Is it just me or women have changed?

[zinc4]

Yea, that's shocking for the Miami area, OLD. I live on the opposite coast with an old population age so it's not any better as you can imagine.

Prob a Miami nightlife is good though. I was there during its big covid lockdown last year.

 

[biggoal]

Prob a Miami nightlife is good though. I was there during its big covid lockdown last year.

A big city like Miami like South Beach where you can walk to a lot of bars and such and warm most of the year I guess OLD isn't really needed which could be why it's so bad there as you're describing. Because people are actually out socializing and doing stuff and have no need for it.

 

[zinc4]

A big city like Miami like South Beach where you can walk to a lot of bars and such and warm most of the year I guess OLD isn't really needed which could be why it's so bad there as you're describing. Because people are actually out socializing and doing stuff and have no need for it.

Maybe man. The only part of Florida where i have found lots of abundant easy women was around the gulf area. Orlando and Jacksonville for example are total **** holes.

 

[biggoal]

Maybe man. The only part of Florida where i have found lots of abundant easy women was around the gulf area. Orlando and Jacksonville for example are total **** holes.

Jax has a military presence maybe too many of them guys hit on them. Not sure about Orlando. Never heard any complaints about orlando. Lots of young people there .

 

[zinc4]

Jax has a military presence maybe too many of them guys hit on them. Not sure about Orlando. Never heard any complaints about orlando. Lots of young people there .

Way too much traffic...bad interstate system...too hot / humid with no ocean. Over done urban culture like Atlanta only Atlanta is not as bad. Tonnes of young professional type competition who are fresh out of big SEC/ACC schools.

Disney world and universal are ironically the best spots. Can pick up lots of hot tourists there. The rest of that city is meh.

It's kind of like a hotter ****tier version of Atlanta located in Florida imo.

 

[biggoal]

Way too much traffic...bad interstate system...too hot / humid with no ocean. Over done urban culture like Atlanta only Atlanta is not as bad. Tonnes of young professional type competition who are fresh out of big SEC/ACC schools.

Disney world and universal are ironically the best spots. Can pick up lots of hot tourists there. The rest of that city is meh.

It's kind of like a hotter ****tier version of Atlanta located in Florida imo.

Atlanta traffic is a nightmare compared to anywhere in fl, except miami might come close.

 

[zinc4]

Atlanta traffic is a nightmare compared to anywhere in fl, except miami might come close.

Orlando's is worse ha. More dangerous too imo...i almost had several collisions there in just a few months.

 

[Magic8ball]

So an update: I met an English lady. She's no different from the rest. See I have no issue in getting a piece of ass but I want something stable and long term. She definitely said she wanted to "****" me but I'm not shallow and do really live like man ***** or a man ho. She was drunk too when she said it. She remembers. She's the one she just wanted to be friends with benefits. I mean wtf. When I said no, she flipped out on me. I mean totally crazy. I told her I don't show affection to a girl who is just a friend. I'm strictly platonic.

Should I ditch her or keep her around?

 

[mrskinnypantz]

Nope always been this bad.
OLD is just exposing it.

 

[biggoal]

Orlando's is worse ha. More dangerous too imo...i almost had several collisions there in just a few months.

You have tourist from all over the World in Orlando because of the Giant Rat.

 

[PRW63]

I'm not sure if it's me or not. I have tried everything and when I say everything I mean everything to date successfully and most of these women I have complained about are into just hooking up and when I am doing the honesty thing as outlined by Mark Manson, a problem I come against. Even if you are honest women do not like that. But I think personally it's just that American women are low quality and it's ridiculous. I simply gave up on dating. Yeah I live in America and can't afford the luxury to move to another country.

So tell me guys, is it just me or have women gotten worse? I could tell you about my experiences but it's too many to tell.

They are worse, but it is Global due to how OLD (Tinder and all the others) have broadened women's reach for more options. I don't know what "honesty" Mark Manson was talking about,...I've never agreed with him enough to follow him enough to know what he says about everything. Honesty in the sense of just not being a lier is one thing, and good,... but honesty in the sense of "spilling your guts" and the "telling her how you feel" crap usually takes you right out of the game.

 

[Magic8ball]

They are worse, but it is Global due to how OLD (Tinder and all the others) have broadened women's reach for more options. I don't know what "honesty" Mark Mansim starting to on was talking about,...I've never agreed with him enough to follow him enough to know what he says about everything. Honesty in the sense of just not being a lier is one thing, and good,... but honesty in the sense of "spilling your guts" and the "telling her how you feel" crap usually takes you right out of the game.

They are worse, but it is Global due to how OLD (Tinder and all the others) have broadened women's reach for more options. I don't know what "honesty" Mark Manson was talking about,...I've never agreed with him enough to follow him enough to know what he says about everything. Honesty in the sense of just not being a lier is one thing, and good,... but honesty in the sense of "spilling your guts" and the "telling her how you feel" crap usually takes you right out of the game.

Well I read his book. I think game applies to looking for a serious relationship but unfortunately even if you are wanting such, his method doesn't usually vwork either. Kind of sucks but his is more to develop emotional obstacles which I think is essential in the long run because the pick up industry obviously ignores that

 

[PRW63]

Well I read his book. I think game applies to looking for a serious relationship but unfortunately even if you are wanting such, his method doesn't usually vwork either.

It will wreck a marriage if the guy is always crying on his wife's shoulder. She loses faith in him "as a man". She is supposed to be able to cry on his shoulder. She will think he can't handle his own problems and if he can't do that then how is he really honestly supposed to be effective with her problems. She might still think he is a "nice person" but she is not wanting him in her bed,...and if he happens to be her husband or LTR,...the writing is now on the wall.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

I'm not sure if it's me or not. I have tried everything and when I say everything I mean everything to date successfully and most of these women I have complained about are into just hooking up and when I am doing the honesty thing as outlined by Mark Manson, a problem I come against. Even if you are honest women do not like that. But I think personally it's just that American women are low quality and it's ridiculous. I simply gave up on dating. Yeah I live in America and can't afford the luxury to move to another country.

So tell me guys, is it just me or have women gotten worse? I could tell you about my experiences but it's too many to tell.

Between modern feminism, social media, and OLD the gap between the opposite sexes has gotten bigger. Meaning, we have no understanding of each other to the point that most people do not crave committing or being vulnerable.

This, my friend, is an age where we masturbate with each other's bodies. However, not all is lost. What I have learned (and still much more to learn) about intergender dynamics:

1) Stop thinking about the opposite sex and making it your goal or the reason why you do things
2) Don't become jaded aka black pilled, that will only get you farther from some type of balance in your life


Modern Man Advice

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

One thing I have noticed is that when I don't put up with the bull****, women are either flabbergasted that I am not reacting the way they are used to and things just drift off, or they're intrigued and give chase. It is an utter **** show, especially online - even as high-value male traction is super low.

The other thing I've found is that if you are a high-value male you're also disqualified even by lower value women because they know instinctively that they cannot control you.

Bottom line is that you never know whats going to hook, you need to be flexible and try multiple approaches - its a crazy maker sometimes.

 

[biggoal]

One thing I have noticed is that when I don't put up with the bull****, women are either flabbergasted that I am not reacting the way they are used to and things just drift off, or they're intrigued and give chase. It is an utter **** show, especially online - even as high-value male traction is super low.

The other thing I've found is that if you are a high-value male you're also disqualified even by lower value women because they know instinctively that they cannot control you.

Bottom line is that you never know whats going to hook, you need to be flexible and try multiple approaches - its a crazy maker sometimes.

Remember when Trump would call out attractive female reporters how they basically where like WTF because they're used to guys kissing their arses and never had someone hold frame to them because of their looks.

I don't care how hot a girl is. I hold frame to all women equal.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I was last single in the mid-00’s. And then again, 2018-19’. Clubs/bars are less vibrant. OLD is a thing. And that can be s blessing or a curse, depending on the guy. More tat’s (but I don’t care one way or another). Girls are more open to being Bi-. But my experience has been that’s it’s just empty virtue signaling. They want dvck. The whole #metoo thing never seems to have happened. Girls are pretty much the same. Maybe at little bit more confident.
With all that being said. I really haven’t analyzed things since Covid. My superficial impression, living as an unmasked wolf in sea of masked sheep is Covid has made things worse. People view themselves & others as dangerous disease vectors, rather than fellow human beings.
This has got to be one of the worst times to be single.

 

[Zimbabwe]

With all that being said. I really haven’t analyzed things since Covid. My superficial impression, living as an unmasked wolf in sea of masked sheep is Covid has made things worse. People view themselves & others as dangerous disease vectors, rather than fellow human beings.
This has got to be one of the worst times to be single.

The observation we have all made is that the pandemic has made everyone significantly less social. We need some way to adapt to it like how we adapted to OLD.

Tinder is where women seek appreciation from men they do not actually want, and men pretend to appreciate women they have absolutely no respect for.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I am doing the honesty thing as outlined by Mark Manson, a problem I come against.

there’s a difference between logically honest and authenticity

 

[biggoal]

I was last single in the mid-00’s. And then again, 2018-19’. Clubs/bars are less vibrant. OLD is a thing. And that can be s blessing or a curse, depending on the guy. More tat’s (but I don’t care one way or another). Girls are more open to being Bi-. But my experience has been that’s it’s just empty virtue signaling. They want dvck. The whole #metoo thing never seems to have happened. Girls are pretty much the same. Maybe at little bit more confident.
With all that being said. I really haven’t analyzed things since Covid. My superficial impression, living as an unmasked wolf in sea of masked sheep is Covid has made things worse. People view themselves & others as dangerous disease vectors, rather than fellow human beings.
This has got to be one of the worst times to be single.

And notice it's old people and especially girls wesring masks! Most women wear the stupid things and cant see their face!