How would you handle this comment from the woman which seems to be subtly referring to sex?

[Sebastian0001]

I've gone on a few dates with this woman, she is in her 30s and I am in my late 30s and today we were texting a bit and I was teasing her because she seems kind of prudish. In 3 dates, we have only kissed and nothing further. I was teasing her that she should be a nun because she is such a goody to shoe type. She laughed and then asked me what that means and that guys have said this to her before. And then she said, in a very nice way, that she knows i'm just teasing her but she doesn't like guys in the past who judge her like that because they have not been in her shoes or truly know who she is and then clarified she's not talking about me because she knows i'm just teasing.

How would you respond in a "sosuave" way? I want to date her because she seems like a good wife material so I don't necessarily care if it takes more time for her to be open about sex but not sure exactly what she is saying? Maybe she means that she really is fine with sex but that people are judging her prematurely?

 

[Willie Naylor]

Paralysis of analysis, my man.

Don't text her back anything overly snarky or try to sexualize things again.

Tell her, "Yes, just teasing. Talk to you soon."

 

[Sebastian0001]

Paralysis of analysis, my man.

Don't text her back anything overly snarky or try to sexualize things again.

Tell her, "Yes, just teasing. Talk to you soon."

hmm ok but what is she saying exactly? Does it indicate she is probably a virgin? There does seem to be some insight there to keep in my mind when I decide what to try with her.

 

[Willie Naylor]

hmm ok but what is she saying exactly? Does it indicate she is probably a virgin? There does seem to be some insight there to keep in my mind when I decide what to try with her.

It doesn't matter.

You don't need to formulate a strategy or anything. Just be you, and let her be her, and let things flow naturally.

 

[Bokanovsky]

hmm ok but what is she saying exactly? Does it indicate she is probably a virgin? There does seem to be some insight there to keep in my mind when I decide what to try with her.

Why not ask her what she means? Don't be afraid to ask for clarification. None of us could possibly have the slightest clue what she's talking about based on the limited information provided.

 

[Velasco]

Sexually abused.

 

[Macadellic]

OP,
This girl (in her 30s) has experience getting men to fall into her frame. Yet she has been unsuccessful in manipulating one man to commit to her BS.

If she is obsessed with Disney,
examples:
- listens to Disney princess songs
- has a collection of Disney princess merchandise
- has an “I’m a princess vibe”

Then…

Sexually abused.

^^THIS

I want to date her because she seems like a good wife material so I don't necessarily care if it takes more time for her to be open about sex but not sure exactly what she is saying?

SHE KNOWS EXACTLY what she is saying/doing and she already knows she has you on the hook.

If you decide for yourself to continue to date this girl then let us know how things work out for you.

Experience is the best teacher.

 

[Robert28]

I've gone on a few dates with this woman, she is in her 30s and I am in my late 30s and today we were texting a bit and I was teasing her because she seems kind of prudish. In 3 dates, we have only kissed and nothing further. I was teasing her that she should be a nun because she is such a goody to shoe type. She laughed and then asked me what that means and that guys have said this to her before. And then she said, in a very nice way, that she knows i'm just teasing her but she doesn't like guys in the past who judge her like that because they have not been in her shoes or truly know who she is and then clarified she's not talking about me because she knows i'm just teasing.

How would you respond in a "sosuave" way? I want to date her because she seems like a good wife material so I don't necessarily care if it takes more time for her to be open about sex but not sure exactly what she is saying? Maybe she means that she really is fine with sex but that people are judging her prematurely?

I bet you a million dollars this girl has orbiters, and orbiters that have been around for years. This is the type I’ve dealt with that will lead your ass right into the friendzone if you’re not careful. She’s manipulative I can already tell. I’ve met a girl like her and it was a nightmare! And a long one at that!

 

[rjc149]

This is open disrespect. This chick has orbiters she’s leading on and probably had a load of some other dudes cvm up her snatch while she lied to you through her teeth. She sounds like she is BPD and narcissistic, like all women.

Tell her clearly— you are an alpha male, you have a whole LINE of younger (why are you chasing saggy old hags? ewwww) hotter women waiting for their turn. And if she doesn’t comply, delete block and next her. If you don’t, she will use you for free meals and bang Chad while you pay her alimony.

Don’t be a beta cuck, dude. Show some self respect. Show her who runs the fvcking show and if she doesn’t submit, kick her to the curb. Spin more plates. Women turning 18 every day son.

But if you want my advice instead of the SS advice, I would not make conversations overtly sexual until you’ve had sex with her. You can tease and playfully allude to it, but don’t make it the focal point of your conversations. Don’t come off as a horn dog. Keep going on dates and escalate organically.

You could say “I’m not judging you, I think you’re great. But don’t let that inflate your ego now ”

 

[Sebastian0001]

OP,
This girl (in her 30s) has experience getting men to fall into her frame. Yet she has been unsuccessful in manipulating one man to commit to her BS.

If she is obsessed with Disney,
examples:
- listens to Disney princess songs
- has a collection of Disney princess merchandise
- has an “I’m a princess vibe”

Then…

^^THIS



SHE KNOWS EXACTLY what she is saying/doing and she already knows she has you on the hook.

If you decide for yourself to continue to date this girl then let us know how things work out for you.

Experience is the best teacher.

when you say she knows what she is saying/doing, can you explain what that is that she is doing? Are you saying she has some sort of goal of manipulating me? And what is "commit to her BS" - what is her BS? I have to admit I am a bit naive on these things but she seems like a good person and a sweet girl. She's highly educated, works as a specialist doc, and really doesn't give me any vibe of manipulation but I could be totally wrong.

 

[Sebastian0001]

I bet you a million dollars this girl has orbiters, and orbiters that have been around for years. This is the type I’ve dealt with that will lead your ass right into the friendzone if you’re not careful. She’s manipulative I can already tell. I’ve met a girl like her and it was a nightmare! And a long one at that!

why was it a nightmare and what happened? I don't get the impression that she is looking for orbiters. She doesn't really have any guys she spends time with. She really only hangs out with her mom and her best friends who are also single females and all of them are kind of the simple types who do simple things like hiking and go to dinner, not even clubs or anything.

 

[metalwater]

why was it a nightmare and what happened? I don't get the impression that she is looking for orbiters. She doesn't really have any guys she spends time with. She really only hangs out with her mom and her best friends who are also single females and all of them are kind of the simple types who do simple things like hiking and go to dinner, not even clubs or anything.

interesting.

how hot does she look? and how hot are her friends? I mean is she better looking than all of her friends or is she middle to bottom of that group?

in a mixed group or the men talking to you or her?

another way to look at it is that men (almost all men) want physical. all women know that. one of the things that an old and dead but successful men's coach used to tell was that the girl knows the right time to escalate. your job is to continue to farm the attraction. think about it.. you don't know when the right time is to kiss or fck or anything because for you the right time is NOW. she knows... That same coach told over and over that the only thing that matters in the relationship is HER attraction level.

don't next this one for a while, let it play out for 30 days. whenever you decide something hold to your decisions and do not let her teach you why her way is better. take her on some surprise adventure date(s), keep the cost low.. beach, mountain, etc.... It should be something that is fun for you even if she isn't with you.

it fits if she doesn't have orbiters and she is not putting out a sex vibe. orbiters are only because of a sex vibe.

KEEP talking to other women, but don't advertise that to her. It's for your mind, not hers.

 

[Macadellic]

when you say she knows what she is saying/doing, can you explain what that is that she is doing? Are you saying she has some sort of goal of manipulating me?

Women communicate covertly.

Covert communication will get a less experience man to reveal his hand.

Example
Woman: “How was lunch?”

She’s not asking about my meal prep.

What she is truly asking is…
“Are you still mad I yelled at you two hours ago?”

And what is "commit to her BS" - what is her BS? I have to admit I am a bit naive on these things but she seems like a good person and a sweet girl. She's highly educated, works as a specialist doc, and really doesn't give me any vibe of manipulation but I could be totally wrong.

If she’s so great at her age (in her 30s) then why hasn’t a man put a ring on it, a baby in it, and started a family with her?

There is a REASON why she is single at her age.

OP,
Women with experience are great at deception.
Men with experience are great at detection.

Experienced women out number experienced men.

 

[Robert28]

Women communicate covertly.

Covert communication will get a less experience man to reveal his hand.

Example
Woman: “How was lunch?”

She’s not asking about my meal prep.

What she is truly asking is…
“Are you still mad I yelled at you two hours ago?”



If she’s so great at her age (in her 30s) then why hasn’t a man put a ring on it, a baby in it, and started a family with her?

There is a REASON why she is single at her age.

OP,
Women with experience are great at deception.
Men with experience are great at detection.

Experienced women out number experienced men.

Look at where all her experience with deception got her though, single and alone in her 30’s with no one lining up to commit. Bravo. Well done, lady. You won at life. Not.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The only thing Im imagining is the typical fat 30 year old woman from your post. She's not worth your time regardless. If you think you won't get another woman so easily, you're likely following your intuition that your value isn't that high. Increase it, and your lay count goes up too. Then you wont have to worry about these stupid shvt tests texting.

I never text. I use to back in college cause I was an idiot. I don't do it anymore except to set up time and dates. She's on my time.

 

[Sebastian0001]

The only thing Im imagining is the typical fat 30 year old woman from your post. She's not worth your time regardless. If you think you won't get another woman so easily, you're likely following your intuition that your value isn't that high. Increase it, and your lay count goes up too. Then you wont have to worry about these stupid shvt tests texting.

I never text. I use to back in college cause I was an idiot. I don't do it anymore except to set up time and dates. She's on my time.

interesting.

how hot does she look? and how hot are her friends? I mean is she better looking than all of her friends or is she middle to bottom of that group?

in a mixed group or the men talking to you or her?

another way to look at it is that men (almost all men) want physical. all women know that. one of the things that an old and dead but successful men's coach used to tell was that the girl knows the right time to escalate. your job is to continue to farm the attraction. think about it.. you don't know when the right time is to kiss or fck or anything because for you the right time is NOW. she knows... That same coach told over and over that the only thing that matters in the relationship is HER attraction level.

don't next this one for a while, let it play out for 30 days. whenever you decide something hold to your decisions and do not let her teach you why her way is better. take her on some surprise adventure date(s), keep the cost low.. beach, mountain, etc.... It should be something that is fun for you even if she isn't with you.

it fits if she doesn't have orbiters and she is not putting out a sex vibe. orbiters are only because of a sex vibe.

KEEP talking to other women, but don't advertise that to her. It's for your mind, not hers.

She is not hot per se as a 9 or 10 would be but she has an athletic slender body type. She is cute. I'd say a 7 or 6.5 but her personality makes her more attractive. Her friends are not hot at all. Some are average and some are overweight and unattractive. I don't see any signs of guys talking to her regularly but there are a fair amount of guys that like her posts on social media. What would be the purpose of not talking for a while? When you say that the right time to kiss or **** is whe she is ready to escalate? The problem is it can go into friendzone if the guy never makes a move or waits too long to make a move. I want things to progress faster on the physical level with her.

 

[Sebastian0001]

Women communicate covertly.

Covert communication will get a less experience man to reveal his hand.

Example
Woman: “How was lunch?”

She’s not asking about my meal prep.

What she is truly asking is…
“Are you still mad I yelled at you two hours ago?”



If she’s so great at her age (in her 30s) then why hasn’t a man put a ring on it, a baby in it, and started a family with her?

There is a REASON why she is single at her age.

OP,
Women with experience are great at deception.
Men with experience are great at detection.

Experienced women out number experienced men.

Yes good question and I have NO IDEA why she has no guy trying to put a ring on it. She seems a lot better than other women who I have seen with rings on their finger that's for sure.

 

[metalwater]

She is not hot per se as a 9 or 10 would be but she has an athletic slender body type. She is cute. I'd say a 7 or 6.5 but her personality makes her more attractive. Her friends are not hot at all. Some are average and some are overweight and unattractive. I don't see any signs of guys talking to her regularly but there are a fair amount of guys that like her posts on social media. What would be the purpose of not talking for a while? When you say that the right time to kiss or **** is whe she is ready to escalate? The problem is it can go into friendzone if the guy never makes a move or waits too long to make a move. I want things to progress faster on the physical level with her.

SS and PUA tell go escalate quickly. Basically filtering for good plates that are tolerant. Remember SS is anti oneites and for good reasons.

The two most loyal I can remember, the first one escalated to me after weeks and was definitely a virgin. The second one I recall that was loyal and submissive escalated to me on the first day and definitely not a virgin. you can get sex faster by escalation sooner from your side. when SHE escalates she is ALL in. In both cases, I did a variety of stupid stuff later, but the initial interactions were very clear from a red pill lens.

So she is the babe or alpha of that group and usually gets more attention than the others. You might go to the friend zone or not. You can and should escalate the kiss and light kino. Let her escalate the sex in this case if you're looking for a keeper.

If fast escalation worked on her she would have active orbiters and more male talkers. Let her escalate in this case, but do show interest with a good kiss and good soft kino. And have fun on some activities. If she chose to show you another guy... don't back away hold your ground unless she asks you to back away.

 

[BadBoy89]

I've gone on a few dates with this woman, she is in her 30s and I am in my late 30s

Your age says 41 in your profile.

and today we were texting a bit and I was teasing her because she seems kind of prudish. In 3 dates, we have only kissed and nothing further. I was teasing her that she should be a nun because she is such a goody to shoe type. She laughed and then asked me what that means and that guys have said this to her before. And then she said, in a very nice way, that she knows i'm just teasing her but she doesn't like guys in the past who judge her like that because they have not been in her shoes or truly know who she is and then clarified she's not talking about me because she knows i'm just teasing.

How would you respond in a "sosuave" way?

Alpha f***s, beta bucks

I want to date her because she seems like a good wife material

3 dates, lets say 2 hours / date. In 6 hours you know she is good wife material? Rock on baby.

so I don't necessarily care if it takes more time for her to be open about sex but not sure exactly what she is saying?

I'm not sure what you are saying.

Maybe she means that she really is fine with sex but that people are judging her prematurely?

A 31-year-old woman texts a man and says "not to judge her" after the 41-year-old man texts her she is a "goody two-shoes".

So either the OP is 15 years old, really immature for his age, or this story is made up. My bet is on the latter latter.

 

[manfrombelow]

OP, whenever a woman (let alone 31-year-old ones) demands men not to judge her, 99,999% of the times, she has had too much nasty stuff in the past to get rightfully judged, so she always fears being judged. Normally, it's the endless c0ck-carousel that she's been riding from high school until now, when she's finally past her prime and is targeting a provider-type of man to "settle down".

So, if I were you, I would not give a single FVCK about her WORDS (words mean almost NOTHING at all in most cases, especially when it comes to women). I would give her a maximum of 03 dates and if no sex happens at the 3rd date, she's out of my picture.

And about the "wifey-material" stuff? Too soon & too little data to even have a glimpse about it now man.