Life as a High Value Male

[SmoothSmooth]

As a high smv male you will attract your own unique set of circumstances

this is for men that are good looking and have their **** together (6ft, 6figures etc). There are of course many men who are high smv who are average height and average money etc, but I’m talking about superficial appearance and how it relates to others behaviour

you will often get universal respect from kids and men that are younger than you - more specifically an intense admiration…like the being that cool uncle/superhero they aspire to be.

You will get IOI’s from high smv prime women (this doesn’t mean every woman will like you or IOIs will lead to anything)…but in general, you get IOI’s daily…more intense/direct in environments like clubs or the workplace…and the hot young 20 year old girls are approachable and do not get turned off by your displays of power (eg c0ckiness, bragging, dressing good etc)

The following people will hate you, especially if you display any signs of high self esteem or outward display of power -

-some women that are not high smv (especially older ones) and feel you do not validate them/treat them as good as higher smv women. some will have a real personal agenda against you, for no reason. They would only accept you as a complete shell of yourself, if you were more feminine, witheld any outward displays of power and acted with lower self esteem/seek their validation - they basically see you as nothing more than a measuring stick for their own smv. If you are good looking male, alpha, and succesful, they want to destroy you…because they resent what you represent (dominance)

-some men who have low self esteem or are out of touch with their own masculinity will also treat you with disdain and attack you in passive aggressive ways. It’s usually always passive aggressive and highly manipulative (sometimes hard to detect), often designed to poke at your confidence! These people may be disguised as friends

as a high smv male your life can sometimes be lonely - the only fruitful relationships can be younger men who seek your mentorship, other high value men (although naturally they will be equally independant, narcissistic and busy…unless you have a shared goal), or high smv women that you’re sleeping with

Since many men bond over ‘mediocrity’ and shared failures…as a high smv man, your upbeat attitude, dominance and desire to win will often turn people off. Most high smv guys can superficially charm people but are lonely and dedicated to their craft - see Kobe Bryant

The only way to really build friendships is with other high smv men that are working towards a similar goal as yourself (eg building a business together, sport team members etc)

my advice to high smv men is to focus on yourself and keep a low profile in public. All interactions should be ‘nice’ and not opinionated. Only show ‘alphaness ’ around close male friends or girls that are clearly attracted to you. Because of what you represent (dominance), you are a force - so People that like you, will REALLY like you. Anyone that doesn’t clearly REALLY like you, isn’t on your side and sees you as a threat. With average guys, people can be ‘on the fence’/impartial and it can develop into something more …but with high smv men, people either love you or hate you from the start…and with those that love you (male or female) there will be an INSTANT connection. The girls will be extra receptive and the men will be instantly open. Do not force anything.

So when you’re in public, hide your alpha. This isn’t high school…In the real world, winners/jocks are resented by many. Good looking and successful guys that are shy/nice/low profile are loved by society because they boost people’s self esteem. These guys don’t get laid (unless in the context of beta bux), but they are liked.

But when you’re confident, dominant, aloof, arrogant or ‘too smart’/opinionated you will rub many people the wrong way…save it for the people that really like you and what you represent…it is the ‘x factor’ thats get you laid with the hotties and helps you bond with other alpha males but needs to kept under wraps


interested to hear the experiences of others

 

[metalwater]

high SMV and greed get what you tell and describe.

high SMV together with kind/responsible gets treated very well by all men, women, and children except for the ones that are like you describe. the greedy ones are jealous that they will never be like that.

red pill teaches how to recognize the differences.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

high SMV and greed get what you tell and describe.

high SMV together with kind/responsible gets treated very well by all men, women, and children except for the ones that are like you describe. the greedy ones are jealous that they will never be like that.

red pill teaches how to recognize the differences.

High smv and kind/responsible = gets you liked but not laid…this is why game exists
Arrogance and dominance gets you laid

 

[Jack22]

high SMV and greed get what you tell and describe.

high SMV together with kind/responsible gets treated very well by all men, women, and children except for the ones that are like you describe. the greedy ones are jealous that they will never be like that.

red pill teaches how to recognize the differences.

People take advantage of your kindness, men and women alike. It's very important to have a spine and know when to say "no, go 4uck yourself." I've had friends turn on me for being too nice, suddenly thinking they're better than you because they don't have any morals. Don't throw pearls before swine, kindness is a sweet that should be shared sparingly, to those who deserve the treat as a reward.

 

[metalwater]

People take advantage of your kindness, men and women alike. It's very important to have a spine and know when to say "no, go 4uck yourself." I've had friends turn on me for being too nice, suddenly thinking they're better than you because they don't have any morals. Don't throw pearls before swine, kindness is a sweet that should be shared sparingly, to those who deserve the treat as a reward.

I agree with that to a point. A difference between being a simp to all and being fair with others while paying attention to details. Don't be a sucker is something I agree with. Don't treat others with respect, is something that is dangerous; literally. It's easy to evolve into a mindset where it seems to make sense to out alpha everyone, and the fact that some women will reward that makes it even more appealing. It's like a deal with the devil.

friends is another topic. peace through strength is a good default way.

 

[metalwater]

High smv and kind/responsible = gets you liked but not laid…this is why game exists
Arrogance and dominance gets you laid

yep. that is dead right....

at some point, it is about self-love and enjoying one's own presence. the rest of it is just choices.

I understand it now. I know how to do it.

The few men that I have known in the past that I continue to remember having very high respect for followed the kind/responsible model. In both cases, they EASILY could dominate the other way and elected not. They got laid as often as they wanted and had the respect of almost everyone. They did not have 1k notch counts, they had small counts with VERY HIGH QUALITY.

It was/is not a lack of ability, it is a choice. This is different than not having the ability.

It's interesting because as men learn success to have a high notch, inside they still wish for quality. your methods for quantity are not in dispute.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

yep. that is dead right....

at some point, it is about self-love and enjoying one's own presence. the rest of it is just choices.

I understand it now. I know how to do it.

The few men that I have known in the past that I continue to remember having very high respect for followed the kind/responsible model. In both cases, they EASILY could dominate the other way and elected not. They got laid as often as they wanted and had the respect of almost everyone. They did not have 1k notch counts, they had small counts with VERY HIGH QUALITY.

It was/is not a lack of ability, it is a choice. This is different than not having the ability.

It's interesting because as men learn success to have a high notch, inside they still wish for quality. your methods for quantity are not in dispute.

are you speaking from experience or projecting your ideas onto people you have encountered?

In terms of attracting higher quality women, aged 18-25 (when alphaness is her priority), being kind and responsible does not work.
That does not mean go the complete opposite extreme however.
You need to convey charismatic selfishness

 

[metalwater]

are you speaking from experience or projecting your ideas onto people you have encountered?

In terms of attracting higher quality women, aged 18-25 (when alphaness is her priority), being kind and responsible does not work.
That does not mean go the complete opposite extreme however.
You need to convey charismatic selfishness

experience, most of anything I tell is from experience' either my own or others I know or have known. I pick a few things out of reading but only after noticing that they fit with reality.

I get it. It just depends on what the goal is and who we want to be.

fact; greed is attractive to women at a very deep level. greed and dominance have much in common.

one of your premises I get from what you tell us is that being dominant and greedy will get you women and at the same time cause most men to dislike you. it's true; I know it also. If the only goal in life that matters to a man is getting women and as many as possible then your methods are perfect... I have no argument with that and often support that position when others present it. It is fact.

probably just like the term alpha has definition problems, quality is also subjective.

greed/dominance/selfishness will for sure get 18-25 hot women. basically, it is needed for membership in the cck carousel. I think we are in agreement, for those that want membership on the merry-go-round, this is the way to do it.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I get respect and deference when I’m doing door to door sales. I don’t make 6 figures

 

[Hamurabimbi]

High smv and kind/responsible = gets you liked but not laid…this is why game exists
Arrogance and dominance gets you laid

Looks without arrogance/dominance still gets laid. Just not as much.

 

[Jack22]

I agree with that to a point. A difference between being a simp to all and being fair with others while paying attention to details. Don't be a sucker is something I agree with. Don't treat others with respect, is something that is dangerous; literally. It's easy to evolve into a mindset where it seems to make sense to out alpha everyone, and the fact that some women will reward that makes it even more appealing. It's like a deal with the devil.

Respect and kindness are two different things though. I'm not going to expand any further, as it's already late. I think I'm going to hop out of this whole ordeal, using the internet and all. There are better ways for me to spend my time. Bye.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Good thread. One small, seemingly insignificant thing to do is, do not ever say Can I have...?

Always tell people what you want.

 

[2Rocky]

Good SMV is the first step towards respect. The other is clear boundaries.

So when you’re in public, hide your alpha. This isn’t high school…In the real world, winners/jocks are resented by many. Good looking and successful guys that are shy/nice/low profile are loved by society because they boost people’s self esteem. These guys don’t get laid (unless in the context of beta bux), but they are liked.

Yes to this....Charisma First. Then when people oppose you or what you stand for they look bad...

 

[eli77]

To State the obvious I look to TV shows and movies for role models along with ex military personnel good post feel free to reach out to me sometime I love your work

 

[Dash Riprock]

As a high SMV man you will have haters.

Both men and women.

Sometimes, you don't even have to say anything. It can be just the way you carry yourself and how you look. I've run into this numerous times. It started in junior high into high school and continues to this day and I'm over 45. At first, I'd take it personally. But then I realized it was actually confirmation I was doing things right; good physique, decent looks, charisma, had goals bigger than drinking, women, and lay count, and carried myself with confidence. And yes, it DOES attract women.

If they only knew my net worth (7 figures) and the fact I own my own business and have never been married, the haters would hate even more .

Ciao,
Dash

 

[Glassguy]

I'm just now seeing this thread. Although it's a good topic, I'm going to instantly disagree with some things in OPs post.
1. You don't have to be 6'+ to be high value, to be alpha and have abundance. I know PLENTY of guys who have high value and exceptionally high abundance with high value women that aren't close to 6' tall. I'm one of them.

I also know plenty of men who are 6' AND relatively good looking and their approach/charisma/personality is so weak that they lose any and all female interest within a minute of them talking to a chick.

2. You have to make 6 figures to be high value and pull high value women? Really? Tell that to some of my friends who have their pick of the litter with women and make less than 50k a year. Women who are married to a 6 figure man would leave them in a second to be with someone who made less but made them feel a certain way.

I know people that make less than 100k a year but have net worths in the millions. I also know people who make well over 100k a year and don't have a pot to p!ss in or a window to throw it out of. They literally have nothing to show for it. You're telling me THAT is enticing to a high value woman? Dude just stop with that garbage. The post started as someone trying to stroke their ego instead of a good post and good content.

Here's a little secret. I'm in no way poor but I'm also not rich. I still have to work (for now). But I have a lot of assets, good paying job and very minimal debt. I'm not 6' tall. I do just fine with women. High value women at that.

This is how you do it if you're not 6'6 and not making a million a year:

1. You use that thing under your nose to benefit you with women and not be a detriment.
2. You be the best version of yourself everyday. Not just with women but in life.
3. Be confident in everything you do, but also be humble. Your "lifestyle " could be taken away at any moment for hundreds of reasons beyond your control. Enjoy life, be happy. That 100k a year could go "poof" and then what do you have in order to be "high value"?
4. You're value is dependent on the woman....and more importantly, how you make women feel. Sexually, emotionally, mentally.
Don't be a doormat by any means but understand that women fall in love with the way a man makes her feel. That's what gets her hooked. She also wants to be led and doesn't mind to be told "no" occasionally.
Being high value is being very balanced and being WANTED by women.
If you're only with someone because they see you're 6' tall and make a certain amount of money, well then...you're the sucker.

Does money help? Yes. Does being tall help? Probably....but damn I feel sorry for anyone that uses those 2 things to define their life.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Carry on.

Happy Hunting

 

[darksprezzatura]

I can't say I'm already high value. Potentially high value, definitely.

7 figures/year? Nope
Sleep with a new girl/week? Nope
Abs? Nope
Look like a model? Nope

But I'm on a path to freedom, and enjoying the process. It does feel like success to me.

Eating right, working out, hustling for money, approaching new women, learning from you guys, helping out the brotherhood, travelling to new countries, making fun conversations with people, educating myself.

I'm grateful that I have a supportive family, a few females who walk with me, financially not broke, physically healthy, avoiding injurious habits.

I'd say, being high value might feel like being blessed, but I don't know yet.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

As a high smv male you will attract your own unique set of circumstances

this is for men that are good looking and have their **** together (6ft, 6figures etc). There are of course many men who are high smv who are average height and average money etc, but I’m talking about superficial appearance and how it relates to others behaviour

you will often get universal respect from kids and men that are younger than you - more specifically an intense admiration…like the being that cool uncle/superhero they aspire to be.

You will get IOI’s from high smv prime women (this doesn’t mean every woman will like you or IOIs will lead to anything)…but in general, you get IOI’s daily…more intense/direct in environments like clubs or the workplace…and the hot young 20 year old girls are approachable and do not get turned off by your displays of power (eg c0ckiness, bragging, dressing good etc)

The following people will hate you, especially if you display any signs of high self esteem or outward display of power -

-some women that are not high smv (especially older ones) and feel you do not validate them/treat them as good as higher smv women. some will have a real personal agenda against you, for no reason. They would only accept you as a complete shell of yourself, if you were more feminine, witheld any outward displays of power and acted with lower self esteem/seek their validation - they basically see you as nothing more than a measuring stick for their own smv. If you are good looking male, alpha, and succesful, they want to destroy you…because they resent what you represent (dominance)

-some men who have low self esteem or are out of touch with their own masculinity will also treat you with disdain and attack you in passive aggressive ways. It’s usually always passive aggressive and highly manipulative (sometimes hard to detect), often designed to poke at your confidence! These people may be disguised as friends

as a high smv male your life can sometimes be lonely - the only fruitful relationships can be younger men who seek your mentorship, other high value men (although naturally they will be equally independant, narcissistic and busy…unless you have a shared goal), or high smv women that you’re sleeping with

Since many men bond over ‘mediocrity’ and shared failures…as a high smv man, your upbeat attitude, dominance and desire to win will often turn people off. Most high smv guys can superficially charm people but are lonely and dedicated to their craft - see Kobe Bryant

The only way to really build friendships is with other high smv men that are working towards a similar goal as yourself (eg building a business together, sport team members etc)

my advice to high smv men is to focus on yourself and keep a low profile in public. All interactions should be ‘nice’ and not opinionated. Only show ‘alphaness ’ around close male friends or girls that are clearly attracted to you. Because of what you represent (dominance), you are a force - so People that like you, will REALLY like you. Anyone that doesn’t clearly REALLY like you, isn’t on your side and sees you as a threat. With average guys, people can be ‘on the fence’/impartial and it can develop into something more …but with high smv men, people either love you or hate you from the start…and with those that love you (male or female) there will be an INSTANT connection. The girls will be extra receptive and the men will be instantly open. Do not force anything.

So when you’re in public, hide your alpha. This isn’t high school…In the real world, winners/jocks are resented by many. Good looking and successful guys that are shy/nice/low profile are loved by society because they boost people’s self esteem. These guys don’t get laid (unless in the context of beta bux), but they are liked.

But when you’re confident, dominant, aloof, arrogant or ‘too smart’/opinionated you will rub many people the wrong way…save it for the people that really like you and what you represent…it is the ‘x factor’ thats get you laid with the hotties and helps you bond with other alpha males but needs to kept under wraps


interested to hear the experiences of others

That's some horsesh|it and bs right there. You basically saying to people to be a cuck. No fvcking way!

There is absolutely no reason to hide your personality and I will never excuse for my massive success. Success attracts more success it is just how it works. Haters gonna hate and I'm digging it.

For the ones that chose to take the ride with me, your most welcome and the rest of you backstabbers; well fvck you.

 

[Glassguy]

There seems to be a big disconnect with some people when it comes to defining the difference between Value and Cost/Price

 

[AureliusMaximus]

There seems to be a big disconnect with some people when it comes to defining the difference between Value and Cost/Price

People are drooling and want the Lambo and Ferrari (or whatever etc) and are fvcking jealous on the person when they see it. But they do not want to pay the price of all the work required and the emotional rollercoaster it can be too, to be an entrepreneur.

Pat from Valuetrainment explains very well in his video the struggle it is to make it and 99% will never understand it.

So fvck e'm all.