Research shows that marrying young without having lived together makes for the lowest divorce rates

[Zimbabwe]

That’s not even nature’s order. Women and children cannot survive in nature without male protection.

Good point, it also takes children 18-25 years to mature. A child cannot survive in the world alone. The man is needed.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Male protection is disposable though. It's somewhat like an ant farm. The Queen and the eggs are the most valuable right? But they can't survive without the worker ants. A few of the worker ants are selected as breeder ants. But they are all disposable. Only the Queen and the egg chamber are guarded to the death by the Betas...errrr... I mean worker ants.

Men make themselves disposable by their desire to self-sacrifice for the queen. But occassionally the ant farm bands together and overthrows the Queen, installing a new one. And then the simping and self-sacrifice process starts all over again.

No, not really. In nature, male mammals kill the offspring from another male before mating with a female. If her biological imperative is to raise the children, the fate of that child lies with the child’s father.

 

[SW15]

That’s why I believe if you want that fairy tale love story with your soulmate, it’s gotta happen in the early twenties or it won’t at all. You ain’t gonna find that type of connection in your 30s/40s.

Longer term pairings that start in one's 30s/40s are like corporate mergers of two established companies. It can be a bit awkward.

 

[Konada]

The point of marriage has never been “happiness.”

Being married doesn't suddenly turn your relationship into a fairytale.

One has no business getting married if the relationship does not make him happy.

Happiness is a pre-requisite to marriage, not the outcome.

 

[Zimbabwe]

No, not really. In nature, male mammals kill the offspring from another male before mating with a female. If her biological imperative is to raise the children, the fate of that child lies with the child’s father.

Nature is very diverse, male lions sleep and have sex all day while the females go out and do the hunting. Female bees and ants do all the work while the males just exist to have sex with the Queens.

Religion is created for Betas so they don't get sexually frustrated and see some nobility in their incel-dom. You can channel their sexual energy into building your kingdom for you.

A society of sexless males is going to lead to disaster, they will rise up one way or another. We already see incels committing more and more mass shootings. There are so many guys i went to highschool with that are still kissless virgins even today.

 

[BadBoy89]

Lowest divorce rates = great for society and powers that be.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Lowest divorce rates = great for society and powers that be.

Imagine the wife had to pay alimony and child support after a divorce, the rates would drop so low

 

[BackInTheGame78]

The point of marriage has never been “happiness.”

Right...because two people who hate each other usually get married

 

[EyeBRollin]

Nature is very diverse, male lions sleep and have sex all day while the females go out and do the hunting. Female bees and ants do all the work while the males just exist to have sex with the Queens.

I specifically mentioned mammals, not insects, for a reason.

Right...because two people who hate each other usually get married

That has happened for sure. Arranged marriages were a common and successful practice. Happiness has never been a perquisite or a goal for marriage.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Remove bluepill conditioning - If a man can get away with it, he would kill all other men in the entire world and monopolize all the women.

There's only one thing stopping him - all the other men. This is the ant farm analogy. So, instead of man-on-man combat to the death, there's a hierarchy created of selected breeding males (alphas) and worker ants (betas). Religion is created for Betas so they don't get sexually frustrated and see some nobility in their incel-dom. You can channel their sexual energy into building your kingdom for you.

The top men create this system of the appearance of Feminine primacy because it simultaneously benefits them as the selected breeding males, and shuts out all other men. That's exactly the situation we have forming in human society now. And you'll see it accelerate as AI takes over - you'll be completely prevented from having access to real women. You'll be given an AI girlfriend instead.

Women are valuable because men are all fighting to monopolize them. See women as Gold and Men as Gold Mining prospectors trying to stake their claim.

That is up to personal interpretation. I do not think reality shows women have superior value. We are a tournament species in which all the women want to mate with the top 10-20% men. Those men are significantly more valuable than any woman.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I specifically mentioned mammals, not insects, for a reason.



That has happened for sure. Arranged marriages were a common and successful practice. Happiness has never been a perquisite or a goal for marriage.

In the past no, in modern times yes. While there are other reasons people get married, the vast majority of the time it's because they believe they will be happy being with that person.

 

[EyeBRollin]

In the past no, in modern times yes. While there are other reasons people get married, the vast majority of the time it's because they believe they will be happy being with that person.

That is Disney marketing. Marriage has nothing to do with happiness.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That is Disney marketing. Marriage has nothing to do with happiness.

Have you ever been married?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Have you ever been married?

Irrelevant.

 

[bat soup]

When you get married young, you are more likely to adapt and mold. As you grow older, both parties become more entrenched in their own ways, and less compromises are made.

That’s why I believe if you want that fairy tale love story with your soulmate, it’s gotta happen in the early twenties or it won’t at all. You ain’t gonna find that type of connection in your 30s/40s.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Firstly, because the idea of a "soulmate" is mostly just a fairy tale fantasy anyway. Secondly, younger people are more easily influenced and still have a lot of changing and growing up to do. Therefore, the person that you might think is perfect for you at a young age could change completely and you could also change and grow apart.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Irrelevant.

No it's very relevant. You are talking in certainly about something you have never been involved in otherwise which means you have no practical experience to be talking about it.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No it's very relevant. You are talking in certainly about something you have never been involved in otherwise which means you have no practical experience to be talking about it.

That is an ad hominem. The institution of marriage was not created for “happiness.” That whole concept is late 20th-21st century marketing.