Is it just me or women have changed?

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The point is, that's all they wanted. Spy and scrutinize my life without actually contributing anything to it. Trick me into giving them that precious attention and validation they so desperately crave. That's when I took a step back and asked what exactly was I gaining from having an IG? Absolutely nothing.
It's a kind of gold diggers. In my various spheres girls sometimes ask me "Who are you meeting?" and "What are you doing this evening?" One might first think this is genuine interest in me or hang out with me, but they're just again gold diggers. It's not a house or bank transfer, but a social currency of status and popularity they are after.
 

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Yup a plate of mine is a terrible procrastinator, late to everything, always. Waits to the last moment to make plans, then is late. If I’m not available she throws shyte fit. If she wasn’t such an HB and great lay I’d tell her to pound dirt.

they’re really ****ed in the head, sigh.

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P.s. Trying something new with a gal, second date with no sex this is new for me, it’s very rare for me not to pet the kitty out of the gate, but hey it’s novel. It’s cool cause I actually enjoy her company and frankly I have plenty of sechs basically daily from other pieces.
 

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I'm not sure if it's me or not. I have tried everything and when I say everything I mean everything to date successfully and most of these women I have complained about are into just hooking up and when I am doing the honesty thing as outlined by Mark Manson, a problem I come against. Even if you are honest women do not like that. But I think personally it's just that American women are low quality and it's ridiculous. I simply gave up on dating. Yeah I live in America and can't afford the luxury to move to another country.

So tell me guys, is it just me or have women gotten worse? I could tell you about my experiences but it's too many to tell.
American women have drank the feminist kool aide most women are

-Overweight
-Nasty attidude/Masculihne
-Single mothers (even women in their 20s)
-Lack feminity

Even the hot women, if you travel outside of america it's like night and day.
 

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I was last single in the mid-00’s. And then again, 2018-19’. Clubs/bars are less vibrant. OLD is a thing. And that can be s blessing or a curse, depending on the guy. More tat’s (but I don’t care one way or another). Girls are more open to being Bi-. But my experience has been that’s it’s just empty virtue signaling. They want dvck. The whole #metoo thing never seems to have happened. Girls are pretty much the same. Maybe at little bit more confident.
With all that being said. I really haven’t analyzed things since Covid. My superficial impression, living as an unmasked wolf in sea of masked sheep is Covid has made things worse. People view themselves & others as dangerous disease vectors, rather than fellow human beings.
This has got to be one of the worst times to be single.
There's a side effect to that. Covid makes it easier for women to see the "bad boys" from the good ones. Being unmasked, Im considered bad already. All the girls who are mask freaks still hang out with me, and they throw those flirty eyes constantly. I suspect they see any guy who wears a mask as a weak person anyway. But this goes hand in hand with easily controlled men. They want men to break the system, not follow it. I got it from my father and grandfather so it's just embedded in me. The amount of trouble I got in school is part of it. But it has also been the reason for my professional and female success.
 

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Lol. Guys I decided to keep women at arms length. I'm done. So I've learned that women are truly predatory. So I guess you can equate me with MGTOW.

I feel freer, I'm not focused on women anymore or getting a relationship or seeking approval. Yup I was blue pilled but this past month and a half. I swallowed the red pill.

I don't hate women and accept their nature. So I made that decision to keep them at arms length. I've had too much **** happen to me that I finally flipped a switch or flip off women.

I get really annoyed when someone says "you will find someone one day" I respond, I'm not interested!!!!!!!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Lol. Guys I decided to keep women at arms length. I'm done. So I've learned that women are truly predatory. So I guess you can equate me with MGTOW.

I feel freer, I'm not focused on women anymore or getting a relationship or seeking approval. Yup I was blue pilled but this past month and a half. I swallowed the red pill.

I don't hate women and accept their nature. So I made that decision to keep them at arms length. I've had too much **** happen to me that I finally flipped a switch or flip off women.

I get really annoyed when someone says "you will find someone one day" I respond, I'm not interested!!!!!!!
One of my friends went MGTOW a few years ago after divorce-r@ped. He is the happiest and freest of all of our group.
 

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Lol. Guys I decided to keep women at arms length. I'm done. So I've learned that women are truly predatory. So I guess you can equate me with MGTOW.

I feel freer, I'm not focused on women anymore or getting a relationship or seeking approval. Yup I was blue pilled but this past month and a half. I swallowed the red pill.

I don't hate women and accept their nature. So I made that decision to keep them at arms length. I've had too much **** happen to me that I finally flipped a switch or flip off women.

I get really annoyed when someone says "you will find someone one day" I respond, I'm not interested!!!!!!!
MGTOW is the black pill, the red pill is "don't ask for lighter burdens but broader shoulders" and maximizing your potential. Real red pill is doing what you want to do, regardless of what others may think of you. Honestly, it's people and the connections we build with them that really gives life meaning, working together to build something of value isn't something exclusive to sexual/intimate relationships. Whether we like it or not, we'll always have this burden of performance as people of both sexes judge you, either as potential partners or rivals, so don't think this behavior is exclusive to women.

Healthy relationships can be built, even when working against adversaries, but both parties require each others respect. What you choose to do is up to you, but don't label yourself as part of some ideology as that's how we get a lot of blind followers who don't come to their own conclusions. Do it because it's what you believe in, not because someone else told you.
 

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With all that being said. I really haven’t analyzed things since Covid. My superficial impression, living as an unmasked wolf in sea of masked sheep is Covid has made things worse. People view themselves & others as dangerous disease vectors, rather than fellow human beings.
This has got to be one of the worst times to be single.
Your superficial impression is correct.
 

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Man please, they like real "bad boys" not guys who think there bad because they dont wear a mask.

You have to do more than not wear a mask to be considered "bad"
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I’m in an area that’s about 80% masked. However, most people here don’t give AF if someone is masked or not.
People seem to wear it out of habit, or it makes them feel safer. I don’t think I’m thought of as a ‘bad boy’ for being unmasked. What’s interesting is that White people, particularly in wealthier areas, are more likely to be maskless. And often these area are very liberal. Minorities, particularly Asians, are the most masked. And the number of masked women/unmasked men couples (GF & I are in this category) is large.
 

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Man please, they like real "bad boys" not guys who think there bad because they dont wear a mask.

You have to do more than not wear a mask to be considered "bad"
I'm obviously being a little satiric, but I've gotten way more attention than anyone else. Even if it's fearful attention of not having my mask. But since I know Im good looking, it's anything but. The wheels in the female heads are usually turning hard.

I’m in an area that’s about 80% masked. However, most people here don’t give AF if someone is masked or not.
People seem to wear it out of habit, or it makes them feel safer. I don’t think I’m thought of as a ‘bad boy’ for being unmasked. What’s interesting is that White people, particularly in wealthier areas, are more likely to be maskless. And often these area are very liberal. Minorities, particularly Asians, are the most masked. And the number of masked women/unmasked men couples (GF & I are in this category) is large.
I live around a semi wealthy area of my city and it's the opposite. I know you're in California, so thats surprising to hear. Here in Texas, most people are forgoing masks, but in the tight liberal or hippie areas, they still wear them dubiously, especially if a store forces them to. I fear masks are the new inner city fashion. But like you said, only in the most remote places where they cant be shamed will they get rid of it.
 

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I'm obviously being a little satiric, but I've gotten way more attention than anyone else. Even if it's fearful attention of not having my mask. But since I know Im good looking, it's anything but. The wheels in the female heads are usually turning hard.



I live around a semi wealthy area of my city and it's the opposite. I know you're in California, so thats surprising to hear. Here in Texas, most people are forgoing masks, but in the tight liberal or hippie areas, they still wear them dubiously, especially if a store forces them to. I fear masks are the new inner city fashion. But like you said, only in the most remote places where they cant be shamed will they get rid of it.
I have notice a slight, but perceptible, decline in mask wearing out here.
 

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I have notice a slight, but perceptible, decline in mask wearing out here.
There's still enough mask wearing that indoor approaching in grocery stores, malls, and other retail isn't fruitful at this time. Even if women aren't wearing masks, they aren't excited to have indoor conversations with strangers because they are still perceiving other people as dangerous disease vectors rather than human beings as you said earlier in this thread.
 

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I still remember in 2020 when I went to the store without a mask, and one of the female employees came up to me asking me to wear one. When I leaned in to ask her to say it again cause I honestly couldnt hear her through her mask, she leaned back with this sudden fear in her eyes. That put an impression on me since.
 

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Thats not what I
MGTOW is the black pill, the red pill is "don't ask for lighter burdens but broader shoulders" and maximizing your potential. Real red pill is doing what you want to do, regardless of what others may think of you. Honestly, it's people and the connections we build with them that really gives life meaning, working together to build something of value isn't something exclusive to sexual/intimate relationships. Whether we like it or not, we'll always have this burden of performance as people of both sexes judge you, either as potential partners or rivals, so don't think this behavior is exclusive to women.

Healthy relationships can be built, even when working against adversaries, but both parties require each others respect. What you choose to do is up to you, but don't label yourself as part of some ideology as that's how we get a lot of blind followers who don't come to their own conclusions. Do it because it's what you believe in, not because someone else told you.
That's not what I have experienced with MGTOW it's not really a group or organization. Some are red pilled and some are black pilled.

Oh trust me I'm doing it because I want to. No one told me ****.

I honestly do not really care about relationships,at least for now. I just need a break and "go my own way" for a good while.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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