I dont understand the swinger/ cuckold thing

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I think it's simple boredom. I've used the adultfriendfinder site in the past and the place is full of couples who would appear to be relatively normal and well-adjusted. The men in the couples didn't seem particularly low-t and some were obviously the "macho" type. For what it's worth, the women in the couples were generally more attractive than the single women on the site.
Yeh man I suspect it is boredom too. So I guess marital sex is so boring that they have to resort to watching their life partner get railed by some stranger. This is reason 1000 that I will never get married. Married guys do not have fulfilling sex lives lol.
 

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CONFESSION OF A WICKED CUCKOLD.
Oh no Pandora don't tighten that rack any more you're pulling me freakin arms off!
Mercy Deezebra,not another lash of that cat'o'nine tails,I'll never wear a swimming costume again...SW15 don't ram that rod with a hand grenade on its end where I think you intend....I've had enough Guys,I'll spill the beans ...Yes I have had many threesomes,as many foursomes a few fivesomes the odd orgy...Yes,sorry but I enjoyed them enormously...Yes,sorry again but I will do it all again,first chance I get....As long as old Scarra has enough breath to cool his porridge and lead in his pencil to please a Lady he will,it's fun!
 
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CONFESSION OF A WICKED CUCKOLD.
Oh no Pandora don't tighten that rack any more you're pulling me freakin arms off!
Mercy Deezebra,not another lash of that cat'o'nine tails,I'll never wear a swimming costume again...SW15 don't ram that rod with a hand grenade on its end where I think you intend....I've had enough Guys,I'll spill the beans ...Yes I have had many threesomes,as many foursomes a few fivesomes the odd orgy...Yes,sorry but I enjoyed them enormously...Yes,sorry again but I will do it all again,first chance I get....As long as old Scarra has enough breath to cool his porridge and lead in his pencil to please a Lady he will,it's fun!
Lol that's awesome man. Good for you. I have never had any threesomes etc. My issue was mainly when a guy gets off on watching his get smashed.
 

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Clarey is really cool. I bought his book Enjoy the Decline waaaayyy back in the day. I don't know who Troy is. You don't like Coach Greg Adams??
I don't follow him. I don't listen to mgtow content. I'm cynic enough
 

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I was gobsmacked when I realised how many local women had done some kind of escort service,
It's even more hilarious that some dork is playing house and marrying that.

No fan of jack Murphy but the amount of morons doing 3 hour podcasts and talking about game after is comedy central.

I don't care about how anybody lives their life. I am well aware of the epidemic of low t soy boys and girlie men. The concerted effort to emasculate men, to weaponize women, the removal of men in the household. The attack on men and masculinity as well as family court becomes very clear especially in the west over the past few years. The msg is loud and clear.

There's only 1 enemy. Feminism, modern women, the slave mind that Tate Bros bang on about is so prevalent, you are forced to take drastic actions. I came here looking for answers. I'm still searching but I am well aware of the game. I'm more convinced that men must pursue brighter pursuits.

Anything that is a obstacle to freedom is the enemy. A better question is wtf does it take for a man to think this is OK?
 

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In the Manosphere, Caleb Jones (Blackdragon) has been an advocate for open relationships/non-mongamous relationships. The first link below is a Caleb Jones (Blackdragon) link. Open relationships/non-monogamous relationships could be considered a form a cuckoldry. Some would argue that cuckoldry does not exist in open relationships because adultery does not exist. The dictionary definition of a cuckold is the husband of an unfaithful wife. The concept of faithfulness and fidelity only exists in monogamous relationships. Open relationships/non-monogamy might not technically be cuckoldry but in effect it feels a lot like cuckoldry. Most men do their primary open/poly relationship poorly, and the woman is getting more non-primary partner penis than the man is getting non-primary vagina
Only cucks would tolerate this. Hell i didn't know miller is a cuck. You made me aware. It's ****ed. They have the data yet sign up for their own cucking.

Literally I don't comprehend it. The concept is incomprehensible. I will add to it, in the before times, not virgin was ultimate deal breaker EVEN IF RAPEY. I am talking historically. From this perspective, anything but virgin is cucked.

Marriage is cucked. For all the chest beating and posturing on the YouTubes, majority are playing house, no receipts, and the ones floating around ain't pretty. One guy e bragging about being a cuck and dorks piling on in 3 hour podcasts about it. God forbid somebody (not troy Francis ) approaches &&& pulls.

I don't want to live On this planet anymore. SRS. Lulz!

Swinging, another non-monogamy option, feels a lot like cuckoldry.
!+1

I was on spring break once upon a time. This was before learning game and doing pickup.

Met a couple on a night out. Invited back for drinks. At no stage was there any ****ery. It went weird real fast. Keep in mind, this wasn't OLD apps or only fans. I think MySpace and yahoo messenger were still a thing. She was hot. I was mortified. The dude wanted to watch me **** his girl.

I ended up puking having partied way too hard and it was all too weird for me. Keep in mind, I wasn't aware of female nature or game. Hell I actually dated still back then. Started learning game not long after.

in fairness, I think our lifestyle in choice has opened our eyes in more ways than one. I suspect that insanity was always prevalent but debauchery wasn't as socially acceptable in society.

society is carnival folk now. Fat as ****kkk and the bearded lady is common place now as is the village bicycle.


PUA Nick Krauser has called Caleb Jones a giant cuck.

I don't disagree but there's far too many boomers making call outs. AK just went off on one. You can't flamethrower brands and be shocked when somebody throws down.

The space is annoying as is the in fighting and lack of receipts.

If mods wouldn't ban me my avi would be a receipt just to flex. More receipts in said avi than the entire YouTube Lulz!
 

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I suspect it is boredom too. I guess marital sex is so boring that they have to resort to watching their life partner get railed by some stranger. This is reason 1000 that I will never get married. Married guys do not have fulfilling sex lives lol.
Here's how it typically happens. Male and female meets. For 2-3 years, there's a romantic interaction. Sex is plentiful. Male feels the need to lock down this good pusssy situation. Engagement ring happens. Wedding happens around the 2-3 year mark. Sex still plentiful for the first 2-3 years after the wedding. Then, if no kids, boredom sets in. If kids in first 2-3 years, kids take over everything. For the next 2-3 years, less sex, more boredom. Then either an affair, divorce, or just ongoing boredom. Ongoing boredom is where people do swinging/poly/open relationships.

After the exciting phases of the relationship (bf-gf stage and initial 2 years or so of marriage), the relationship stinks. However, 2x a month married sex is better than being a near incel, which a lot of beta males would be without a wife.

Few of my married friends have said anything about their sex lives to me. A non-married guy I know in an 8 year long relationship said a few years ago (2019, pre-pandemic) that boredom had set in and sex frequency had dropped. I don't know why he didn't leave then. My social circle had multiple marriages in 2017 so we're probably coming up on the boredom phase in the 2017 marriages.

Marriage is cucked. For all the chest beating and posturing on the YouTubes, majority are playing house, no receipts, and the ones floating around ain't pretty. One guy e bragging about being a cuck and dorks piling on in 3 hour podcasts about it. God forbid somebody (not troy Francis ) approaches &&& pulls.

I don't want to live On this planet anymore. SRS. Lulz!
The definition of married man is a man playing house. Relationships have a shelf life of goodness in most cases that is no more than 5 years. In a relationship, there are ways to slow down the time it takes for boredom to set in (not living together, not seeing each other nearly daily after 1.5-2 years, etc). Even still, it's difficult to keep the passion fires burning beyond 5 years.

I was on spring break once upon a time. This was before learning game and doing pickup.

Met a couple on a night out. Invited back for drinks. At no stage was there any ****ery. It went weird real fast. Keep in mind, this wasn't OLD apps or only fans. I think MySpace and yahoo messenger were still a thing. She was hot. I was mortified. The dude wanted to watch me **** his girl.

I ended up puking having partied way too hard and it was all too weird for me. Keep in mind, I wasn't aware of female nature or game. Hell I actually dated still back then. Started learning game not long after.

in fairness, I think our lifestyle in choice has opened our eyes in more ways than one. I suspect that insanity was always prevalent but debauchery wasn't as socially acceptable in society.
Wow, you were about 18 then and you got an invitation to rail some dude's wife. Impressive! You did the right thing by getting too shiitfaced on alcohol, puking, and not doing the whole thing.

Hell i didn't know miller is a cuck
For those who don't know who @DEEZEDBRAH is talking about, here is Geoffrey Miller, PhD at University of New Mexico and professiorial cuck.

 

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The world is a very fcked up place ! I don’t do the bar scene much anymore. Most of the time I go to the bar... I am not looking for a hook up at all.... I just want an epic cheat meal and some beers to relax. In the last 3-4 years I’ve probably had close to ten different chicks start talking to me... and let me know their husband/bF likes to watch.... I recall two of them actually said that while their husband or whoever he was... was sitting right next to her. That usually creates a weird moment where I feel like the guy is now hitting on me. Like hey... I’m bob... my wife is really into you.... so... what’s your sign?? I have done an Irish exit 100 percent of those times !
Ive been propositioned a few times, too, and yeah it always feels like the man is hitting on me rather than the woman. Thats what really turns me off.
 

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PUA Nick Krauser has called Caleb Jones a giant cuck.

Dude I used to love Caleb Jones stuff. I even bought his book Alpha Male 2.0 years and years ago.

The book was basically the free agent lifestyle. It was decent. It gave good advice on starting your own business and how to deal with women etc.
Once Krauser exposed Caleb Jones as a giant cuck, it became difficult to take him seriously.
 

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I know guys who are into it. They are invariably unannounced homosexuals.

No Straight Man could possibly enjoy being in the same room as another man during sex.

As I've told you in previous threads, homosexuals also regularly have sex with women - they do this by pretending they don't want to have sex with a woman, but they'll make this 1 exception just once (woman's ego explodes) - telling a woman you're gay is a powerful self-disqualifying neg . It's a form of Game. That's why gay men were traditionally seen as a corrosive element on society and culture - women love them. Straight men noticed this and (justifiably, imo) attempted to remove the gay lifestyle from society.
Sounds like bro science. Straight guys being experts on gay sexuality.
 

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Ancient wisdom, my gay friend.

Gays weren't traditionally disliked because they like having sex with other men. That is incredibly naive to think that.

Any normal straight guy be like "this fine bro. Go be gay over there. I won't bother you." - That's the natural response to it.

Gay guys are disliked because they spread their STD's and lifestyle diseases into the straight community, via women. Gays are often disease-ridden because their lifestyles ruin their immune systems, taking immune system lowering drugs like "poppers" to relax their sphinctas.
Ancient Greeks were ok with it.

Here some low IQ bro science. Watching UFC is gay because you watch guys fighting in underwear.

Having attractive guy friends is gay. Don't ask it is obvious.

If you are violent it is because you are gay because you want to to go to jail and do gay things.

Do not be in denial you are gay because I say so

Gays have sex with women because I say so

Bisexualism is a conspiracy theory. Yes they are gay
 

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You've gone into the classic dialectic that all gay men go into.

"We are all gay, bro. Everyone is gay. Cope with it."

I love how predictable you faggots are
That is gay. You think you are an expert on gayness but you are not.

Here some data for your broscience:


If it says you are gay then you are gay. Do not lie to yourself.
Do not enjoy watsching guys fight in underwear. It is wrong

Do not have a gay haircut btw

 

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This is why "gay" culture is so scary, especially for kids.

"You are gay. We know you are gay. We have special technology that says you are gay. You believe science don't you? Science says that we are all gay."
Right why should we ever believe in science on the flat earth?
You believe in your bro science don't you?

Btw why are you so soft on the gays you can be harder?
 

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When I lived with a poly couple in 2018 I do think the husband got off on hearing about his wife’s exploits. I didn’t really care as anytime I wasn’t with her I was with a different girl.

In the end, I don’t think the poly girl could handle the fact that I had other options. Her husband clearly wasn’t able to get other girls despite making lots of money and being quite muscular. He was just hopeless in mind set. Definitely learned a lot during those few months
 

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I do think the husband got off on hearing about his wife’s exploits.
Her husband clearly wasn’t able to get other girls
I can understand a married couple banging other people. I can't understand how a guy who's not banging other chicks can get turned on by his wife getting djcked down by other dudes. "Yeah, my woman wants other men's djcks in her, and not mine. That's so hot." I'll never understand it.
 

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I can understand a married couple banging other people. I can't understand how a guy who's not banging other chicks can get turned on by his wife getting djcked down by other dudes. "Yeah, my woman wants other men's djcks in her, and not mine. That's so hot." I'll never understand it.
When you give your money away you have less money. If your wife gets ****ed she still has the same amount of holes left. So what you lose is not clear.

Some people give all their money away. Life is just a story
 

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Dude, for the love of god please stop taking magic mushrooms and smoking DMT. Your gay hippy stuff is so old.
I know I am just distracting myself from my duties. I am done for now. Though I never done that stuff it is forbidden here but I plan to.
 

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I can understand a married couple banging other people. I can't understand how a guy who's not banging other chicks can get turned on by his wife getting djcked down by other dudes. "Yeah, my woman wants other men's djcks in her, and not mine. That's so hot." I'll never understand it.
Me either but the wife told me that she told her husband about our first date (which included a few hours of drunken car sex) and said he got very turn d in by it.

maybe it triggers a competition anxiety and then a guy feels like he has to out fvck the guy? I dunno
 

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When you give your money away you have less money. If your wife gets ****ed she still has the same amount of holes left. So what you lose is not clear.

Some people give all their money away. Life is just a story
This is the enlightened view. Women gonna cheat. Might as well accept it and be poly imo
 

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This is the enlightened view. Women gonna cheat. Might as well accept it and be poly imo
Men want to have dirty *****s for sex. At least she would earn the title. The dirty talk would be amazing. Not much limitations there. The brain is the biggest sexual organ.

She should be able to switch to being innocent btw.
 
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