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More and more girls on OLD are countering with a video chat after I ask them out for drinks. I see this as a compliance test and a extra hurdle to getting them out so I can work my magic on them. When a date doesn't go well you get to walk away with the experience and when you reflect on what went badly you at least got awareness on something to improve or overcome a sticking point. I feel a video chat deprives me from the bare minimum I can get from a date, while giving her the chance to find out everything she needs to know. I usually ghost them when they suggest a video chat.

What are your thoughts on this? Am I seeing this to negatively? How do you guys handle this?
 

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More and more girls on OLD are countering with a video chat after I ask them out for drinks. I see this as a compliance test and a extra hurdle to getting them out so I can work my magic on them. When a date doesn't go well you get to walk away with the experience and when you reflect on what went badly you at least got awareness on something to improve or overcome a sticking point. I feel a video chat deprives me from the bare minimum I can get from a date, while giving her the chance to find out everything she needs to know. I usually ghost them when they suggest a video chat.

What are your thoughts on this? Am I seeing this to negatively? How do you guys handle this?
I don’t do OLD,but if a girl asks for a video chat,give it to her.She isn’t going to see anything she won’t see when you meetup with her anyway.Hesitation to do so either connotes that you have something to hide or lack confidence. I mean,it’s just a video chat.
 

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I doubt that it's a compliance test. Unfortunately, video chatting seems to be today's trend.
Back when I was doing the personals, I would suggest a phone call beforehand. This way, I'd have some idea of there was potential continuity.

If I was doing the on-line thing now, I doubt that I'd personally agree to the video chat option. Perhaps it's just my generation, but I view texting and video chats and impersonal and 'non-organic.'
 

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More and more girls on OLD are countering with a video chat after I ask them out for drinks. I see this as a compliance test and a extra hurdle to getting them out so I can work my magic on them. When a date doesn't go well you get to walk away with the experience and when you reflect on what went badly you at least got awareness on something to improve or overcome a sticking point. I feel a video chat deprives me from the bare minimum I can get from a date, while giving her the chance to find out everything she needs to know. I usually ghost them when they suggest a video chat.

What are your thoughts on this? Am I seeing this to negatively? How do you guys handle this?
I've done a ton of OLD and have did some OLD recently (during the summer). Not once in my life have I ever had a girl ask to do a video chat before meeting up. I honestly would next her and move on. There should be plenty of women on there who won't make a stupid demand like that.
 

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Personally I don't. Just try and steer to meeting up. Don't feel comfortable chatting to potential romantic partner over video.

Feel it sells me short, come across better, more 'feeling'/vibe/presence in person. No chance physical contact doesn't help the cause either.

I've avoided it before, to the point where women will get pissed off and no doubt think something odds going on, so it fizzles out, but I refuse to do it.
You may be different of course.
 
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More and more girls on OLD are countering with a video chat after I ask them out for drinks. I see this as a compliance test and a extra hurdle to getting them out so I can work my magic on them. When a date doesn't go well you get to walk away with the experience and when you reflect on what went badly you at least got awareness on something to improve or overcome a sticking point. I feel a video chat deprives me from the bare minimum I can get from a date, while giving her the chance to find out everything she needs to know. I usually ghost them when they suggest a video chat.

What are your thoughts on this? Am I seeing this to negatively? How do you guys handle this?
I don't do OLD and have stated this many times but I understand why some people do so here we go.

I also don't think this is a compliance test. Women do not think in terms of compliance. Men do.

It can be so many things but to keep things simple: This is the new norm of OLD. You are "meeting" someone online, and with Zoom calls and virtual meetings being the norm, it is only natural for this to transfer into OLD. If anything I could see this as another women screener. They want to play it safe and get a feel for you before making any effort. Meaning, this is just one more hurdle to go through. And with women fleeing for the hills as soon as they sense something is off if you are not comfortable with video chats, this will likely get you screened out.

Stay away from that and set the tone, frame, and intend of the interaction. That is your responsibility.


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More and more girls on OLD are countering with a video chat after I ask them out for drinks. I see this as a compliance test and a extra hurdle to getting them out so I can work my magic on them. When a date doesn't go well you get to walk away with the experience and when you reflect on what went badly you at least got awareness on something to improve or overcome a sticking point. I feel a video chat deprives me from the bare minimum I can get from a date, while giving her the chance to find out everything she needs to know. I usually ghost them when they suggest a video chat.

What are your thoughts on this? Am I seeing this to negatively? How do you guys handle this?
Solution:

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Well honestly I do not do OLD cuz i think it is mostly a big grind and waste of time. The conversion rate is really low vs the hours you need to put in chatting etc. I like IRL betters so i don't have this issue really.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Man, I used to love that phone. The battery would last a whole week of heavy use. And the only game I needed in my life was racket.

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Ye, honestly; its great phone and it is almost impossible to kill it.
No surveillance, no personal intrusions, no ads, no gps etc and no distraction. It just does what you really need from a phone: calls and sms text. The sounds on the that phone (notifications and ring tones), are horrible tho and straight from hell which is the only big negative with that phone :devil: xD
 

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People tend to look worse in video chat than they do in real life.

I'd be careful of any girl attempting to push this as there's a good chance she's looking for flaws. She can scrutinize you without having to deal with any in-person charisma and kino-ing getting in the way of her agenda/process.

Another angle is that she may want you to "see her at her worst" because otherwise how are you going to deserve her "best"?

Kind of like how women will push for a phone call and then mumble their way through the entire phone conversation. Or wanting a "right now" pic while you are texting her late at night and you are likely both tired and haggard. So they can scrutinize you while lowering their perceived attractiveness at the same time.

As @Modern Man Advice said, "they want to play it safe and get a feel for you before making any effort." I wouldn't have a mindset of simply complying though. As with any kind of game or war, you need to strategize against an opponent.

I'd only engage in a video call if the female was at or near the top end of your range, and be careful to makes sure your presentation is on point. But first I'd try and screen out these kind of women. They're basically announcing they require more work for you to get laid than the women who don't demand a video call. If there's a bunch of verbiage in their bio/profile about "God" or "No Hookups" or "Looking for my soulmate" there's a good chance they will want a video call (if they don't state it directly)

Another option is to build up more comfort/attraction before asking her out for drinks. If that doesn't work, say you have a headache, minor family emergency, or a super-busy schedule if she tries to schedule it for a different day. If she still insists and you aren't that into her, I'd just let her go (unless you want to practice your video call "game").

And as a final point, video calls can hide fat as well as any Myspace Angle.
 
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I have had plenty of women ask me for a video chat. Most wanted to video chat with me before going out so they wouldn’t “waste their time”. It’s a red flag for me. These women are a headache to deal with. No guy will be good enough. Would she ask Brad Pitt for a video chat? Lol
 

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if she has not met you yet, and none of her friends know you then it's fine. like any other meeting just do the meeting and have fun with it. maybe even initiate some of them so you can practice. part of figuring out the NEW ways. just practice and be good at it. the first one will likely be a disaster.

obviously, it's triage, if you have a meetup with someone and a video to choose from it's an easy choice. if a video with a possible or nothing...

never forget that video can be captured... and can be posted on social media.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Also look at it positively. You're not spending money, not wasting gas or travel time. And if yall hit it off, the date you both physically attend will have a greater chance of ending with a lay.
Agreed.

You also have to look at it from her perspective too.

Women go on MANY bad first dates so she's also looking to save time and $. Back in the "old days" of dating like 10-20 years ago, some women wanted to talk on the phone first. I always hated this but if she was hot I'd do it but then cut the call after about 10-15 minutes and say I had to go and try to set up a real date if I liked her.

For you old Seinfeld fans, think of the phone and video as "going out on a high note" ala George Costanza.

Good luck.
 

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I do OLD and I have never been asked for a video call prior to meeting up. Maybe this is more of an american thing
 

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I do OLD and I have never been asked for a video call prior to meeting up. Maybe this is more of an american thing
I don't think I have either.

I would never agree to a video chat though. I abhor them. A quick phone call is the most I'd consider.
 

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I do OLD and I have never been asked for a video call prior to meeting up. Maybe this is more of an american thing
I'm from N-W Europe. And I've noticed it since everybody started working from home using zoom/teams.
 

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Thanks for the input guys, I think I'll give a couple of them a try and see how it fits.
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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