All of this rejection is making me depressed

[Francis]

Unfortunetly we all get slapped with rejection from women. You have to try and keep in mind what one girl thinks dosnt make it law. There are billions of women, If we all got along yes it would be paradise but we arn’t wired that way.

Agreed. I remember talking to a good friend years ago about the problems I was having with women at the time. (For reference, when we were in our late teens, he was banging a lot of women.) He basically told me "you win some, you lose some". And it's true. He approached and flirted with a LOT of women, which is something I witnessed from everyone who was good at the game. They were assertive and went for it with no care about the results.

In all honesty, they dealt with the same crap everyone else does. They just didn't get as invested and got out as soon as they got laid. And they were not afraid to be sexual right from the beginning.

 

[DonBud94]

Chin up and on to the next. One is bound to say yes but for that you have to keep going.

 

[DonBud94]

Case in point: Spam Approach advice.

OP, if you are doing daygame then lots of rejection is normal. But here's the key - how is she rejecting you? I see a daygame rejection as not getting a bang. I think that at the very least 1 in 10 women should be giving you their number. If every single woman you approach is saying No and telling you that she has a Boyfriend, then you need to work on your cold approach skills.

If you're doing OLD and you are getting matches and they aren't wanting to meet you, then you have bad text game and you need to fix it.

Yeah. What he said,

 

[Francis]

There's a mistaken belief that success with women is a numbers game - "if you approach 200 women, 1 will be available" - this is otherwise known as spam approaching and, where I'm from, we basically piss on guys who do that.

It is a number's game for sure, but you shouldn't have to spam approach like you said. It's more along the lines of, if you find a woman you like, go for it. And there should be plenty of those around. You shouldn't limit yourself, but your odds of success shouldn't be outrageously bad either.

Women are too flaky, indecisive, unpredictable, etc to be relied upon. Doesn't matter if they have high interest in you -- it doesn't mean it's in the bag, or that they won't find someone else who lives 2 blocks closer. Gotta keep dating around and finding new prospects.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Don't mean to come off as harsh, bro. But this spam approaching/"It's a numbers Game" mentality has to be nuked.

It is Indian Taxi Driver level creepy.

Exactly a guy needs to calibrate his approach accordingly after each rejection, try different stuff and see what works best with his style.

You are right Indians spam approach with zero game and think it's a viable strategy.

 

[Robert28]

The rejections of cold approaching are NOTHING to get over. Same with online matches who never go on dates with you. It’s the ones you’ve spent time getting to know and been out with several times that mess with your mind.

 

[DonBud94]

Don't mean to come off as harsh, bro. But this spam approaching/"It's a numbers Game" mentality has to be nuked.

It is Indian Taxi Driver level creepy.

You good, I dint even know spam approach was a thing.
I write what I do and how I do.

 

[Francis]

It's a numbers game only in so-much that you actually have to do approaches.

Beyond that it really is all down to your approach skills.

Here's reality. No woman is actually "taken" in this current world. Hypergamy is rampant. Even if she has a BF or is married, then that will not stop her if she digs you. In fact, in many cases women in relationships are easier because the dude she's with is a beta (by the very definition) because he has committed to her. Commitment is Beta, unfortunately, so when a woman says that she "has a boyfriend", whether it's true or not, it just means that she's not attracted to you.

Right, I am aware of that (to a degree, not everyone is disloyal). Most of the women who have shown interest in me were already taken. These days it is usually married women, and they are mostly interested in sex. (Back in the day I went the relationship route, thinking that's what they wanted, lol. So naive.) I can't recall a time where I was given the boyfriend line, so that doesn't apply here.

We might just disagree on the numbers game part. Some girls aren't going to dig you no matter what, and you have to keep trying with other prospects. Just a simple fact of life. No one is going to attract everyone, whether that's friendships, dating or otherwise. Best to keep trying with anyone you find attractive -- it doesn't have to be super serious.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Beyond that it really is all down to your approach skills.

You recognize the lack of social skills many men here face. Since you are very good at approach, and with women in general. Instead of being vague and telling guys to get better game, and stop simping. Why don't you start taking mental minutes on some of the conversations you have with women that led to success in some way, then post them on here verbatim. So guys can get a framework of what proper game looks like. We know everyone's game will be different, but it will be a helpful guide none the less.

 

[zinc4]

I feel you, man. I'm in the middle of a demoralizing losing streak right now - it helps to know you're not the only one going through it, though.

I got rejected by this Mexican girl a week or two ago after she had continued showing strong signs of interest for a bit. I look back objectively at the date, and quite frankly, I seriously can't point the finger at where I went wrong.

I damn near deported her ass after the kiss rejection....puta.

It is what it is. I'm improving significantly in several other aspects of my life right now, so that keeps me going.

Mexican girls are difficult to deal with in general. Venezuelans are the easiest latinas to deal with imo. Mexicanas are all putas imo.

 

[flipflip]

I think I'm gonna forget about regular women and just have sex with escorts. It's not fullfilling but at least its fun

 

[DonJuanjr]

Your mindset is simply this:

"If I approach her, is this girl going to interest me or will I get bored? Is she going to make me attracted to her, and turn me on? Is she worthy? Well, I'm going to go talk to her and find out."

I've been unlearning everything about game I've read on here. I decided to reduce it all to a simple concept. "Become my true masculine self. Men are superior to women. Act like it."

 

[Francis]

This would make sense if women were purely visual creatures. They are not. Men are different. For example, I hate fat chicks and nothing she could say or do could ever change my mind. If she's fat she's out.

Women are much more wholistic. It largely comes down to how you make her "feel". This comes from a combination of communication, body language and an ability to manipulate her emotions. This really does mean that any woman, feasibly, can be banged if you touch her mind in the right way. Some women are unavailable to all men because of her emotional state on that day, this is true. Maybe her dog died or something. But this is rare IMO.

Reality is that most rejections are down to the guy just not turning her on. I see too many average looking guys with awesome Game bang hot women to ignore that fact that success is largely dependent on your communication abilities and swag around women.

Could be. All I know is that for myself and people I've known who were successful with women, it was largely about looks. Perhaps there were other attractive traits that I didn't / don't pay much attention to, such as confidence, personality, social skills, status, etc, because that was there as well.

I personally never chased a woman, and was pretty closed off for a long time, so inadvertently it could've been my aloofness and disinterest viewed as a "challenge" that also sparked their interest. There's a lot of variables that probably go unnoticed.

 

[Robert28]

This would make sense if women were purely visual creatures. They are not. Men are different. For example, I hate fat chicks and nothing she could say or do could ever change my mind. If she's fat she's out.

Women are much more wholistic. It largely comes down to how you make her "feel". This comes from a combination of communication, body language and an ability to manipulate her emotions. This really does mean that any woman, feasibly, can be banged if you touch her mind in the right way. Some women are unavailable to all men because of her emotional state on that day, this is true. Maybe her dog died or something. But this is rare IMO.

Reality is that most rejections are down to the guy just not turning her on. I see too many average looking guys with awesome Game bang hot women to ignore that fact that success is largely dependent on your communication abilities and swag around women.

This is true but not entirely. Women absolutely are visual creatures. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t care about such things like height, tattoos, hairlines, etc. A good looking guy with bad game will Trump an average guy with tight game 99% of the time. She’s going to give that good looking guy more leeway, more benefit of the doubt, more chances to mess up while gaming her. You will never make her emotional being an average guy, she honestly won’t care what type of game you try to run on her.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I wouldn't say men are superior, in general.

Men can survive on their own without civilized society. Most inventors are men. Men are strong enough to gather meat. Women excel at manipulating men out of resources because they cannot survive on their own. I'd say men are superior.

 

[Focal core]

Wimmen got rejected all the times, even worst pump n dump by the guy they want.. Keep approaching men.. Show that interest.. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Robert28]

You've got it in reverse, my friend. And you'll do a lot better with women when you come to terms with this fact of life:

An average looking guy with tight game will trump a handsome dude with no game. Every single time. I see it all the time. Being handsome and not having game is actually a death sentence because it's so incongruous. If you're handsome then a woman expects you to have Game. If you don't have Game and you're handsome she'll get really confused and a bit creeped out.

An average guy with tight game may get her to go on a date, may get her to date for awhile I’m between Chad’s, but he will NEVER own her mind and emotions like Chad. Being handsome with minimal game gets you a ton of free passes and chances that normal guys with tight game don’t get. That’s why they HAVE to have such tight game, they’d never get anywhere if they didn’t. Chad gets chances the average guy will never even dream of getting.

 

[Robert28]

Wimmen got rejected all the times, even worst pump n dump by the guy they want.. Keep approaching men.. Show that interest.. Nothing wrong with that.

That’s not rejection though. These women are fvcking around with guys they have no business fvcking around with or they’re trying to bat out of their league.

 

[flipflip]

Just focus on your goals, bro. It's a much more productive use of your time.

For the record, escorts have feelings too! Just kidding. But I think what you suffer from is what's called a Madonna-wh0re complex where you categorize women into either good/innocent or bad/slutty. This is too black & white and inevitably leads to you getting played. The movie Taxi driver describes this reasonably well.

Tbh I dont trust any women anymore. I had an ex who loved me one day and ghosted me the next. It really ****ed with my mind. Modern dating/relationships are brutal. It really doesnt feel like its worth it anymore. I feel like I'm chasing a mirage and it's time to quit.

 

[Robert28]

Tbh I dont trust any women anymore. I had an ex who loved me one day and ghosted me the next. It really ****ed with my mind. Modern dating/relationships are brutal. It really doesnt feel like its worth it anymore. I feel like I'm chasing a mirage and it's time to quit.

That’s honestly the way to be.