Rollo: "Men reach peak SMV around age 36" ... Do you agree?

[TheProspect]

-Discussion questions at the end-

My current SMV:
I am 28. Physically, I'm in pretty good shape. Sitting at a lean 183lbs, height just a hair under 5'10. I shave my head (fortunately, head shape suits it). Financial situation currently sucks (no assets, no savings, 60k student loan debt), first year out of university, I'll probably make a little over 60k this year from all my incomes combined. I do have what you could call localized "status" within my social circle as a fitness & yoga instructor, which has helped with social proof...

All things considered, at my age, I do quite alright with meeting and attracting women. Most of my prospects come from my social circle; I don't use OLD or social media (which maybe limits my opportunities?).

My confidence grows more and more each year, and I believe my confidence has been a force multiplier when it comes to attracting women. I interact with a lot good looking girls regularly as a group fitness and yoga instructor, which undoubtedly has improved my social skills as well as comfort & confidence around hot women. My game is pretty tight in the initial seduction phases, but I struggle to maintain frame in LTRs once I get emotionally invested after a few months.

My last GF, who I recently broke up with, was 22 y/o and at least a 9 (and not an exaggerated 9). My confidence, social skills, and localized social proof played a large role in attracting her (and of course a bit of timing/luck, like anything). That being said, when I pull, I usually pull 6's and 7's, with my previous girlfriends being in that range as well. I ain't pulling 8's and above often.

With my financial situation, I have never been perceived as a provider. As a result, I have never ran into the problem of dealing with gold diggers or women who are using me just for a free meal. I can see how my financial position at my age could eventually cause concerns in the minds of some girls who are looking for a long-term partner. I often think about that myself. Being that I want to be a father someday, I sometimes feel so behind when it comes to my finances, because I want to be able to provide a good life for my future family...

I am about 8 years away from age 36, the apparent peak SMV for a man. I believe I can accomplish a lot in those 8 years, specifically when it comes to improving my finances. Once I get my money right, I can only imagine what that would do for my SMV and my life as I experience the freedom of more choice that money can bring.

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Rollo states that men generally reach their peak SMV around age 36.

1) Do you agree or disagree that men reach their peak SMV around age 36?
2) What has your personal experience and observations been with SMV as you aged?

Discuss.

 

[2Rocky]

Don't get hung up on a SPECIFIC number. Mid thirties your experience in the workforce and dating pool combined with your testosterone and earning abilities are at their peak. That's the reason for the Mid life crisis. You see it slipping away as your metabolism slows and your career plateaus. So work on SUSTAINING growth in those parts of your life. Keep working out, learn new skills, follow new career opportunities that build on your experiences.

 

[Kotaix]

I disagree. I'm in better physical and financial shape now than when I was 36, and I'm not blue pilled like I was back then

 

[SW15]

Rollo states that men generally reach their peak SMV around age 36.

1) Do you agree or disagree that men reach their peak SMV around age 36?

I disagree. Most men in their 30s are pusssy beggars for women close to their own ages. Most 34-38 year old men do not have early to mid-20s girlfriends as most men in their mid-to-late 30s desire.

2) What has your personal experience and observations been with SMV as you aged?

The grind has still been the grind. Having a little bit higher salary has helped slightly but I have not experienced a massive SMV increase in my mid-to-late 30s.

 

[TheProspect]

I disagree. I'm in better physical and financial shape now than when I was 36, and I'm not blue pilled like I was back then

I think becoming red pilled, regardless of age, has a significant positive impact on SMV. Upon becoming red pilled, you learn game and understand women better, which of course increases your SMV as your social skills & intelligence increase.

For many guys, this happens much later in life. It makes sense why a man red pilled at 50 could do much better in the sexual market place compared to the 36 year old version of himself who was an uncalibrated blue pilled simp.

 

[metalwater]

you already have heard about sour milk and fine wine...

this is another category where it is 80/20 or 90/10. 80 percent of the men hit best SMV between 25 and 35. 20 or 10 percent hit best SMV between 40 and 50 or 55. A few hit best at 18 to 25.

I think the goal SHOULD be to hit the best SMV later in life, meaning to continue getting better until the body fails you. You will lose some attraction from a few young girls, and gain attraction from many more that are a little older. By the numbers, the most desired men are the top men in the later age brackets, except for the few young ones that are able to get fame. Fame trumps all.

 

[Billtx49]

1) Do you agree or disagree that men reach their peak SMV around age 36?
2) What has your personal experience and observations been with SMV as you aged?

Quality men age like a fine wine or liquor. It’s not unknown to me for a 55 y.o. man to be banging a 39 y.o. hb 8-9 3 times a week.
Recognize your quality and improve it over time…

 

[spred]

I am 44, I am in a much better position than at 35. Career wise, financially, social status. Some reply above says that men in their 30s are pussies, I can agree looking back at my life experience. At 35 I was getting attention from 20-30 years old women, now I get it from 20-50 years old women. Since my age is showing more, I'm getting adressed more as "Sir", which I see has a greater impact on women nearby.

 

[oc16]

I am 44, I am in a much better position than at 35. Career wise, financially, social status. Some reply above says that men in their 30s are pussies, I can agree looking back at my life experience. At 35 I was getting attention from 20-30 years old women, now I get it from 20-50 years old women. Since my age is showing more, I'm getting adressed more as "Sir", which I see has a greater impact on women nearby.

Amen! I am 44 as well (45 in three weeks) and my financial situation is much better than it was 10 years ago.

My physical fitness is still just as good and I feel like I still get attention from women up to 20 years younger.

 

[The Duke]

When I hit my early 40's I felt like had the world at my finger tips. My options with women were the best they had ever been.

 

[Plinco]

what about girls 18 to 21?

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Depends on the man. Many peak in highschool.

 

[eli77]

I always said 40 is the new 30 maybe even the new 20 depending on who you are

 

[Dash Riprock]

No, much later if you take care of yourself physically and have $. Super easy to pull and lay much younger women.

 

[Snag87]

I know a lot of single men who were more sexually successful in their 30s than their 20s. The problem is they were bedding women in their 30s...

 

[Snag87]

Has anyone seen the average 36 year old American male? Grey hairs, dad bods, balding/bald, poor sense of style.

SMV doesn't peak at 36 on average. If you selected for men who have it together, maybe. Most 18-23 year old women wouldn't touch a 36 year old with a 10 foot pole.

 

[oc16]

That's good for me then.

44, 6 feet tall, in shape, little gray and full head of hair.

Yes, many men 35+ look like ****, which baffles my mind.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Every case is different. You can always imrpove but at some point age will limit some stuff. Wanna meet a virgin, or a college girl, or an 18 year old, Its gonna be hard (but not impossible) at 36+, peaking or not.

 

[B80]

That's good for me then.

44, 6 feet tall, in shape, little gray and full head of hair.

Yes, many men 35+ look like ****, which baffles my mind.

Doesn't baffle me, it takes effort to keep looking good. As others mentioned, most men don't look in great shape, either fat or skinny fat, or ones that do excercise tends to be cv, so not in particularly good shape, aesthetics wise. Maybe if living in city like London, NY, LA higher % of men pay attention to style, but in most towns I see men walking around wearing stone washed ill fitting jeans with sports trainers (sneakers).

Most are busy with job they hate, then go home for family stuff and then watch tv all night. Issue is if marriage breaks down it takes a lot of work/effort to turn things around as life and their choices have ground them into submission. Shadows of their former selves basically.

If you're mid 30's+ and in great shape (ripped), well dressed, 6"0 plus, hair, above average facially, half energetic/good personality (not jaded, miserable) and earning strong money you;re in a very small minority for that age range, which diminishes further with each passing year.

Most people just joke about how they used to be ripped, great shape etc but age caught up with them. True it becomes slightly harder with passing years, but examples show it most definitely is possible to do if you keep on top of diet/excercise, so I just think 'yes whatever, heard it a million times before. you just became another washed up chip, floating along in the sewer of life'.

 

[Snag87]

That's good for me then.

44, 6 feet tall, in shape, little gray and full head of hair.

Yes, many men 35+ look like ****, which baffles my mind.

Yea, I look at guys my age with disgust. No excuse for it...