Reframing Rejection

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The feeling of rejection is painful and in order to avoid it, it's understandable that guys try to avoid it. It's perfectly normal for a human being to avoid pain and seek pleasure. However, avoiding rejection leads to missing out on a lot of potential opportunities. So I think if you have this problem, it's something that needs to be overcome.

So how can you avoid rejection or avoid feeling rejected? The answer is to reframe how you think about it.

The truth is that any girl that would reject your advances has already rejected you. You just don't know it yet. So when you approach a girl and express your interest, you're not "getting rejected" but just finding out information about her. That information is useful to you, so by finding out where you stand you're actually gaining something rather than losing it.

You might be thinking something like "but most girls reject me and I'm sick of it". Well, in that case you already know that a certain percentage of girls will not be interested. Approaching more of them probably won't change that percentage. So really, your opinion of yourself shouldn't change. If a girl insults you, is rude or calls you ugly, that's not new information. You already know that a certain percentage of women think that way. But what you have gained is information about her specifically and about her value to you. Which in this case, obviously, is zero and I would react by blocking her. If I did not have this information because I was being timid and pretending to just want a friend, then this girl (who already has this opinion of me, whether I know about it or not) would be wasting my time and potentially leading me on. Now that I know what her attitude is, I can remove her from my life and only deal with women that are attracted (or, at the very least, are respectful).

"What about female friends?" you say. Well, you can have as many female friends as you want. But you shouldn't want to bang any of them. If you do you, you should find out whether they feel the same way and then consider whether you really still want them as your friend.
 

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Thinking over all the rejections I’ve ever had, whether it was a girl I approached or a female friend, the ones that sting the most are the ones they give you some canned line and you know it’s bs. I’d rather a girl be straight up “sorry you’re too ugly” or something. It might make me think “wow!” but I bet you I won’t sit around wondering what the real reason is/was. What I can’t stand is being rejected by some fake excuse because they don’t have the respect for me to be completely honest. That’s what makes me have an overactive mind and constantly think and wear myself out over it. Rejection I can handle, bull$hit I can’t and there’s too many women out there willing to bs you.
 

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Thinking over all the rejections I’ve ever had, whether it was a girl I approached or a female friend, the ones that sting the most are the ones they give you some canned line and you know it’s bs. I’d rather a girl be straight up “sorry you’re too ugly” or something. It might make me think “wow!” but I bet you I won’t sit around wondering what the real reason is/was. What I can’t stand is being rejected by some fake excuse because they don’t have the respect for me to be completely honest. That’s what makes me have an overactive mind and constantly think and wear myself out over it. Rejection I can handle, bull$hit I can’t and there’s too many women out there willing to bs you.
"I'm just really into my career right now."
 

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"I'm just really into my career right now."
Yeah like they’re the only ones with a job. I work 50-60 hours a week running my business and you know what, I still make time for stuff that matters.
 

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"I'm just really into my career right now."
Actually it doesn't matter what words they say. It all means the same thing. I try to practice what it says in your signature, "don't give negative shiit any energy". These days, if a woman is negative in any way, I just block her and forget about her.
 

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Thinking over all the rejections I’ve ever had, whether it was a girl I approached or a female friend, the ones that sting the most are the ones they give you some canned line and you know it’s bs. I’d rather a girl be straight up “sorry you’re too ugly” or something. It might make me think “wow!” but I bet you I won’t sit around wondering what the real reason is/was. What I can’t stand is being rejected by some fake excuse because they don’t have the respect for me to be completely honest. That’s what makes me have an overactive mind and constantly think and wear myself out over it. Rejection I can handle, bull$hit I can’t and there’s too many women out there willing to bs you.
I think how much it stings depends on how much energy you waste thinking about it. I've learnt to waste zero energy. I just don't care at all about any woman that has a negative attitude towards me. The moment she shows that, whether by coming out with some BS, saying she's busy or being arrogant or rude, I'm out. She doesn't even exist anymore, as far as I'm concerned.
 

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The feeling of rejection is painful and in order to avoid it, it's understandable that guys try to avoid it. It's perfectly normal for a human being to avoid pain and seek pleasure. However, avoiding rejection leads to missing out on a lot of potential opportunities. So I think if you have this problem, it's something that needs to be overcome.

So how can you avoid rejection or avoid feeling rejected? The answer is to reframe how you think about it.

The truth is that any girl that would reject your advances has already rejected you. You just don't know it yet. So when you approach a girl and express your interest, you're not "getting rejected" but just finding out information about her. That information is useful to you, so by finding out where you stand you're actually gaining something rather than losing it.

You might be thinking something like "but most girls reject me and I'm sick of it". Well, in that case you already know that a certain percentage of girls will not be interested. Approaching more of them probably won't change that percentage. So really, your opinion of yourself shouldn't change. If a girl insults you, is rude or calls you ugly, that's not new information. You already know that a certain percentage of women think that way. But what you have gained is information about her specifically and about her value to you. Which in this case, obviously, is zero and I would react by blocking her. If I did not have this information because I was being timid and pretending to just want a friend, then this girl (who already has this opinion of me, whether I know about it or not) would be wasting my time and potentially leading me on. Now that I know what her attitude is, I can remove her from my life and only deal with women that are attracted (or, at the very least, are respectful).

"What about female friends?" you say. Well, you can have as many female friends as you want. But you shouldn't want to bang any of them. If you do you, you should find out whether they feel the same way and then consider whether you really still want them as your friend.
Why are you over complicating a rejection? Thats the game, to get a YES you must be willing to risk getting a NO aswell.
 

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Actually it doesn't matter what words they say. It all means the same thing. I try to practice what it says in your signature, "don't give negative shiit any energy". These days, if a woman is negative in any way, I just block her and forget about her.
I know. I was just making conversation by giving one example.
 

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My favourite one was

Me: what are you doing this weekend?

Her: nothing

Me: let's go out this weekend

Her: sorry I'm busy
Me, in response: Are you sure?
 

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Feeling upset over a rejection is a Beta trait.
Become a man that DGAF.
 

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Feeling upset over a rejection is a Beta trait.
Become a man that DGAF.
It's impossible to not give a fvck. You're just lying to yourself. But I often feel that females don't have an accurate perception of reality and value, which turns "the game" into a bunch of nonsense anyway.
 
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