the secret motive of trannies too. They want to get invited to girls sleepovers and whip out the post-op frankenstein d1ckclit when the girls are sleeping thinking they are safe.

They do. They just whip it out.

 

[bat soup]

everyone likes money , the question is how you frame it . Like would you take a hit financially for someone that you are in a relationship because you put the relationship above you , or in the moment things are not happening as you expect you bail out because money is more important than the relationship

To be successful with women you don't need money, necessarily. You need to have something they want. It could be money, or it could be something else (e.g. a 10 inch kok).

The guys that lose all of their money on women in most cases ended up women that just wanted money because they didn't have anything else to offer.