The Way I See it, I have Two Options

[bat soup]

Here's a more detailed description of what's going on there:

Why do I not find my wife attractive?

I don't find my wife sexually attractive. Been married for over a year and have not had sex, not because she didn't want it, but because I did not want to do it with her. There's nothing wrong with the way she looks, but she does not have any confidence in the way she looks (body issues) and I...

www.sosuave.net

Ah, I see. I thought this was just some girl that you knew. I think you should get a divorce. If that looks like too much of a big step just yet, try taking a break or going on a trip somewhere to sort out your feelings and clear your mind. You need to get used to being alone again, being free again and see how it makes you feel. Do you miss her or do you want to continue being free?

 

[Plinco]

Ah, I see. I thought this was just some girl that you knew. I think you should get a divorce. If that looks like too much of a big step just yet, try taking a break or going on a trip somewhere to sort out your feelings and clear your mind. You need to get used to being alone again, being free again and see how it makes you feel. Do you miss her or do you want to continue being free?

That's exactly what we are doing now. She's visiting family for several months and I have been working on my business in that time. It feels great, I miss her a little bit in some ways, in other ways not at all.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

You always talk about Troy Francis and James Tusk, sorry to say that but I've watched some on their videos and they are regular PUAs like Torrero and other scammers. Their "game" is not outstanding, actually it's weak sometimes. Tusk is a good looking guy, Francis too, I'm sure they get number but they don't get laid that much I'm pretty sure, not from cold approach. They don't impress me at all. They are PUA scammers like the rest, but it's less obvious.
Plus, regular guys can't play like they play, because they don't have the look. Tusk is a big Teddy Bear, but his look helps him to buy time during the approach, the other guy Francis is ok too but he doesn't get laid with young 20 something hot chix, no. I'm surprized that you believe they get laid like rockstars, or maybe I misunderstood. I'm experienced enough to know that those 2 guys are pua scammers too, they approach ok but trust me they don't get the results they pretend to get. They get # but they get flaked on like the rest of us. I know, I've been approaching and dating chix so hot it's hard to believe they are real, but it's almost impossible to bed them. The money/material factor is important, look and game are not enough. If they get laid a lot it's not because of their game, it's because of the ressources they can provide. I have nothing against them, I just think you should stop using them as the perfect example of what "game" should be like. Every time you mention them you loose a bit of credibility, I used to think you were a real go-getter but now I doubt?? Anyway it's not important, not my intention to start an argument with you, you're one of my favorite poster. Just find it strange that you relate to those 2 bozos who make money on naive guys. They are just the new pua parasites, it's getting harder and harder to date, and those 2 make it even harder (harassment).
Cheers man

Just as an example, it looks staged and he is so needy at the end.. Trust me, those guys are scammers. Nothing new.

The point isn't them. It's for ever dork or geek shilling rubbish ebooks or programs. Zero receipts. No pulling. Never approaching.

Live on air podcast in approaches is next level.

I don't have a ebook. I don't 5hr podcast hypergamy tangents while house husband. Find your own path. I took value from them. I took value from rsd particularly pre media scandal. MM and mystery.

Troy is nearly 50. He has approached more in 1podcast then most men have their entire life. Tusk is nearly 40. Chad sure but he's putting in work.

Find your own path. Whatever works and gives you results. For me it's been approaching.

Find old rsd archive. None are Chads.

 

[Plinco]

I have more carefully examined my situation, and I've concluded that there is no option #3, and option #1 is very unlikely.

 

[Plinco]

What I want most:

1. Biological immortality.
   
2. Permeate popular culture with Objectivism.

Likes:

• Youth, good health, having opportunities, which creates low anxiety
  
• Challenging situations that are not too dangerous
  
• Self-control/independence (practicing proper epistemology)
  
• Ecology/hiking through the woods
  
• Technological development

Dislikes:

• Observing dependency in others
  
• Losing a contest, or career objective
  
• Disorganization
  
• Aging/sickness
  
• Being affected by circumstances that are beyond my contro

New additional goals:



Build muscle

Get a bigger weight set
Get a good training plan
Get all of vitamins and supplements I need
Perfect my diet


Win fights

Do some initial practice on my kick bag
Join a dojo

promote myself and objectivism by a vlog

Get a camera that I can travel with
Practice speaking fluently


Pros:

Gain respect
Feel better physically
Having more fun with late teens and early 20’s women
Promote Objectivism

Cons:

Damage to my body
Takes up more of my time
Much higher rejection rate
More hard work involved


If I don’t feel excited about my wife coming back and there is no ‘spark’ then I will have no choice but to divorce with her. Before I married her, her traits ‘worked well on paper’ but don’t work in practice due to her not giving off the energy I need to feel sexually excited.

 

[Barrister]

You base both options off of women's perception of you. Not to mention early to mid-40s is essentially where men's SMV can be at its highest. I think you need a need mindset. Be improving for yourself. Women will come with the territory once you make said improvements. But do it for YOU. The rest will fall in place.

 

[Plinco]

You base both options off of women's perception of you. Not to mention early to mid-40s is essentially where men's SMV can be at its highest. I think you need a need mindset. Be improving for yourself. Women will come with the territory once you make said improvements. But do it for YOU. The rest will fall in place.

What makes you think I'm basing my options from women's perceptions?

 

[Barrister]

What makes you think I'm basing my options from women's perceptions?

Well - option 1 was hoping romance takes hold. Option 2 was "getting back into fighting shape" to go after younger women. You did mention expanding your business in option 2 - a good idea. Otherwise, your OP focused solely on the female front. This leads me to believe that a woman's perception of you is important (as it is to a lot of us to a degree, we want to feel desired). I am saying to dial that back and simply focus on yourself and the rest will fall into place.

 

[Plinco]

Well - option 1 was hoping romance takes hold. Option 2 was "getting back into fighting shape" to go after younger women. You did mention expanding your business in option 2 - a good idea. Otherwise, your OP focused solely on the female front. This leads me to believe that a woman's perception of you is important (as it is to a lot of us to a degree, we want to feel desired). I am saying to dial that back and simply focus on yourself and the rest will fall into place.

Okay now I know where you are coming from. Implementing option #2 in some form was going to happen regardless, however the two areas that change if I cannot find my wife attractive, is that I would have to get a divorce, and the building muscle part I would work on faster since that determines a lot of my smv. You are correct in this sense, but I don't know what I would do if I were not getting laid.

 

[Plinco]

My only option is to build muscle and to train to fight; grow my business and maintain a vlog so I can get into politics. The questions are, do I have the self-discipline to make this happen, and will my nearly middle aged body allow this?

 

[Plinco]

And also I need another business plan. I don't currently have any other business plans right now, but I need one that is more passive.

 

[Plinco]

Then why is there a problem?

The problem is that I got knee deep in a relationship with this woman that I now probably have to untangle.

 

[Grounded eagle]

Option one:


Stick with this platonic relationship and hope that I will be happy and it will turn romantic. I don’t have any desire to go very far with her, which makes neither of us turned on sexually.

I spend resources on this failed relationship (or maybe not failed) and slow the growth of my business, don’t have time to do politics, etc.



Option two:


Be this old fart in his forties (currently 37) and get back into fighting and hitting on young women (18 to 22) at the mall. Expand my business, start a vlog, and get into politics. I’m fast approaching 40 and my body will at some point start breaking down (still perfectly healthy at 37) and will be fighting dudes 20 years younger than me.


Option one I go out in a whimper, and option two I go out in a bang. If you were me, what would you do?

I don’t see why you think 37 is too old. You can still do whatever you want man.It certainly beats staying in a ****ty situation.

 

[Grounded eagle]

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I'd like to hear this option 3. If I'm not settled down, or heck even if I were settled down, I wanna compensate for my lack of success in my youth. I want to get my body in top notch shape and get back into Jujitsu.

If I'm single, I'm going to be hitting on college aged girls, no way around that. Young and energetic girls is what turns me on, which makes me a creepy f*** regardless. I figure it's best to own it and at least do it well.

If you’re in shape and financially well off,the last people who’ll find you creepy will be the girls you hit on.Especially if they’re college girls.

 

[Grounded eagle]

To clarify, it's me that does not want her.

Then why is this a conversation?

 

[typical]

A win is a win my guy

the only time I’ll get fatalistic is if I’ve chiseled my body, got serious muscle, make lots of money, and have worked on my game and STILL can’t get hot girls, then I’ll despair. Till then, there’s hope

Excellent mindset man.

It’s 5:30 in the morning here NZ is in a nationwide lockdown. I’m in my garage/gym on the treadmill working up a sweat before doing some squats ....... I’m 37 years old. The 26 year old “friend” is sleeping upstairs.

I still have yet to make a million dollar profit in my lifetime. Earning a million is easy but making a million in pure profit is not so easy.

I love your diehard attitude.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Excellent mindset man.

It’s 5:30 in the morning here NZ is in a nationwide lockdown. I’m in my garage/gym on the treadmill working up a sweat before doing some squats ....... I’m 37 years old. The 26 year old “friend” is sleeping upstairs.

I still have yet to make a million dollar profit in my lifetime. Earning a million is easy but making a million in pure profit is not so easy.

I love your diehard attitude.

Thank you brother. I’d like to see more support from men to other guys genuinely living their live with purpose and dedication to their goals. This forum is mostly kj or incels but it gives me tremendous pride and gratitude when I see a man like yourself take the time to give a digital “nod” much respect. Keep killing it brother

 

[typical]

Thank you brother. I’d like to see more support from men to other guys genuinely living their live with purpose and dedication to their goals. This forum is mostly kj or incels but it gives me tremendous pride and gratitude when I see a man like yourself take the time to give a digital “nod” much respect. Keep killing it brother

A digital nod is all I can do .... unless I want to risk financial political and social ruin and post it openly as myself

I’ve seen the world become more and more feminine over the last 15 years and more and more men behave life doormats then ever before.

I remember stumbling upon this forum as a 19 year old boy wanting advice on his “oneitis” and instead I got the advice and guidance to turn the boy into a man. One that isn’t stumbling at every step in his life but literally grabbing a solid hold over it and now after so long actually winning.

Own house mortgage free living very comfortably. Business is a partnership with my best friend who I would say is “purple” pilled but he’s a “natural” and never needed a website to help him. Business earned over a million in 2019 (NZ dollars mind you) BUT with expenses through the roof we only made a small $225k profit.

I wish I could be like Rollo and publicly and openly post what I want without fear of reprisal. But I live in a small country and anything against the feminist imperative would destroy me.

Sorry for the hijack

 

[SargeMaximus]

A digital nod is all I can do .... unless I want to risk financial political and social ruin and post it openly as myself

I’ve seen the world become more and more feminine over the last 15 years and more and more men behave life doormats then ever before.

I remember stumbling upon this forum as a 19 year old boy wanting advice on his “oneitis” and instead I got the advice and guidance to turn the boy into a man. One that isn’t stumbling at every step in his life but literally grabbing a solid hold over it and now after so long actually winning.

Own house mortgage free living very comfortably. Business is a partnership with my best friend who I would say is “purple” pilled but he’s a “natural” and never needed a website to help him. Business earned over a million in 2019 (NZ dollars mind you) BUT with expenses through the roof we only made a small $225k profit.

I wish I could be like Rollo and publicly and openly post what I want without fear of reprisal. But I live in a small country and anything against the feminist imperative would destroy me.

Sorry for the hijack

Nice. I’m still in the poor class myself. Can’t stand most people so I can’t start a business that would be very lucrative. Best I can do is invest my money and hope my theory about a commodity boom coming up is right, if it is: I’ll make bank.

Then I will find a way to live outside the system as much as possible and maybe even develop a community of like minded peeps

 

[Plinco]

Nice. I’m still in the poor class myself. Can’t stand most people so I can’t start a business that would be very lucrative. Best I can do is invest my money and hope my theory about a commodity boom coming up is right, if it is: I’ll make bank.

Then I will find a way to live outside the system as much as possible and maybe even develop a community of like minded peeps

I recommend that after you get your stuff together seek to either create or take over institutions.