Don't date a dumbass

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Dumb women are trouble because they're dumb, not because they're women. Seems like some users in the forum struggle with issues of low IQ in who they're dating and attribute them to issues of women in general.

tl;dr; don't date a dumbass
 

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It’s not that they’re dumb, they’re actually very smart. Most women have perfected their manipulative sociopathic ways because they learned them from the types of guys they dated in the past. The tricks and behaviors that were used on them in the past are now being used on you. It’s basically like a con-artist perfecting being a con-artist over time.
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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It’s not that they’re dumb, they’re actually very smart. Most women have perfected their manipulative sociopathic ways because they learned them from the types of guys they dated in the past. The tricks and behaviors that were used on them in the past are now being used on you. It’s basically like a con-artist perfecting being a con-artist over time.
You're exactly who I'm talking about. Stop dating dumbasses.
 

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You're exactly who I'm talking about. Stop dating dumbasses.
You sure are ****y for someone who’s been lucky up to this point and haven’t come across these types of women yet. I didn’t meet one until my mid-30’s. You are PRIME for one of these types to target you. Eventually one will and all the game and experience in the world won’t save you because your arrogance will be your downfall.
 

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You sure are ****y for someone who’s been lucky up to this point and haven’t come across these types of women yet.
He's perpetrating... If he can't tell that chicks like him when they're kissing his penis, he's not as successful as he claims.
 

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Dumb women huh. You think smart girls are different? Haha
Dude you are dealing with something you don't get.
What a clown post.
Watch this if you think only dumb girls are destructive.
Let me guess you subscribe to. "Quality girl" huh lol

Name half a dozen "high profile" well paid or celebrity women who have been "destructive" in their mens lives?
 

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You sure are ****y for someone who’s been lucky up to this point and haven’t come across these types of women yet. I didn’t meet one until my mid-30’s. You are PRIME for one of these types to target you. Eventually one will and all the game and experience in the world won’t save you because your arrogance will be your downfall.
The thing is, I have. Even posted about her in the forum: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...cknowledging-her-horoscope-as-reality.267783/


Extremely entitled very attractive catwalk model with a personality disorder that caused her to always do dumb ****. I could write a book about her manipulation tactics and exactly how I countered them. The first one like this I encountered at age 17, and even in my hormone filled teens I didn't let it take over my brain.
He's perpetrating... If he can't tell that chicks like him when they're kissing his penis, he's not as successful as he claims.
I never actually made any claims tho.

Also: I'm not saying women won't do women stuff. I'm just saying that most of the complaints about women in this forum can be attributed to being an idiot more than being a woman.
 
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I know this girl. Not cute and not ugly, just ok.

dumb as a rock and eats like a cow but don't get a really fat just average.

so one day she tells how she knows others think she is dumb and told several cases about that, it was enough that she clearly understood the situation and her image. eventually what she tells is that it works well for her, she gets what she wants and doesn't have to do much for it. she gets away with things that others do not. very dumb about many common sense things.. very very street smart and always at the front of any food line.

it might be ok to date a dumb ass, just don't be a dumb ass.
 

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Smart women are overrated as prospects. They are often careerists/feminists. Being a careerist/feminist means often does not mean you are a good girlfriend.

Also, women's IQs tend to cluster around the mean. In the normal distribution of IQs, the outliers tend to be males. The most and least intelligent people as measured by IQs are men.
 

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Smart women are overrated as prospects. They are often careerists/feminists. Being a careerist/feminist means often does not mean you are a good girlfriend.

Also, women's IQs tend to cluster around the mean. In the normal distribution of IQs, the outliers tend to be males. The most and least intelligent people as measured by IQs are men.
Indeed! Not sure about using IQ as the measure of things concerning relationships of any kind tbh. Someone can be/or act like a ****head or not be particularly pleasant regardless of how intelligent they are ime. It's like when people suggest IQ tests should be used to decide if people should have kids, . I think there are a lot of variables that make up someones character and without going all pop-psychology, think things like eq/empathy probably ranks just as important, if not more so in human relations and also simply being a relatively decent person. Granted, I guess chances of child of having 'decent' upbringing is higher in high iq families as income tends to be higher on average (not all the time), so more likely to grow up around less crime, get decent education etc although that doesn't mean they're immune to broken homes in this era or negligent/'bad' parents who earn a lot of money . I'm sure we've all encountered spoilt/entitled/arseholes who aren't particularly pleasant people, raised by wealthy families.

I've worked with some highly ranked software dev grads in a global mega corp and they were impressively intelligent, but I wouldn't have wanted to spend any time with them outside work - both male and females. Some no doubt on aspergers spectrum, but others were just awkward, difficult people to interact with. 1 of the women was particularly combative, luckily she moved on after a year.
 
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I've worked with some highly ranked software dev grads in a global mega corp and they were impressively intelligent, but I wouldn't have wanted to spend any time with them outside work - both male and females. Some no doubt on aspergers spectrum, but others were just awkward, difficult people to interact with. 1 of the women was particularly combative, luckily she moved on after a year.
Women who work in STEM occupations are less mainstream. Computer science females are not the norm at all.

Most women major in some social sciences/liberal arts or business. The hard charging business majors become careerists. Social science/liberal arts majors are often SJWs/feminists, though some get into business careers. There are some social science/liberal arts major women who go to law school and eventually become female lawyers. Female lawyers are not the best girlfriends or wives. Some are good for a pump and dump.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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Smart women are overrated as prospects. They are often careerists/feminists. Being a careerist/feminist means often does not mean you are a good girlfriend.

Also, women's IQs tend to cluster around the mean. In the normal distribution of IQs, the outliers tend to be males. The most and least intelligent people as measured by IQs are men.
I actually have had more aggravation from dating smart women than "dumb" women. Dumb women are fine if they are willing to be led (and agree with you that typically they are more willing to be led and assume a submissive role than a "smart" woman who thinks she should be in charge). The problem arises if they actually have a true mental disorder like borderline, narcissism, etc. That is technically independent of whether a woman is "smart" vs. "dumb." It can inflict both.
 

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I agree, in a general sense, that dating "dumb" women is a bad idea. By "dumb, I mean women with a significantly below average intelligence. Dumb people tend to make bad decisions that get them in trouble. This, in turn, affects the people around them.

However, after a certain point, intelligence in a woman is no longer a "value added" component. A woman with an Einstein level of intelligence is not going to make you happier than a woman of average intelligence. A high level of intelligence can also be a bad thing if she possesses certain negative traits. For example, narcissism, manipulativeness AND intelligence are a very dangerous combination in a woman.
 

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I agree, in a general sense, that dating "dumb" women is a bad idea. By "dumb, I mean women with a significantly below average intelligence. Dumb people tend to make bad decisions that get them in trouble. This, in turn, affects the people around them.

However, after a certain point, intelligence in a woman is no longer a "value added" component. A woman with an Einstein level of intelligence is not going to make you happier than a woman of average intelligence. A high level of intelligence can also be a bad thing if she possesses certain negative traits. For example, narcissism, manipulativeness AND intelligence are a very dangerous combination in a woman.
Intelligence levels, advanced degrees, career achievements, and income thresholds are rarely value additions for women.

I could make the case that going from an 80 IQ woman (below average) to a 100 IQ woman (average) could be a benefit in terms of a quality girlfriend. I could make the case going from a high school diploma/GED woman to a useful trade certification/bachelor's degree from a mediocre university could be a benefit in terms of a quality girlfriend. I can't make the case that going from an average to above average IQ woman is beneficial in finding a good girlfriend. Getting a woman with a degree any higher than a BA/BS degree from a mediocre university is more likely to lead to a frustrating dating experience.

I actually have had more aggravation from dating smart women than "dumb" women. Dumb women are fine if they are willing to be led (and agree with you that typically they are more willing to be led and assume a submissive role than a "smart" woman who thinks she should be in charge). The problem arises if they actually have a true mental disorder like borderline, narcissism, etc. That is technically independent of whether a woman is "smart" vs. "dumb." It can inflict both.
Agree that mental health is a better indicator of relational quality than IQ.

Women with slightly above average to above average (not genius level) intelligence levels are some of the worst girlfriend prospects out there.

These are the women whose highest level of education completed are:
1. BA/BS degrees from elite private universities
or
2. Some post graduate degree (PhD, JD, MD, MBA, MA/MS)

There are a whole battery of problems with women in categories 1 and 2 above. Lots of SJW/careerism/feminism in those groups.

The best girlfriends are the ones who don't have a bachelor's degree but received a useful trade certification. If you must date a woman with a bachelor's degree, look for one who got a degree at a basic public university and who doesn't obsess over her career. STEM major graduates from public universities are odd women too. Most of those women will be careerists, so that'll eliminate them.

It's difficult to date women with just a high school diploma/GED. The upside in this group is that you don't get career obsessed women. The downside is that they tend to have messy personal lives. They tend to be undependable. As of 2016, the average woman without a bachelor's degree gives birth at is 23.8 years old.


 
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