The Algorithm of Game. Is This What Game Is After All?

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If only. Sometimes they not into you, no matter what.
 

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Looks like a thirsty chart to me. Telling a woman you want her is never a good idea. The only thing that matters is if she wants you.
The chart says you have to show intent, obviously it should be in a high value way (don't say "I wanna **** you" as the first thing that comes from your mouth, although sometimes even works, specially with DTF) but saying "I wanna **** you" is 1000 times better than saying "How is the weather?" because at least you let Her Know clearly what you want. This type of communication is called phatic communication.

Girls might want you but if you don't show you want her she will not want you.. I mean you have to take action, you have to make the move. And how you do that move? Asking her about the weather? NO. Talking about school or videogames? NO. That she wants you is a requirement but it is not enough to make things happen.

Saying I like you but I am not sure is 1000 times better (not always btw) than saying
"You are the most beautiful girl in the world" but this last is 10000 times better than asking her for advice or talking about the weather which shows 0 intent.
 

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show intent (flirt) and have a normal convo.
if she responds positively (ie feminine, warm and putting in some kind of effort rather than generic responses) then she’s into you.
if a woman acts cold/aloof when you show intent, she’s not into you, move on!
 

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Bro, can you tell me what you think girls are really attracted to?
I believe its a combination of things, but not the exact same one for every girl. We as guys, have the boner test, which is the minimum girls must pass. According to my current gf, women have an equivalent version, they feel ticklish in their vagina.
 

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If by showing intent you mean in any way letting her know that you want to bang her, I’d say it’s always counter productive. It validates her and women don’t get horny when they get validated in that way.

You’re better off just being sexual. But not directing it towards her, so that she doesn’t get a sense that you’re trying to fvck her. This is the game - you turn her on without giving your cards away. The only cards a man has, ever, is the mystery that he can create for a woman. Once she knows your mind, the pvssy dies. As all married men discover.
I agree but you are taking that mentality to the extreme and in theory sounds cool but real life is another thing. I have lost many women trying to not give my power away, and yes literally, because I have realized that many times girls expect that you hit on her, when you go for the kiss there is no way to not give your power away, you have to hit on her at some point if you want to have sex with her whether it is verbally or physically, physically will be necessary at some point.

Here is the thing, the reason you "I wanna **** you" doesn't work too often is because saying it to early displays neediness and desesperation but it is not that you can't say it. If you have enough game you can say that literally and she will take off her clothes and **** you, literally.
 

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show intent (flirt) and have a normal convo.
if she responds positively (ie feminine, warm and putting in some kind of effort rather than generic responses) then she’s into you.
if a woman acts cold/aloof when you show intent, she’s not into you, move on!
Exactly, that is the idea but let's say she is into you, now what? What to do about it?
 

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I believe its a combination of things, but not the exact same one for every girl. We as guys, have the boner test, which is the minimum girls must pass. According to my current gf, women have an equivalent version, they feel ticklish in their vagina.
What is that combination of things? SoI can try to accomplish it
 

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What is that combination of things? SoI can try to accomplish it
Kind of hard to put into words and like I said, not gonna be the exact same thing with every girl, but in general you must give off this vibe that your are not needy or clingy. No double texting, no long texts, no being too available. That you are comfortable with your social circle and sociale life. Somehow give off the vibe that your SMV is a little bit higher than hers. Somehow give off the vibe that you have abundance (of girls) and you could esaily find a younger, hotter girl if you wanted to so she better bring her A game to the f0cking table.
 

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doing what girls “expect you to do” is beta. You have to completely remove that mindset.

You know why girls expect you to kiss her and make a move and continually persist when she rejects you? Because she expects you to be thirsty, and to treat her like a Queen. Your thirst chart would confirm for her that “I must have her no matter what.”

Of course you hit on her. But you don’t talk about it with her. You do it. It should always feel like it “just happened” for the girl. And if she’s not interested you walk away. Simple as that. But you shouldn’t be making a move as a “Hail Mary” - By the time you go to kiss her she should already be wanting it because you’ve gamed her well. You should never be in a position where you’re just “making a move” as part of a strategy to create interest and attraction. You’ve got it back to front. You create attraction and interest first, and then you make a move/escalate physically.

Persisting, when she’s rejecting, isn’t a good frame. It’s making her the prize and you the pursuer. If it’s LMR in the bedroom, that’s a bit different, but generally speaking if a girl is saying “no” then she’s either not interested, or she wants you to simp more (which further validates her = no sex).
Bro I already know that. You are confused about the way I use the term "Intent". Showing intent doesn't necessary have to be done explicit or even verbally. The term is used to means Man to Woman Type of Comunication regardless of whether you give your power away or not. It means any type of message. Once you show intent you, she has only 3 ways of respond: **** test you (challenge you), ignore (changing topic to non man Women frame) or positively which means you are good to go further with the escalation. That is what this chart express. You are talking things that I agree too
 

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Then your chart should simply say “show intent” and if you meet resistance you Next her
Rejection is not a resistance.

**** Test is a form of resistance and the chart doesn't say "next her" when you get a **** test. It says pass the test and try again and if you meet another **** test, you pass it again and repeat while she is ****testing. If at some point you get a rejection, then you next her.

The other form of resistance is by changing the frame to try to friendzone you. For example you flirt with her and she just try to engage you in a friendly type of vibe far away from man to women vibe. But she is also not rejecting you yet. This is in reality another form of test hoping that you will be a little bit persistence or could be that she is not really into you. This type of girl are difficult and they are called "Time Waster". Those require a good eye to filter them and the way to do it is by forcing her to show their cards, you do that by showing intent, if she change topic you get back to man to women Frame over and over again until she doesn't have a choice than reject you (then you know she was a NO Girl pretending to be a yes) or acept and reciprocate (then you can Escalate further).

The third type of respond is more than obvious: if she acept and reciprocate (which means a positive respond) you Escalate further and you can do that verbally or physically, doesn't matter, it is up to your style of Game.

Simplified:
You show intent --> ex. "You are cute. I wanna meet you"
4 type of Responds:
Negative (Rejection) ---> Next Her
Positive (Acept/reciprocate) --> Escalate further
**** Test (challenge) --> Pass the test and show intent again until she acept/reciprocate or reject you.
Neutral --> Show Intent again until she acept/reciprocate or Reject you.

**if you don't show intent (or man to women type of comunication regardless whether it is explicit, implicit, verbally, non verbally, physically or whatever channel of comynication) You won't get the 4 type of respond and then you won't know how to proceed
 

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Kind of hard to put into words and like I said, not gonna be the exact same thing with every girl, but in general you must give off this vibe that your are not needy or clingy. No double texting, no long texts, no being too available. That you are comfortable with your social circle and sociale life. Somehow give off the vibe that your SMV is a little bit higher than hers. Somehow give off the vibe that you have abundance (of girls) and you could esaily find a younger, hotter girl if you wanted to so she better bring her A game to the f0cking table.
If that would be the case, this combo or sequence would work all the time:

1. Open: You are cute but I am not sure yet so I have to know you first. What is your name? Sara. Ok Sara nice to meet you. I am Jhon. I am curious what is interesting about you? Bla bla. Ok so you are very Adventures? Yeah. Awesome I like adventure girls. What about if we go on an adventure next Saturday. Ok. Let's exchange number so I can text you later. Ok

Now let me know what is needy or clingy in that conversation and why then must conversation exactly like this end in flake or nothing happen. Was I needy? No. Was I clingy? No. Then why the girl is not attracted to me if I have the main supposed attractive traits that you are telling me you might ask when this type of conversation doesn't lead to anything. That is when you ask yourself, what girls are really attracted to?
 
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If that would be the case, this combo or sequence would work all the time:

1. Open: You are cute but I am not sure yet so I have to know you first. What is your name? Sara. Ok Sara nice to meet you. I am Jhon. I am curious what is interesting about you? Bla bla. Ok so you are very Adventures? Yeah. Awesome I like adventure girls. What about if we go on an adventure next Saturday. Ok. Let's exchange number so I can text you later. Ok

Now let me know what is needy or clingy in that conversation and why then must conversation exactly like this end in flake or nothing happen. Was I needy? No. Was I clingy? No. Then why the girl is not attracted to me if I have the main supposed attractive traits that you are telling me you might ask when this type of conversation doesn't lead to anything. That is when you ask yourself, what girls are really attracted to?
Who knows, maybe the girl thought your body language was needy or clingy. Dosent matter.

Get a bunch of matches on Tinder/Bumble. Plan dates you would actually enjoy regardless of company. Triple book girls. If none cancels, go out with the hottest one and bail on the other girls. Rinse & repeat. Thats what worked for me when I was single.
 

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Bro, can you tell me what you think girls are really attracted to?
Girls are attracted to guys like people are attracted to food.

Only way to find out is interact and see.

All this "game" crap is an attempt to avoid starting a regular conversation with a lady and just seeing how it plays out.

No amount of planning or scheming or diagram studying will remove this necessity.
 

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I always lol whenever I see deezbrah's comply or #bye nonsense be preached about here. As someone who actually gets laid, I will tell you, that just about every girl I've slept with, I've met with some form of resistance when I've tried to make things happen (not complying. Which means I'd next them).

My argument is that it is not only a good thing but also extremely necessary because it gives you key information about what she needs in order for you to take her home.

Off the top of my head, the forms of resistance I've encountered are (these do not have to be explicitly stated. Can be read, non-verbally. And they can be a mesh of them together. So these are not mutually exclusive)

- Not yet (resisting subtle physical esclation).
- Not here/over there (either the place you want to bang her is: too far, not enough privacy, too uncomfortable).
- Not today (the night you met her).
- I can't (because xyz obstacle (bf/friends/condom).

So you persistent (identifying and then solving the thing preventing her from sleeping with you) through this resistance. If you encounter resistance, and you next her, she'll just give it up to the next guy who is able to identify what she needs and is able to provide the solution for her. "he gets it"

Like if she's still there talking with you after she just told you (explicitly or implicitly) what's holding her back, then she's interested. It does not mean you just next her for failing to comply to your compliance test lol. You just missing out on so many girls, and that's why you in inceldom. Because it's rare for girls to not resist during any point of the seduction process.
 

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@catsmeow this is why I ask pan87 to post receipts proof because until then he is still to me a fantasist incel posing as a slayer.
 

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He is not being direct about his interest so I'm left to question and wonder. He's testing to see how I respond (whether I will comply or not) but there have been times when I interpreted that as disinterest so I resisted (shyt tested) and thus failed his compliance test.

Two people with high interest, one person (him) compliance testing and the other (me) shyt testing, and both of us failing each others tests and the whole thing blows up in smoke.
Can you give a detailed example of this situation?
 
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