(Recent Cnn article) Americans less likely to have sex, partner up and get married than ever

[Jack22]

No, its a sh|t show. Canada and Us is prime examples of it. Most of EU too. But as I just said. Political discussions on Sosuave is strictly forbidden so please change subject.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Funny. My manager at work just had COVID-19 two weeks ago.

You people are fanatical.

Sigh....

We're done.

 

[Zimbabwe]

The chances of that kid failing to successfully reproduce increase exponentially when left without a strong father figure that also provides a stable income as well as gives his offspring new opportunity through his own learned experiences and connections. The chances of them becoming a stable adult who gives back more than they take decreases dramatically. WELL WELL WHAT IF HE/SHE IS A F-BOY/SLUT? Who do you think is propping up these nitwits? Your average taxpayer, that's who.

Turn on the Tv, most shows and movies in the west normalise divorce and make it seem "hip" and "cool". The shows and movies also normalise promiscuity as well. You don't see many strong father figures in american made movies.

It's the complete opposite in Eastern Europe, divorce his still heavily stigmatised and female promiscuity is not encouraged by the media. The media instead promotes strong traditional family values.

Birth rates have been increasing in Eastern Europe, less and less people are getting divorced. The media needs to make tradition trendy for young people to follow it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a crime to be a straight male in the west soon with how things are going.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a crime to be a straight male in the west soon with how things are going.

Dude its impossible to continue that discussion without dragging in the political side of it because it is huge part of the issue.
So yeah lets change subject.

 

[forcerecon01]

Join the mgtow movement now.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Well at least we can laugh at Gillette for loosing 8 billion on their campaign.

Gillette ‘Shifting The Spotlight’ After Losing $8 Billion Amid ‘Toxic Masculinity’ Backlash | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

and have fun at that. Sadly they did not learn from it it seems.
But I'll stop there.

 

[sangheilios]

Every woman demands that men have a 6 pack, earn 6 figures and are 6feet tall. Statistically that's less then 0.01 percent of the global male population. These women have seriously warped views.

I'm 6'4", have an average income but approaching millionaire status and one of the fittest guys at the gym, been bulking for a few years so not super ripped.......and I was getting nothing for years and eventually gave up lol.

 

[Robert28]

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@PowerQuest
This is what happens when you don't complain, stop sitting around and doing nothing.

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To hear women tell it, you’d think every guy in America was out to rape them. They also lie about how guys act when they reject them.

 

[Jack22]

Turn on the Tv, most shows and movies in the west normalise divorce and make it seem "hip" and "cool". The shows and movies also normalise promiscuity as well. You don't see many strong father figures in american made movies.

It's the complete opposite in Eastern Europe, divorce his still heavily stigmatised and female promiscuity is not encouraged by the media. The media instead promotes strong traditional family values.

Birth rates have been increasing in Eastern Europe, less and less people are getting divorced. The media needs to make tradition trendy for young people to follow it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a crime to be a straight male in the west soon with how things are going.

It's not yet endemic to Eastern Europe yet because they're a collection of poor countries. Once they achieve a level of success in the upper classes, it'll begin to degrade. As Will Durant said in the book "Our Oriental Heritage",
If victory comes, if war is forgotten in security and peace, then wealth grows; the life of the body gives way, in the dominant classes, to the life of the senses and the mind; toil and suffering are replaced by pleasure and ease; science weakens faith even while thought and comfort weaken virility and fortitude. At last men begin to doubt the gods; they mourn the tragedy of knowledge, and seek refuge in every passing delight.
Achilles is at the beginning, Epicurus at the end. After David comes Job, and after Job, Ecclesiastes.”

What this basically means is, that once a society reaches a point where they have time to contemplate things other than their own survival, they degrade into a state of degeneracy. Greatness is only achieved when one has to struggle to achieve it. That's why first generation immigrants are often the most successful, and why the following generations fail to live up to their predecessors.

 

[Jack22]

Also, when you think about it, that's also why guys like us get laid the most. We suffered from lack of poon, so we had to work hard to get to some place where we didn't. We had to put in more effort than the average guy, but because we did so we also surpassed him.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

What this basically means is, that once a society reaches a point where they have time to contemplate things other than their own survival, they degrade into a state of degeneracy. Greatness is only achieved when one has to struggle to achieve it. That's why first generation immigrants are often the most successful, and why the following generations fail to live up to their predecessors.

True.
All civilizations goes through a very certain set of pre-determinated cycles and through it history repeats itself through these.
Even the highest and most developed modern civilization in the end - dies out. It is a certain fact and unavoidable.

And so, this will happen with our civilization too. It is just a matter of time. Once that happens another will will rise and start at the beginning of this repeating cycle.

 

[Jack22]

True.
All civilizations goes through a very certain cycles and history repeats itself through these where even the highest civilization in the end -dies out.

And so, this will happen with our too. It is just a matter of time. Once that happens another will will rise and start at the beginning of this repeating cycle.

I agree, to an extent. We've progressed so far technologically, that it isn't possible for us to degrade to a more primitive state of living like the dark ages after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. The only way that would happen is if every book in the world was burned and all previously known knowledge collected over the centuries were erased. The Eastern Roman Empire survived another 1000 years after the west fell. Why? Religion and strict adherence to tradition, as well as strong cultural differences that withstood the influence of the romans even after their occupation.

What does that mean for us today? Well, as you have said the past is repeating itself. Given enough time under an authoritarian boot, Russia and China will surpass the US because their governments understand the importance of the family. After Rome fell, the Renaissance built on the foundation laid out by the ruins of the past and launched us into a new era following the industrial revolution. Many roads in Europe used today still contain the original remnants laid by the Romans that are now buried below, so I don't think things will simply "crumble" and disappear.

We'll be badly beaten for some time, but we'll get up and brush ourselves off eventually.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Given enough time under a strong authoritarian boot,

We have authoritarian issues in all western societies now; don't forget that. (I don't think I need to mention the details and the issues because most of you I assume are already aware of it and what has happened over the last couple of years and further back). That will certainly help with our downfall as the "western civilization" degrades even more and eventually fails. (Sadly, but like true).

These cycles are to the tee. The study of cycles and statistic is a marvel if you take time to learn and study it.

Not even technology can save us on this, as it is right now they make it worse and speed up the process.

Remember also that one very unknown, but very important factor to the downfall of Rome was inflation; - Yes, crazy inflation which eventually lead to hyperinflation. It took over 800 years to come to fruition, but inflation was the one very thing that destroyed the Roman Empire. Many kings and emperors before Rome and after have felt the force of vengeance and revenge of inflation and have lost their reign/kingdoms because of that. Irony of that is that politicians still haven't learnt the lesson. Not even our modern politicians. Printing money out of the thin air is simply too temping to not be doing it.

Now the same is happening again. USA will never be able to repay its debt and the chickens are with 100% certainty coming home to roost. Period = Bye bye USA, (Which will drag rest the west with it as the financial system crumbles to an halt when it happens.).
As person with a long experience and professional background in the financial and banking world I could talk about this for hours, but I won't bore you and spare you for that.. But yes, its all brewing in the pot and the steam pressure is rising. An no matter what mainstream media and Biden attempts to persuade you to believe that inflation is a good thing, lol - It is all BS. Inflation is bad - very bad..

Remember that this process has already started and average people can start now feeling and seeing the high inflation now. It will not stop.

 

[Jack22]

@PowerQuest I think there's far too many variables for us to account for, there's no telling how things will go, but I admit your point. Things will most definitely take a turn for the worst before they get better. It must have been nice growing up as a dj in the 2000-2010 era, though. From my perspective, It seems like the late millennials and gen x cashed in their chips at the casino and walked out with a fortune. If you were semi-red pilled you got the experience of prime tinder years and maybe landed yourself some trad chick that isn't too crazy. It seems like it's gonna be pretty steep decline from there.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

It seems like it's gonna be pretty steep decline from there.

Sadly and as scary as it is, it seems so. It requires drastically changes to to turn this huge super tanker ship around. If not it will sink I'm afraid.

 

[Zimbabwe]

LGBTQ adults in U.S. has doubled over past decade, Gallup finds

Percentage of LGBTQ adults in U.S. has doubled over past decade, Gallup finds

If younger Americans continue to come out at increasing rates, Gallup predicts the proportion of adults who identify as LGBTQ will exceed 10 percent in the near future.

www.nbcnews.com

This is just sad, how far has America fallen.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I heard there is hunting season in the forest for LGBTQ and furries?

Lemme grab my gun..

 

[Kdw8]

People need to do something about it, users like @Kdw8 do nothing so that's why America has a very high divorce rate
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In North and West Europe, you have weak men who again don't complain and have very high divorce rates
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Do you guys want to continue pretending that "everything is fine" and ignoring the issues? If you want change you need to have your voices heard. Shutting down any complaints does not solve the root cause of the issue.

Haha I'm at fault for America's high divorce rates, good one emotional Jack a*s. Your concern sounds fake, toxic, and feminine.

Technically Isn't something being already "being done about it" with these stats of people marrying, coupling up, and f*cking LESS? Less marriage = less divorce. Less relationships = nothing leading to marriage.

Another way people can "do something about it" is by being better people, or stop participating in society and making others lives h*ll. Go hermit mode for the rest of your life if you need to

Also don't do sh*t to make your wife or husband hand you over some damn divorce papers or just don't get married . It's a two way street, that's why I have no sympathy or ever cared for the divorce argument. Sure alimony is f*cking dudes up, but why didn't you get a pre-nup to protect yourself, properties, money, assets? Did you fail to hold up your end of the bargain in the marriage? Why did that marriage end in the first place? Why are SO many marriages ending? Nobody can truthfully answer with data included why majority of these marriages are ending. That's why people crying about divorce, alimony, and "my ex is f*king me over" will forever be seen as a joke, because they only mentioned how the other (possibly scorned) person is doing everything in their power to f*ck with them, but not the factors to why the marriage ended, and why that person would want they'd want to f*ck with them .

Call me a fag, blue pilled,cuck, trash, simp. Man idc and not in the mood for it. I've seen 3 ugly divorces play out in my family one of them being my parent. and all of them were either along the lines of cheating and physcial abuse. I don't believe anybody should deal with some BS like that just to keep another person around.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Americans less likely to have sex, partner up and get married than ever

We're at a 30-year low for sex

Fewer Amercians are having sex.


Twenty-six percent of Americans ages 18 and up didn't have sex once over the past 12 months, according to the 2021 General Social Survey. You might think this is just a pandemic effect, but it's part of a long-term trend. The two years with next-highest percentage of adults saying they didn't have sex once in the past year were 2016 (23%) and 2018 (23%) -- the last two times the survey was conducted. Before 2004, the highest percentage of Americans who said they hadn't had sex in the past year was 19%.

Last year's survey was also the first time that the percentage of Americans who had sex once a month or less topped 50%. In 1989, 35% of American adults had sex once a month or less.

Some of this has to do with fewer people getting married and an aging population, but that doesn't explain all of it. Among married couples under the age of 60, 26% had sex once a month or less in 2021. In 1989, it was 12%. The 1980s really were better for sex.


We're at a 30-year low for living together

Fewer people are living together with a partner.


It's not just about sex. Some 62% of Americans ages 25 to 54 lived with a partner or were married, according to a 2021 Pew Research Center study of 2019 US Census Bureau data. This included 53% who were married and 9% who were cohabitating. That's well below the 71% of couples who lived together in 1990, with 67% married and 4% cohabitating.

You might think the growing share of unmarried people living without a spouse is due to rising educational levels among women who don't need the financial support of a man. The statistics tell a different story, though. Better educated people and higher wage earners are the most likely to live with a partner or be married. A lot of people won't get married if they don't think it's financially feasible, according to Pew polling.

There's also been a higher increase in unmarried men living alone (10 points) than women (7 points) compared to the 1990 baseline.

Partnership is at a low, not just marriage


Could it just be the case that people are still in relationships, but don't want to be tied down by either living together or being married? Yes, but the statistics suggest something else is cooking.

The General Social Survey has, on and off since 1986, asked participants whether they had a steady partner. This past year, 30% of adults ages 25 to 54 (the same age bracket as the Pew study) indicated that they did not have a steady partner. In 1986, it was 20%. In fact, the percentage of 25- to 54-year-olds who said they didn't have a steady partner never topped 23% prior to the 2010s. It's been 25% or above in every survey since.

Interestingly, as the population ages and more Baby Boomers have gotten above the age of 55, the percentage of older folks in a relationship has stayed fairly steady -- in the mid-to-high 60s on average.

That means this trend toward singledom is more about young people than older people. It's the same with sex: The percentage of those age 55 and older not having any sex in the last year (40%) is about the same as it was 30 years ago.


The divorce rate is dropping


If there is one thing good about declining marriage and partner rates, it's that it seems people are less likely to run headlong into a marriage that has a high probability of failing.

The rate of divorces and annulments was at its lowest level this century in 2019, according to the CDC/NCHS National Vital Statistics System. There were 2.7 divorces and annulments per 1,000 people in the population. That's down from 4 per 1,000 in the year 2000.

It shouldn't be surprising, therefore, that the divorce rate among young adults has seen the sharpest drop. This is the group that is least likely to marry, and those who do seem to be doing a better job of going into a marriage that has a good chance of succeeding.

Maybe one day I'll be one of those lucky ones in a successful marriage. A boy can hope. Can't he?

Lower divorce is caused less marriage and more rp aware men. The roi is rubbish. Rubbish when at any stage a woman can pull the pin on the grenade that is marriage wrecking you as well as the kids.

 

[Kdw8]

Whatever you say, ya blue-pilled cuck fag.

I’ll be that. Funny how you read my post from top to bottom, didn’t refute any of my points. Bitter f*ck.