It's Crazy How Important a Social Circle Is

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Everytime you see an average looking guy with a hb8+ it is always through social circle, you get access to better quality women this way. Most guys who do this are beta and have no game knowledge though.

How do I build a proper social circle post college especially since most meetup groups here in Australia are online only?

I gave volunteering a go but i learnt that it's mostly 55+ year olds with a lot of free time (environmental NGO).

I really want to be able to establish a social circle that would help me find quality Relationships. Has anyone been able to establish one post pandemic?
 

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20 something social circles are almost always work and/or school based.

These social circles in turn almost always involve subtle or not so subtle attempts to out-alpha the other guys in the group in hopes of dating the prettiest girl in the social circle.

IME, you are not likely to find 8+ girls who are willing to invest significant time in social circles. It's too easy for them to find a boyfriend or series of FWB's so attending event after event after event is not necessary for them.

As a matter of fact, the vast majority of these girls are WORKING at the same venues you are playing at as bartenders, hostesses, dancers, etc.

Social circles are not a shortcut to getting a girlfriend. Just like when you game solo, it all comes down to your SMV, and there is no way a social circle can help you much in that regard.

Overall, socializing among 20 somethings has taken a nosedive in the past year and a half. It's viewed as "dangerous" to your health and they usually view public outings as a necessary evil to work or get exercise.
 

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As a matter of fact, the vast majority of these girls are WORKING at the same venues you are playing at as bartenders, hostesses, dancers, etc.
So i take it that the best way to meet these women, is by becoming a regular at these venues to build rapport and ask them out?


Overall, socializing among 20 somethings has taken a nosedive in the past year and a half. It's viewed as "dangerous" to your health and they usually view public outings as a necessary evil to work or get exercise.
People have become insular homebodies, they are too comfortable now with it. I thought meetup groups would solve this but they are mostly online only which completely defeats the purpose of the whole thing.
 

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In my experience, if a man wants to meet a girl in his social circle, he has to get close to her friend who is not single. Treat that friend really nice, and then that friend will put in a good word for him. It’s not like if a man’s in social circle and it’s a hook up orgy with 8+ young actresses. It’s just a tough for man to meet a girl by himself, if not tougher.

Any guy in a man’s social circle is not going to help a man out. In fact, if the guy finds out about the man’s dating in the social circle, he will go out of his way to ruin it. He doesn’t want the man to get action consistently and not be alone, so he will sabotage the relationship. People want what’s worst for others.

In any case, join dance or something. But at 25, I think any young hot girl in dance will have a boyfriend. These alpha men, they get them pregnant while they are young and teenagers. Sharon Stone had an abortion at 17. Who is going to want to have sex with her at 63? Look at Zayn Malik, gets a hot young girl pregnant at 26 and then gets the hell out of dodge.

They should teach men how to get young hot girls pregnant in school, not American History.

Brutal.
 

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20 something social circles are almost always work and/or school based.

These social circles in turn almost always involve subtle or not so subtle attempts to out-alpha the other guys in the group in hopes of dating the prettiest girl in the social circle.

IME, you are not likely to find 8+ girls who are willing to invest significant time in social circles. It's too easy for them to find a boyfriend or series of FWB's so attending event after event after event is not necessary for them.

As a matter of fact, the vast majority of these girls are WORKING at the same venues you are playing at as bartenders, hostesses, dancers, etc.

Social circles are not a shortcut to getting a girlfriend. Just like when you game solo, it all comes down to your SMV, and there is no way a social circle can help you much in that regard.

Overall, socializing among 20 somethings has taken a nosedive in the past year and a half. It's viewed as "dangerous" to your health and they usually view public outings as a necessary evil to work or get exercise.
social circle provides sustained access to some women, if not a great looking man it gives a chance for the charm to work.

lots of partner swapping (in secret, haha).

for larger circles, status within the circle becomes important to some women.

lots of different circles, neighborhoods, apartment buildings, work, church, sports, kids activities, self-help groups, tavern, goes on and on. if you take the bus or the train every day at the same time, can create a circle in some locations.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Everytime you see an average looking guy with a hb8+ it is always through social circle, you get access to better quality women this way. Most guys who do this are beta and have no game knowledge though.
Most men are beta males. These beta males are pusssy beggars in cases when they don't have a social circle.

When a beta male has a social circle, he'll get a girlfriend and be able to get laid. The relationship will last some extended period of time. Shorter, long term relationships from social circle last less than 3 years. You'll see many relationships form out of social circles in one's 20s that last somewhere between 5-20 years and can often involve marriage. I've seen divorced or broken up from LTR guys with social circles move on easily from one of those 5-20 year long relationships. If a guy comes out of a 5-20 year long relationship with no social circle, he's going to have some issues.

When a beta male has no social circle and isn't in a relationship, he's usually doing some combination of swiping and texting a lot on apps, wanking furiously on a porn tube site, simping, etc. Greater betas might be able to cold approach with alcohol.

"The whole notion of not having any type of social life/access to women and just cold approaching your way to abundance with women is not optimal or sustainable. You will run out of willpower eventually and give up and join the priesthood, aka MGTOW.

The easiest way to get chicks is having a few hobbies where women exist. Like a dance club, fitness club, etc.

When I show up to these places, I am energized. I don’t chase or game women. I just let them come to me.

Its really that simple. Be fit, and be around chicks. It’s this simplicity that keeps it fresh for me."
Cold approaching to abundance is really difficult. You might be able to cold approach your way into a relationship. Cold approach sourced relationships are typically shorter than social circle sourced ones, so you'll have to do more cold approaching lifetime. If you can get 2 years out of a relationship from a cold approach, you're doing well.

Having hobbies where women exist will still involving you as the man initiating the interaction. If you go to a mainly female exercise class, you're still approaching women. It's a warm-ish approach. That might be a hybrid of pure cold approach and social circle. It's still not that easy.

20 something social circles are almost always work and/or school based.
One of my friends got married to a woman in a different department of a large company with little interaction between the two departments. They did know some people in the same company.

In my experience, if a man wants to meet a girl in his social circle, he has to get close to her friend who is not single. Treat that friend really nice, and then that friend will put in a good word for him. It’s not like if a man’s in social circle and it’s a hook up orgy with 8+ young actresses. It’s just a tough for man to meet a girl by himself, if not tougher.

Any guy in a man’s social circle is not going to help a man out. In fact, if the guy finds out about the man’s dating in the social circle, he will go out of his way to ruin it. He doesn’t want the man to get action consistently and not be alone, so he will sabotage the relationship. People want what’s worst for others.
If there are multiple single men in a social circle, there will be fierce competitions for whatever women are in the realm of that social circle. It happened in my main group of friends in the mid-2010s.

The most true thing said here is that "It’s just a tough for man to meet a girl by himself, if not tougher."

I've seen men with girlfriends and wives who would be ***** beggars/simps/borderline incels without a social circle. That's how important social circle is to getting laid.

Social circle takes a lot to put together and the variables won't line up for some men. I've been one of those men. Learning approaching skill to overcome that is quite difficult. Getting laid from cold approach and cold approach lite (fitness classes, etc) is quite difficult. Having people on the inside to vouch for you makes all the difference.

In any case, join dance or something. But at 25, I think any young hot girl in dance will have a boyfriend. These alpha men, they get them
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So i take it that the best way to meet these women, is by becoming a regular at these venues to build rapport and ask them out?
Not at all. You've got to meet these women outside of their workplace. I once met a stripper playing pickup games of a certain sport. That's an example of how you do it.
 

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Social Circle
Pros:
  • More reliable access to girls.
  • An instant in for conversation and interaction.
  • Less anxiety from the girl.
Cons:
  • If any drama happens, it'll spread through the group.
  • Interactions can get awkward if there's a crossover or heavy mix of ****ing, resorting in a lot of competition for attention, resulting in said drama.
  • Less likely to get hot women.
Solo
Pros:
  • More women to choose from.
  • If something happens, doesn't affect friend group.
Cons:
  • Have to make everything happen yourself, especially if you don't have physical attraction.
  • Have to constantly create familiarity with different people to score a new woman.
Summary: Social Circle game for betas, Solo for everyone else. Honestly, I found that as long as you are good at talking to people with no anxiety or nervousness, you don't even need social circle. I can vibe in and out of circles just fine, which is probably a better trait to have than anything.
 

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Everytime you see an average looking guy with a hb8+ it is always through social circle, you get access to better quality women this way. Most guys who do this are beta and have no game knowledge though.

How do I build a proper social circle post college especially since most meetup groups here in Australia are online only?

I gave volunteering a go but i learnt that it's mostly 55+ year olds with a lot of free time (environmental NGO).

I really want to be able to establish a social circle that would help me find quality Relationships. Has anyone been able to establish one post pandemic?
that is the issue "pandemic", don't matter if you are pro or against, no social will work till the whole thing is over and you can move normally around, need at least another year, and then a new one just to deal with the scared cats around still crying wolf, and that is if china don't toss new new one for us
 

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SC is just another venue. Like OLD, clubs/bars, work, cashiers/clerks, daygame.... no better or worse in my experience.
 

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lots of different circles, neighborhoods, apartment buildings, work, church, sports, kids activities, self-help groups, tavern, goes on and on. if you take the bus or the train every day at the same time, can create a circle in some locations.
Almost all of these avenues have either been disrupted or decimated in the past year and a half.

If they're out with masks, I have a hard time even seeing them as people.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Alumni groups - University
Industry trade groups: get on a board or committee. Post Graduation newly employed people are the most active in this role it seems.
Local Chamber of Commerce
Recreational sport league group rides, runs, rallies and tournaments
Interest club - Cars, motorcycles, guns, archery, bicycling, wine tasting, home brewing etc.
Humanitarian/Service group. Active 20-30 part of Rotary international
Social venue EVENTS. Brew pub Halloween party or New Release event. Wine club socials.



 

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Never used social groups. I have lots of interests and associate with people through common cause, but it's not a 'social' group.
 

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The hottest women I've banged were picked up from bars or parties, where we were strangers. I've never done lots of social circle game, although I do notice when a dude punches above his weight, it's from SC.

People here saying social circles devolve into dudes trying to AMOG each other -- truth. Best way to deal with that is to eject if the group is small, or break off into a smaller group if the group is larger. Trust me, when guys are clearly trying to out-alpha each other for the girls, the girls aren't impressed. Don't throw your hat in that ring.

As you get older, your social circle shrinks. Just a fact of life. Your friends tend to get into relationships, marriages, have kids etc. It's tough to "have hobbies" that attractive single women share. I hate yoga and dancing. I don't want to do that sh!t. I'm not going to force myself to do it, so I can meet women over a decade younger than me. Plus, it will be obvious to them that I'm doing it just to meet chicks.

After 35, cold approach, OLD, and the occasional cute single woman in a social circle are your main options.
 

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In my experience, social circle is not important for meeting girls WITHIN the social circle. It IS important for after you begin dating if you like them well enough to keep them around longer term. Hot women, the kind that can be with most any man they want, want to be connected to a man who has good to great social contacts. Having significant social proof is important in that regard.

I disagree that cold approach is exhausting. It’s actually pretty easy. The trick for me was to never go out just to cold approach. It was always an extraneous activity done while I was doing something else. Laying by the community pool, playing ball, shopping at the mall, etc. It becomes second nature to just be friendly and sociable to everyone and women are very attracted to that. That is actually more important than social circle (IMO).
 

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Just like when you game solo, it all comes down to your SMV, and there is no way a social circle can help you much in that regard.
That's right. You are not just competing with the other guys in the social circle, but you are competing with the internet and town as well. Its a cope and delusional to think that a woman will restrict her options to a social circle when she has a ton of options online. But, if your SMV is good enough then it would work, but then again, you probably wouldn't be alone in the first place.
 

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But this didn't work when you did social circle game.
I'm a sigma male. I'm not a beta male or an incel. It is best for incels to focus on their own issues.

This is pure bullshyt. 100% not true. Open your mouth enough and just talk and practice enough and BELIEVE in yourself any guy can meet a girl.

This is self defeating attitude shyt. Your shooting the horse before the starting gun.
First off, I was quoting someone else. Cold approaching is a really hard thing to do. It's labor intensive. There's a reason dating websites and dating apps were invented. It's because people inherently realized that it was difficult. All the other alternatives are difficult.


lots of different circles, neighborhoods, apartment buildings, work, church, sports, kids activities, self-help groups, tavern, goes on and on. if you take the bus or the train every day at the same time, can create a circle in some locations.
Almost all of these avenues have either been disrupted or decimated in the past year and a half.
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I'm a sigma male. I'm not a beta male or an incel. It is best for incels to focus on their own issues.
You said it didn't work for you in other posts. Just repeating what you said and pointing out to the elephant in the room.
 

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You said it didn't work for you in other posts. Just repeating what you said and pointing out to the elephant in the room.
I've also said I've never had a viable social circle. There's no elephant.
 

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@Barrister said a good bit of what I was going to say. Being sociable as a habit, as a matter of being is the real skill. If you are an interesting conversationalist, a likable person then you are going to be attractive to people.

This skill of being sociable will translate into you meeting people with ease and making friends easily. I have a larger social circle than I can keep up with on a daily or weekly basis. I gained that social circle by being sociable and comfortable with myself and likable.

The other ingredient in this, in my view, is figure out what you like to do and go do it. Be social there and go alone if you don’t know anyone. Obviously it’s best to be comfortable going alone, but even if you aren’t you can go anyway and you’ll learn to be Ok. At one time I was freaked out by going alone to venues. But doing lots of solo business travel I didn’t want to be cooped up in my hotel all the time either. I like good wine & am a foodie. So I’d find the best wine/foodie restaurant in whatever city and I’d go eat & have a glass of wine at the bar. I met the most fascinating people, made some long term friends, got over my social anxieties and became a ‘regular’ in certain spots, which can be its own cache & social proof. It’s cool when you walk in somewhere & someone says, “Hey BE, how’s things? It’s been a minute.” and viola instant street cred.

So being sociable is more the key in my opinion. I’m not going to say “be yourself” but you certainly want to be comfortable with yourself (and yes you can fake it til you make it in that way.)

If there is some cool place you want to check out? Just go. Visit with people around you and enjoy the experience. You never know who you’ll meet.
 
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