LMR and ****-tests kill the vibe

[FlexpertHamilton]

You know what I'm talking about... You meet a girl you hardly know, have a drink with her for an hour or two and bring her back to your place. You're chilling on the couch, not giving a ****, while her head starts spinning... She cannot possibly justify to herself, let alone her friends, her risky and slutty actions, so she goes through all sorts of mental gymnastics.

Constant **** tests, hammering you with questions (how many girls do you do this with!? when was the last time you had sex!? when was your last relationship, and how long was it!? etc...), push-pulls (some girls will even physically push me away then pull me back and kiss me), and just more LMR weirdness. Until you actually are about to penetrate them they will put up all sorts of fronts until they are literally asking for ****.

Personally, I do not enjoy this process. I find it irritating and it kills the mood. And in rare cases, it goes on indefinitely, and I just give up (not going to psuedo-rape them even if they secretly want it).

The best sex I've had is with girls who are just down and don't have to play these games with themselves to pretend they're not a slut. Anyone else relate? Seems to happen to me more and more lately...half the time it's not even worth the effort.

 

[SargeMaximus]

100%. I can’t stand the **** tests and half the time I assume its a IDI rather than a sh*t test

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

It's tricky, because if she makes herself too easy for you then she knows you won't respect her "hurrrrrrr slvt"

But she also knows if she makes it too difficult then you'll rage-quit.

She's weighing this up in her mind.

I don't think they realize most guys will respect them more if they don't play games and just **** with a real burning passion.

 

[Striker_93]

It sucks sometimes, other times it's kinda fun especially when you know the end result will be the same.......

It's apart of the game though and not really avoidable for the most part.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

They've tried this. Guy usually either pumps and dumps her, or turns her into a "plate", or he turns into a massive simp and freaks her out.

It's not what she's looking for. Girls typically don't get together with guys just for sex. If a girl is giving you LMR she either doesn't like you, or she is weighing up those things I mentioned i.e. wanting you to respect her, while trying not to dishearten you by making herself too difficult. She's also hoping you don't turn into a massive simp like the last guy she let bang her who started blowing up her phone.

A girl only needs to get burned a view times before she gets wise. This is why virgins are so awesome. They are untainted by bad experiences and are therefore usually much easier. If you can get one then you can convert her into a woman who loves fvcking you all the time because you're all she knows, and women are much happier this way. It's much harder to do that with a slvt because her hypergamy switch is flipped and she's on her mission for the biggest and best deal. If you're not the best she can get then she's not sticking around for long, or even entertaining you at all.

Women will never like sex as much as you do man. It's just the way it is.

I wonder if it's better to throw their own psychology back at them and insist that you won't have sex and show that you're in control but not thirsty, and wait until the 2nd or 3rd date to actually try to have sex.

Personally I have a very low sex drive and I can easily go without it. I only do it because it feels like a waste not to when the cards are on the table.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I wonder if it's better to throw their own psychology back at them and insist that you won't have sex and show that you're in control but not thirsty, and wait until the 2nd or 3rd date to actually try to have sex.

Personally I have a very low sex drive and I can easily go without it. I only do it because it feels like a waste not to when the cards are on the table.

Field test it and let us know

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Field test it and let us know

Seems like a waste of time tbh. Wouldn't really do it unless I was certain she was looking for an LTR (which I'm not...)

 

[Velasco]

hammering you with questions (how many girls do you do this with!? when was the last time you had sex!? when was your last relationship, and how long was it!? etc...),

Ideally you've already answered these questions before youve brought her back to your place. Then questions really shouldn't bother you anyway because you kind of expect them to come up, if you do sex talk.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Ideally you've already answered these questions before youve brought her back to your place. Then questions really shouldn't bother you anyway because you kind of expect them to come up, if you do sex talk.

They bother me when we're in the middle of foreplay and they pepper them in every step of the way. It's just annoying and gives me a headache. I'm not a multitasker.

 

[Velasco]

They bother me when we're in the middle of foreplay and they pepper them in every step of the way. It's just annoying and gives me a headache. I'm not a multitasker.

If your getting these while I'm the middle of foreplay, then she's not there yet. Stop the foreplay. Get her comfortable. Then as you see shes loosened up a bit, begin to turn her on again with your words/nonverbals. Pay attention to her body language. It'll tell you what she needs

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

If your getting these while I'm the middle of foreplay, then she's not there yet. Stop the foreplay. Get her comfortable. Then as you see shes loosened up a bit, begin to turn her on again with your words/nonverbals. Pay attention to her body language. It'll tell you what she needs

That's what I do. Then I'll get as far as having them on my bed with her top off and she'll put up more LMR. By the end of it they often end up begging for **** and are soaking wet, so in some cases it's clearly all for show.

Understand where she’s coming from.

Women aren’t as impulsive about sex as men. They are wired by evolution to ideally make sensible breeding/mating decisions. This is the primal hardware she’s operating on.

So her questioning you is her simply indirectly saying out loud - “Fvck I really hope I’m not making a bad decision here.”

For women, it’s all about submission. She submits to a worthy man. This is both scary and sexy for her.

The woman who’s giving you LMR has not submitted to you yet = attraction too low.

Her attraction for you has to outweigh any perceived risks.

My question is why would aloofly (or badly) answering a barrage of questions (as LMR) end up making her put out in the end? I can only think of a handful occasions in my entire life where the LMR actually prevented sex. It always feels like a facade.

Maybe I am just moving too fast. I don't text before the date and usually have them back at my place within 2 hours or less. End up making a move within 15-20 minutes. I don't mind basking in the sexual tension but at some point I feel I ought to make a move so I don't look like a *****.

Sometimes I'll just go for a light kiss and back away, then slowly escalate further bit by bit while gauging body language, that usually seems to work best, but sometimes I'm just sloppy I guess.