(Recent Cnn article) Americans less likely to have sex, partner up and get married than ever

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Well at least we can laugh at Gillette for loosing 8 billion on their campaign.
and have fun at that. Sadly they did not learn from it it seems.
But I'll stop there.
That is an old article (2019), but I am glad Gillette took a nose dive after that toxic masculinity ad. I still refuse to buy any of their products.

I hope Gillette keeps struggling.

I'm 6'4", have an average income but approaching millionaire status and one of the fittest guys at the gym, been bulking for a few years so not super ripped.......and I was getting nothing for years and eventually gave up lol.
Still amazed that a 6'4" guy with big muscles could have such issues in the dating market.

LGBTQ adults in U.S. has doubled over past decade, Gallup finds


This is just sad, how far has America fallen.
Millennials and Gen Z think being LBGTQ is cool. Also, I'm wondering if there have been any environmental toxins that have caused this. I'm thinking the causes of this are more in the social science realm than the hard science realm.
 

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Also, I'm wondering if there have been any environmental toxins that have caused this. I'm thinking the causes of this are more in the social science realm than the hard science realm.
It is down to this dude for sure:
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

Millennials and Gen Z are weak generations with curling moms and soccer dads and brought up with the brilliant idea that communism is a great idea and as soon anything in life throws them some resistance they need safe zones and are offended. They want to cancel everything and everyone they do not agree with and also think that censorship is better than free speech because it protects them from free speech....

They are such unique mom and dad's little snowflakes.. So precious..

Sigh...




How can this create anything else but weak men and women, right?
 
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Never understood that. How can it be cool? Its just super gay...
To Millennials and Gen Z, LBGTQ is cool because more people are doing it.

Millennials and Gen Z are weak generations with curling moms and soccer dads and brought up with the brilliant idea that communism is a great idea and as soon anything in life throws them some resistance they need safe zones and are offended. They want to cancel everything and everyone they do not agree with and also think that censorship is better than free speech because it protects them from free speech....

They are such unique mom and dad's little snowflakes.. So precious..
I was born near the beginning of the Millennial generation. I'm an early Millennial.

The oldest Millennials (1982-1986 births) were raised during the "Participation Trophy" and "Let's Boost Self-Esteem" eras of the 1990s/early 2000s. Their parents were the Boomers, who were coming of age in the 1960s/1970s free love/hippies are awesome/feminism is awesome/Sexual Revolution era. The rest of the Millennial generation (1987-1996) had mainly Boomer parents though some of latter part of the generation had early Gen X parents.

The Millennials started cancel culture and were a big part of #MeToo. A lot of Gen Z isn't 18 yet. The ones that are 18 are different from Millennials, but early Gen Z isn't changing that much. Gen Z likes LBGTQ stuff more than even Millennials did.
 

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To Millennials and Gen Z, LBGTQ is cool because more people are doing it.



I was born near the beginning of the Millennial generation. I'm an early Millennial.

The oldest Millennials (1982-1986 births) were raised during the "Participation Trophy" and "Let's Boost Self-Esteem" eras of the 1990s/early 2000s. Their parents were the Boomers, who were coming of age in the 1960s/1970s free love/hippies are awesome/feminism is awesome/Sexual Revolution era. The rest of the Millennial generation (1987-1996) had mainly Boomer parents though some of latter part of the generation had early Gen X parents.

The Millennials started cancel culture and were a big part of #MeToo. A lot of Gen Z isn't 18 yet. The ones that are 18 are different from Millennials, but early Gen Z isn't changing that much. Gen Z likes LBGTQ stuff more than even Millennials did.
Hence my earlier quote: ;)
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

We have experienced very good times after world war two in term of life standards and human development since then, and thing has been booming since, but with that our society has also weakened to the stat it is now. So it follow the cycles of that quote perfectly in my opinion.
 

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Hence my earlier quote: ;)
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
Let's apply that to generations in the United States. @PowerQuest -- I see you are in Denmark. Western European men have definitely weakened over time. European men have weakened so much that European men have become completely cucked. The United States isn't much better than Europe. I have been unimpressed at how weak Western European men have become.

The GI Generation (1910s-first half of 1920s births) dealt with The Great Depression and World War II during their formative years. The men of the late 1910s/early 1920s fought in World War II. They were also key in creating the post World War II good times.

The Silent Generation (late 1920s-1945 births) was a mixed outcome generation. A good portion of the generation was old enough to remember The Great Depression and World War II, though they weren't fighting in them. The latter part of the generation (1937-1945) was the first to take advantage of the good times of 1950s/1960s since they were the youngest adults in a large part of that time. The birth control pill was invented in 1960 and Silent Generation women were using it before the oldest Baby Boomer women could use it. In the media, many of the characters on Mad Men were decent fictional representations of The Silent Generation. Don Draper (born 1926) would have been borderline GI/Silent. Joan Holloway (born 1931) and Peter Campbell (born 1934) are more classic Silents, especially Peter Campbell. Peggy Olson (born 1939) is a Silent who is a groundbreaking early career woman. Her type would be more commonly seen in the Baby Boomer generation. The Silents were stronger but weakening. The Silent Generation was the first generation to get no fault divorce. The 1970s divorces were mainly Silent Generation members with their young Gen X children.

The Baby Boomers (1946-1964 births) were raised in the prosperity of post World War II era. The Boomers would have been the classic good times create weak men generation. Some later Boomers graduated into the economic malaise of the late 1970s but those Boomers had it better than the Millennials who were graduating into the late 2000s economic mess. The Boomers were the first big generation to divorce and their divorces mainly happened between 1985-2002, affecting their Millennial children during the 1990s. It was the Boomers' idea to start "Participation Trophies" and "Self-Esteem Building" building into 1990s parenting and schooling of their 1980s born Millennial children. The Boomers were raised by tough GI generation parents who often didn't care about their self-esteem so that was the intention behind why they did what they did.

Generation X (1965-1981 births) is a neglected generation. They often were the children of the smaller Silent Generation, as birth rates were lower in the 1930s due to The Great Depression. Additionally, the late 1960s-early 1980s had a lot of economic turmoil, including OPEC gas crises, inflation, stagflation, recessions, etc. HIV/AIDS came up in the 1980s affecting teen/young adult Gen X'ers. Some even graduated into the early 1990s recession, also a walk in the park compared to 2008. Gen X were the latchkey children of divorcee Silents. I'd call Gen X a weak generation but still stronger than subsequent generations.

The Millennials (1982-1996 births) are the classic weak men create hard times generation. The oldest Millennials remember the economic boom years of the 1990s that were mainly created upon an unsustainable house of cards. The Millennials born in the 1980s who remember the "good times" of the 1990s felt like they were sold a bill of goods. Their Boomer parents got to experience good times as adults but they didn't. 9/11 happened as the oldest Millennials were ending high school and going to college. Many of the first half of Millennials finished their highest level of educational attainment at The Great Recession was hitting in the late 2000s and continued into the early 2010s. COVID's economic impact also affected Millennials to a great degree. Millennials are a bit of a lost generation due to the hard times wiping out their early adulthood years.

I don't think Gen Z (1997-2012 births) is going to be a hard times create strong men generation. I see them fitting the mold of their Silent Generation grandparents as applied to current times.
 

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Let's apply that to generations in the United States. @PowerQuest -- I see you are in Denmark. Western European men have definitely weakened over time. European men have weakened so much that European men have become completely cucked. The United States isn't much better than Europe. I have been unimpressed at how weak Western European men have become.

The GI Generation (1910s-first half of 1920s births) dealt with The Great Depression and World War II during their formative years. The men of the late 1910s/early 1920s fought in World War II. They were also key in creating the post World War II good times.

The Silent Generation (late 1920s-1945 births) was a mixed outcome generation. A good portion of the generation was old enough to remember The Great Depression and World War II, though they weren't fighting in them. The latter part of the generation (1937-1945) was the first to take advantage of the good times of 1950s/1960s since they were the youngest adults in a large part of that time. The birth control pill was invented in 1960 and Silent Generation women were using it before the oldest Baby Boomer women could use it. In the media, many of the characters on Mad Men were decent fictional representations of The Silent Generation. Don Draper (born 1926) would have been borderline GI/Silent. Joan Holloway (born 1931) and Peter Campbell (born 1934) are more classic Silents, especially Peter Campbell. Peggy Olson (born 1939) is a Silent who is a groundbreaking early career woman. Her type would be more commonly seen in the Baby Boomer generation. The Silents were stronger but weakening. The Silent Generation was the first generation to get no fault divorce. The 1970s divorces were mainly Silent Generation members with their young Gen X children.

The Baby Boomers (1946-1964 births) were raised in the prosperity of post World War II era. The Boomers would have been the classic good times create weak men generation. Some later Boomers graduated into the economic malaise of the late 1970s but those Boomers had it better than the Millennials who were graduating into the late 2000s economic mess. The Boomers were the first big generation to divorce and their divorces mainly happened between 1985-2002, affecting their Millennial children during the 1990s. It was the Boomers' idea to start "Participation Trophies" and "Self-Esteem Building" building into 1990s parenting and schooling of their 1980s born Millennial children. The Boomers were raised by tough GI generation parents who often didn't care about their self-esteem so that was the intention behind why they did what they did.

Generation X (1965-1981 births) is a neglected generation. They often were the children of the smaller Silent Generation, as birth rates were lower in the 1930s due to The Great Depression. Additionally, the late 1960s-early 1980s had a lot of economic turmoil, including OPEC gas crises, inflation, stagflation, recessions, etc. HIV/AIDS came up in the 1980s affecting teen/young adult Gen X'ers. Some even graduated into the early 1990s recession, also a walk in the park compared to 2008. Gen X were the latchkey children of divorcee Silents. I'd call Gen X a weak generation but still stronger than subsequent generations.

The Millennials (1982-1996 births) are the classic weak men create hard times generation. The oldest Millennials remember the economic boom years of the 1990s that were mainly created upon an unsustainable house of cards. The Millennials born in the 1980s who remember the "good times" of the 1990s felt like they were sold a bill of goods. Their Boomer parents got to experience good times as adults but they didn't. 9/11 happened as the oldest Millennials were ending high school and going to college. Many of the first half of Millennials finished their highest level of educational attainment at The Great Recession was hitting in the late 2000s and continued into the early 2010s. COVID's economic impact also affected Millennials to a great degree. Millennials are a bit of a lost generation due to the hard times wiping out their early adulthood years.

I don't think Gen Z (1997-2012 births) is going to be a hard times create strong men generation. I see them fitting the mold of their Silent Generation grandparents as applied to current times.
Talking about women, the millennial ones are the worst.

They get the entitlement from their mothers generation, the feminist crap of their own generation and now dont really mind to use social media for attention wh0ring as the zoomers.

I find myself much more comfortable to deal with early zoomers girls than millennial ones and not necessarily because of looks...most of them dont really mind my cynism and disobbedience toward rules while women my age still expect me to conform like our fathers did.
 

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Talking about women, the millennial ones are the worst.

They get the entitlement from their mothers generation, the feminist crap of their own generation and now dont really mind to use social media for attention wh0ring as the zoomers.
Yes, Millennial women are the worst. As an early Millennial man, most of my interactions have been with Millennial women, mainly in the first half of the Millennial generation (the 1980s born Millennials).

Let's not forget that by the time the first half of the Millennial generation was born in the 1980s, second wave feminism was already normalized. The first wave of feminism went through the early 1960s and then second wave feminism was from the early 1960s to mid 1980s, with the bulk of the activity in the 1960s/1970s. Millennial women's Baby Boomer mothers were the foot soldiers of feminism during their young adult years of late 1960s and 1970s.

Most women born between 1980-1989 are more radically feminist in their ideology than early feminist Betty Freidan and her writings in the late 1950s/early 1960s. A 1980s born woman who doesn't identify with feminism in a major way is more feminist than an early leader of feminism. Let that sink in for a moment.

Millennial women were social media attention whorres as far back as the prime of MySpace and the early days of Facebook. In 2004-06, when MySpace was at its peak and Facebook was coming up as the hot new college social network, early Millennial women were posting selfies on those networks and getting lots of Likes and Comments. Instagram took it to the next level in the 2010s.

Millennial women have been the most pet crazed women ever.

Millennial women have gotten more tattoos than Millennial men.

I find myself much more comfortable to deal with early zoomers girls than millennial ones and not necessarily because of looks...most of them dont really mind my cynism and disobbedience toward rules while women my age still expect me to conform like our fathers did.
I'm curious to see how Gen Z develops. The early Gen Z's turn 25 in 2022. Gen Z is at an interesting time right now since a good portion of the generation has now turned 18 but still a lot of the generation is in middle and high school right now.

I don't know what you mean by Millennial women expect you to conform. I'm not sure I've had the same experiences but if you articulate it more, perhaps I can relate.
 

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I'm curious to see how Gen Z develops. The early Gen Z's turn 25 in 2022. Gen Z is at an interesting time right now since a good portion of the generation has now turned 18 but still a lot of the generation is in middle and high school right now.
I personal thought is that they are even weaker than the Millennials which has also thought them leftism/communism angle to their children (makes them even weaker because it has and is a proven failed ideology), and the hard times has not started yet. what we seen with the 2008 financial crisis is just foretaste, an tasty aperitif if you will of what is coming.

With US astronomical debt which never can be repaid hard times will comes that will make the depression of the 30'tes look like the best party in the history of mankind.

When that hits (higher inflation is already here and it is not going to go away mind you..) - well that's is when the cycle starts all over with strong men.
 

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Gen X were the latchkey children of divorcee Silents. I'd call Gen X a weak generation but still stronger than subsequent generations.
Actually I think that was the last generation to learnt to be self dependent and take care of themselves as they had no parents when they came home to take care of them. They could freely go around with friends outside and do whatever they wanted without any supervision from their parents - and this was perfectly normal. Not even the authorities thought it was strange.. (which you cannot say today, right?)

They had to do it themselves which makes them stronger and gave them a high drive to wanting to succeed in life. No curling parents to tuck them in etc.

Remember that many X-geners went on to be entrepreneurs and started huge companies that still drives the industry. They were also part of the internet boom and were there to strongly influence the development up to this day and still are.

Not as strong maybe as their hardcore Gung-Ho GI-Joe special ops grand-dad that killed German Nazis during the war and fought for our freedom, but they sort of had the favors of the legacy from those generations which made them stronger too.
 

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Yes, Millennial women are the worst. As an early Millennial man, most of my interactions have been with Millennial women, mainly in the first half of the Millennial generation (the 1980s born Millennials).

Let's not forget that by the time the first half of the Millennial generation was born in the 1980s, second wave feminism was already normalized. The first wave of feminism went through the early 1960s and then second wave feminism was from the early 1960s to mid 1980s, with the bulk of the activity in the 1960s/1970s. Millennial women's Baby Boomer mothers were the foot soldiers of feminism during their young adult years of late 1960s and 1970s.

Most women born between 1980-1989 are more radically feminist in their ideology than early feminist Betty Freidan and her writings in the late 1950s/early 1960s. A 1980s born woman who doesn't identify with feminism in a major way is more feminist than an early leader of feminism. Let that sink in for a moment.

Millennial women were social media attention whorres as far back as the prime of MySpace and the early days of Facebook. In 2004-06, when MySpace was at its peak and Facebook was coming up as the hot new college social network, early Millennial women were posting selfies on those networks and getting lots of Likes and Comments. Instagram took it to the next level in the 2010s.

Millennial women have been the most pet crazed women ever.

Millennial women have gotten more tattoos than Millennial men.



I'm curious to see how Gen Z develops. The early Gen Z's turn 25 in 2022. Gen Z is at an interesting time right now since a good portion of the generation has now turned 18 but still a lot of the generation is in middle and high school right now.

I don't know what you mean by Millennial women expect you to conform. I'm not sure I've had the same experiences but if you articulate it more, perhaps I can relate.
I honestly thought I was going crazy thinking I was the problem when I’ve tried to date millennial women. I’ve had the absolute worst luck with them, I honestly thought I had all these issues and reasons why I wasn’t good enough for them. However I’ve dated some gen x and gen z women and they treat me FAR better, I have tons of success with them. It’s weird because I’m on the cusp of the millennial and gen x but yet I get along fine with gen x and gen z women. I’ve also noticed that 99% of the millennial women I’ve had in my life are narcissist but I don’t see those same toxic behaviors in gen z or x women. Millennial women constantly find stuff wrong with me.
 

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Here is prime example of why the western civilization is going right down the drain with the weaker Millennial and Generation Z:

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OMG... This so retarded.
"emojiself", "catgender"?? WTF!?

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I give up, our civilization is done... Sigh...
 
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I honestly thought I was going crazy thinking I was the problem when I’ve tried to date millennial women. I’ve had the absolute worst luck with them, I honestly thought I had all these issues and reasons why I wasn’t good enough for them. However I’ve dated some gen x and gen z women and they treat me FAR better, I have tons of success with them. It’s weird because I’m on the cusp of the millennial and gen x but yet I get along fine with gen x and gen z women. I’ve also noticed that 99% of the millennial women I’ve had in my life are narcissist but I don’t see those same toxic behaviors in gen z or x women. Millennial women constantly find stuff wrong with me.
Millennial women are a tough group to date even if you're doing everything correct with game and seduction.

One of the forefathers of game and seduction was Ross Jeffries, who is a late Boomer. Ross Jeffries in the 1980s/1990s was dealing mainly with Boomer and first half of Gen X women. David DeAngelo, Mystery, Neil Strauss, and others from the late 1990s/2000s were born between 1965-1974 (first half of Gen X) and dealt mainly with Gen X women in their heyday. Roosh was late Gen X'er and dealt mainly with other late Gen X'ers and the earliest of Millennials while he had a microbiology career and was seduction blogging on the side (2003-2007) prior to writing Bang (his first full length book) in 2007. It wasn't until Roosh went to Eastern Europe full time in the 2010s that he was dealing with Millennial aged women. Roosh would get some credit for dealing with Millennials.

A lot of Millennials are not young anymore. The oldest of the Millennials are now turning 40 and a good portion of them are 35-40. The 18-25 year olds now are Gen Z. A lot of these 35-40 year old Millennial women still have the high standards that they had 10 years ago. They also have the participation trophy and self-esteem is so important mentality that they had from 1990s era Boomer parenting/school programming. It wouldn't be uncommon to see a 37 year old childless woman today posting butt selfies on Instagram and thinking she's a special snowflake.
 

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