SmoothSmooth
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Nov 24, 2021
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Firstly I want to say that ‘game’ is more mainstream than ever. There is this idea that ‘game is dying’, which is completely untrue. PUA culture from the 2000s is dead, but that has nothing to do with game. PUA did not invent game; PUA was initially BASED on studying the behaviour of men that were already successful with women…and teaching it to others.
Most men I know that do well with women understand basic dynamics such as escalating fast and playing hard to get. It may be 5% of men that do well with attractive women consistently; but it’s always been 5% of men. Some people say it was 20% of men previously but that’s wrong. The 20% of men thing was based on tinder swipes, but tinder swipes have nothing to do with actual relationships, we all know that a tinder match doesn’t mean anything…girls just swipe on nice profiles and most matches lead nowhere. 20% of male profiles are attractive does not mean 20% of men bang loads of women.
The Instagram page Hoodville has 9 million followers and is teaching boys how to be alpha. It shares memes about having a rotation which get millions of likes. The Instagram City Boys page is also huge. The fact none of you even talk about this, yet talk about PUA’s just shows how out of touch you are. The rapper Future has so much game in his lyrics and is arguably the biggest artist of the decade after Drake. YouTube pages like Fresh and Fit, DJ Akademiks etc are all pretty mainstream and discuss game, women etc. Words like ‘game’ ‘simp’ ‘f boy’ and ‘cuck’ are part of mainstream lingo. Where it all stops is Pua culture specific things - like scripted cold approaches, overanalysing the ‘sexual marketplace’ and incel-teir theories (eg wOmEn OnLy SlEeP wItH cHaD). These things are not mainstream because they are just weird.
So I see a lot of people here complaining but not realising that there is a big cultural shift; many young men are totally aware of the game. Women are as easy to date now as 20 years ago. In my experience it’s even easier now. You need to analyse YOURSELF if you’re not experiencing this. A lot of it comes down to being weird. Some of you take the game thing way too far and too literal; and it messes up your interactions with girls. I know this because I went through this phase too. ‘Knowing too much’ will screw up your game as much as ‘knowing too little‘. You need to externally play the game just like a normal guy that doesn’t know about game would, but sprinkle in the game so it’s almost unnoticeable.
You also need to make a hard decision on who you want to be - are you the leather jacket cool hairstyle guy or are you the safe family guy? Some guys are stuck in the middle; they know the game but they dress like dweebs, don’t have the voice/image to match; it’s like sticking a Mercedes logo on a Honda, you’re all over the place and women can’t read you.
On the whole Chad thing - it’s a complete myth. Good looking and successful guys get more ‘choosing signals’, but without understanding game you aren’t getting laid. Most attractive guys with social sense figure out the game pretty easily, because they end up getting turned down by girls despite their looks or success and learning from their mistakes. You’ll get rinsed for dates and attention, but to make her wet you need to be polarising, edgy, know how and when to flirt, maintain good eye contact and body language and vocal tonality. You won’t make her wet if you’re a mannequin on the date (‘he was hot until he spoke’). Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of BS. It’s like in Bridge Jones Diary when the girls meets the hot guy at a party but gets turned off because he is wearing a nerdy Christmas sweater. This is how girls are, looks are just part of puzzle. Being polarising is probably the best personality trait for getting women - having an opinion, being a little rough around the edges, a little rude/condescending at times; forcing her MAKE A DECISION on you rather than being neutral, unoriginal and passive (hard to hate = hard to love). Metaphorically speaking thats the psychology behind why tattoos are sexy to women; because the man is being polarising with his choice and forcing you to either love or hate his art. Also taking the lead is a dealbreaker in attraction. You need to show confidence by telling her what to do; moving her around; communicating your standards etc Those things are way more important to getting laid. Most guys on this forum are rebels by nature; you need to bring that out in your interactions with women and on dates. You’re too busy trying to be smooth that you loose your edge.
Guys that are ‘chads’ should be dating equally attractive women (top 5%), and those women are going to screen for those qualities on the dates: that’s the whole purpose of the date, for a woman to screen you for alpha personality traits. Even on shows like Love Island, the hot guy will pair with the hot girl and they’ll be in a relationship for years: The 9/10 girl isn’t just going to sleep with a 9/10 guy based on his looks alone; just like a 6/10 girl isn’t going to sleep with a 6/10 guy on his looks alone. Yeah a 9/10 guy could probably get a 6/10 girl easily, but that would make him an underachieving loser, like someone with an MBA and PHD that ends up working at Walmart. But the idea that ALL girls are just banging Chad on his looks alone is an incel tier theory.
Some of you also give online dating way too much weight, because you spend too much time on the internet and have no social awareness. OLD has been around for ages and women never respected men that messaged them on MySpace or Match in 2004. Tinder is no different, it’s just easier to make a profile on (takes seconds and can be done from a phone rather than a computer), so more people have profiles. But the dynamic is the same. OLD feels important/relevant because you log on and see all these hot chicks, but those are just profiles; it doesn’t mean the hot chicks are actually present or even online at the time. It’s a mind trick…if you actually want to go were hot girls are present and concentrated then join a yoga class or visit a popular bar. The men on OLD are not your competition, the boss at a company is still banging his receptionists despite her having 1000 OLD matches, the pilots are still banging the air hostesses, club promoters still banging club girls, etc
Most men I know that do well with women understand basic dynamics such as escalating fast and playing hard to get. It may be 5% of men that do well with attractive women consistently; but it’s always been 5% of men. Some people say it was 20% of men previously but that’s wrong. The 20% of men thing was based on tinder swipes, but tinder swipes have nothing to do with actual relationships, we all know that a tinder match doesn’t mean anything…girls just swipe on nice profiles and most matches lead nowhere. 20% of male profiles are attractive does not mean 20% of men bang loads of women.
The Instagram page Hoodville has 9 million followers and is teaching boys how to be alpha. It shares memes about having a rotation which get millions of likes. The Instagram City Boys page is also huge. The fact none of you even talk about this, yet talk about PUA’s just shows how out of touch you are. The rapper Future has so much game in his lyrics and is arguably the biggest artist of the decade after Drake. YouTube pages like Fresh and Fit, DJ Akademiks etc are all pretty mainstream and discuss game, women etc. Words like ‘game’ ‘simp’ ‘f boy’ and ‘cuck’ are part of mainstream lingo. Where it all stops is Pua culture specific things - like scripted cold approaches, overanalysing the ‘sexual marketplace’ and incel-teir theories (eg wOmEn OnLy SlEeP wItH cHaD). These things are not mainstream because they are just weird.
So I see a lot of people here complaining but not realising that there is a big cultural shift; many young men are totally aware of the game. Women are as easy to date now as 20 years ago. In my experience it’s even easier now. You need to analyse YOURSELF if you’re not experiencing this. A lot of it comes down to being weird. Some of you take the game thing way too far and too literal; and it messes up your interactions with girls. I know this because I went through this phase too. ‘Knowing too much’ will screw up your game as much as ‘knowing too little‘. You need to externally play the game just like a normal guy that doesn’t know about game would, but sprinkle in the game so it’s almost unnoticeable.
You also need to make a hard decision on who you want to be - are you the leather jacket cool hairstyle guy or are you the safe family guy? Some guys are stuck in the middle; they know the game but they dress like dweebs, don’t have the voice/image to match; it’s like sticking a Mercedes logo on a Honda, you’re all over the place and women can’t read you.
On the whole Chad thing - it’s a complete myth. Good looking and successful guys get more ‘choosing signals’, but without understanding game you aren’t getting laid. Most attractive guys with social sense figure out the game pretty easily, because they end up getting turned down by girls despite their looks or success and learning from their mistakes. You’ll get rinsed for dates and attention, but to make her wet you need to be polarising, edgy, know how and when to flirt, maintain good eye contact and body language and vocal tonality. You won’t make her wet if you’re a mannequin on the date (‘he was hot until he spoke’). Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of BS. It’s like in Bridge Jones Diary when the girls meets the hot guy at a party but gets turned off because he is wearing a nerdy Christmas sweater. This is how girls are, looks are just part of puzzle. Being polarising is probably the best personality trait for getting women - having an opinion, being a little rough around the edges, a little rude/condescending at times; forcing her MAKE A DECISION on you rather than being neutral, unoriginal and passive (hard to hate = hard to love). Metaphorically speaking thats the psychology behind why tattoos are sexy to women; because the man is being polarising with his choice and forcing you to either love or hate his art. Also taking the lead is a dealbreaker in attraction. You need to show confidence by telling her what to do; moving her around; communicating your standards etc Those things are way more important to getting laid. Most guys on this forum are rebels by nature; you need to bring that out in your interactions with women and on dates. You’re too busy trying to be smooth that you loose your edge.
Guys that are ‘chads’ should be dating equally attractive women (top 5%), and those women are going to screen for those qualities on the dates: that’s the whole purpose of the date, for a woman to screen you for alpha personality traits. Even on shows like Love Island, the hot guy will pair with the hot girl and they’ll be in a relationship for years: The 9/10 girl isn’t just going to sleep with a 9/10 guy based on his looks alone; just like a 6/10 girl isn’t going to sleep with a 6/10 guy on his looks alone. Yeah a 9/10 guy could probably get a 6/10 girl easily, but that would make him an underachieving loser, like someone with an MBA and PHD that ends up working at Walmart. But the idea that ALL girls are just banging Chad on his looks alone is an incel tier theory.
Some of you also give online dating way too much weight, because you spend too much time on the internet and have no social awareness. OLD has been around for ages and women never respected men that messaged them on MySpace or Match in 2004. Tinder is no different, it’s just easier to make a profile on (takes seconds and can be done from a phone rather than a computer), so more people have profiles. But the dynamic is the same. OLD feels important/relevant because you log on and see all these hot chicks, but those are just profiles; it doesn’t mean the hot chicks are actually present or even online at the time. It’s a mind trick…if you actually want to go were hot girls are present and concentrated then join a yoga class or visit a popular bar. The men on OLD are not your competition, the boss at a company is still banging his receptionists despite her having 1000 OLD matches, the pilots are still banging the air hostesses, club promoters still banging club girls, etc
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