What is the Black Pill?

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Blue pill = ignorance; misguided thinking & behaviour rooted in idealism

Red pill = reality; pragmatic thinking & behaviour rooted in understanding women's true nature

Purple pill = red pill understanding of women's true nature, but retention of blue pill idealistic desires

Black pill = external blame used as rationalization for one's lack of success with women; belief that the game is stacked against men, specifically those who are not in the top tier of looks; often a bitter mindset held by incels and groups such as MGTOW
I had no idea a purple even existed, but it looks like i fit into that. Black pill does seem extremely bitter tbh. I won't deny the dating landscape sucks though
 

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Brother, you were just talking about demonic possession. But you’re going to give a fellow poster a hard time about vaccines. Lol
Demonic attacks and possession is the first or second to first reason that I cant escortcel. I am not worried about similar attack with covid vaccine. However the level of apprehension to both are about the same.
 

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Black pill does seem extremely bitter tbh. I won't deny the dating landscape sucks though
Yeah the black pill also has elements of fatalism attached to it, in that black pilled men often believe that, due to circumstances outside their control, they are unable to change their results (or at least be responsible for doing so)

Demonic attacks and possession is the first or second to first reason that I cant escortcel. I am not worried about similar attack with covid vaccine. However the level of apprehension to both are about the same.
I will slide in your DMs so fvcking hard handing out warnings you'll think I'm a motherfvcking demon if you don't stop derailing threads with your sh!t. Not every thread you enter needs "demonic attacks "and the "vaccine" injected into the discussion.
 

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Yeah the black pill also has elements of fatalism attached to it, in that black pilled men often believe that, due to circumstances outside their control, they are unable to change their results (or at least be responsible for doing so)
I just don't get why they don't bother with self improvement, it's very easy to go up a few points just by working out and dessing nice.
 

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I just don't get why they don't bother with self improvement, it's very easy to go up a few points just by working out and dessing nice.
It's even easier for them not to take responsibility and put in the effort to achieve meaningful results, hence why they generally take the path least resistance.

In their defence, even if they do put in effort for a sustained period of time, "the dating landscape sucks" as you mentioned. There's some truth to that, at least it's a lot truer today than it was even just 5 years ago...

If your SMV is low or your results with women are dismal because of factors largely outside of your control (height, face, location, women's preferences & high standards, etc), it's a lot easier to become demoralized and bitter.

I understand why people would become black pilled. I would just argue it's not a productive mindset that will manifest any meaningful change. Most black pilled men also come off overly negative and as if they're not in the most desirable place mentally. Even those who claim they're happy with their life as it is, I'm sure they'd be even happier if they had better results with women... Why wouldn't you be.
 

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Yeah the black pill also has elements of fatalism attached to it, in that black pilled men often believe that, due to circumstances outside their control, they are unable to change their results (or at least be responsible for doing so)



I will slide in your DMs so fvcking hard handing out warnings you'll think I'm a motherfvcking demon if you don't stop derailing threads with your sh!t. Not every thread you enter needs "demonic attacks "and the "vaccine" injected into the discussion.
I did not bring that up. @Barrister did. He gets a pass?
 

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@corrector, simply put, the black pill believers are losers and males who are humans that will never amount to anything worthy in life. While they may have the ability to do so, they've just given up and piss and moan every day on how Chads, Thads and Rads get all the females and we're too ugly to get Ms. Piggy.

How does a black pill male change this around? Well, for one, he needs to cut the crap and take ownership on his own actions in life. Then, get a purpose, work on that purpose, get into at least average shape (which is better than 60% of American dudes) and things will turn around. However, that's hard, so they will not do this.

People are lazy. Life, in general, is too easy for us. Yes, more expensive and complex, but basically, we all have food, shelter and basic necessities. This is not pre-1980, where people actually had to work. We have governments around the world giving people money NOT to work. The whole world is basically f ucked up.
 

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While they may have the ability to do so, they've just given up and piss and moan every day on how Chads, Thads and Rads get all the females and we're too ugly to get Ms. Piggy.
I've seen plenty of fat, out of shape, unemployed guys get laid. Maybe they won't get a girl as hot as the Chads, or have as many options as them, or have a five deep rotation of HB9s. But they could likely get something, if they'd drop the negativity and work on whatever it is that's holding them back. I think most guys instinctively know what that is, or can figure it out if they get out there and put some work in.
 

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I've seen plenty of fat, out of shape, unemployed guys get laid. Maybe they won't get a girl as hot as the Chads, or have as many options as them, or have a five deep rotation of HB9s. But they could likely get something, if they'd drop the negativity and work on whatever it is that's holding them back. I think most guys instinctively know what that is, or can figure it out if they get out there and put some work in.
The problem is I don't think the thread that was referenced here sounds negative at all. If someone says they are not motivated, they are content with their life, how is that negative? What comes across as negative in those threads is people who say they are not, they should be miserable because they are not getting laid, or don't understand why they are not motivated. Look at the first post of @FruitLoops's thread. He said he's content. How is that complaining?
 

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What comes across as negative in those threads is people who say they are not, they should be miserable because they are not getting laid, or don't understand why they are not motivated.
Most black pill guys come across as angry and unhappy, like they've been unfairly cut out of something. If they are happy with not having women in their lives, if that's what they really want, great for them. I'm talking about guys who are negative in that they would like to be able to attract women, but don't believe they are capable of it. For reasons that are, to them, unfair. This makes them bitter.

But while they may never be a Chad, they could probably have at least a little more success if they had a positive attitude instead of a negative attitude. Almost everything works better with a positive attitude.
 

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I keep seeing people talk about this, but what exactly is it? Some guys say it means looks matter and others say it's a bleak outlook on the world.

But aren't those two just the red pill? What exactly is blackpill supposed to be?
The philosophy of men who are willing to accept their weaknesses as unchangeable and don’t believe in self improvement.Their predicaments are the faults of everyone but themselves.
 

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That's heavily promoted here on this "red-pill" site. In fact, red-pillers are making every effort to convince unmotivated members to do just that, even if they are not blackpill but volcel, because they portray sex as important as food, water, and maybe even air.
A very myopic way of defining the red pill.If there are only two things anyone should adopt from the red pill philosophy they should be:1.Improve yourself,improve all the facets of your life,live your best life,and women will not be a problem.
2.There is more to life than women.
Unfortunately,when it comes to women,most men are lost.So you’ll go to other forums or even see something on this forum and draw conclusions about the red pill. You will see guys speaking of sex like it’s all there is to life,and say,”This must be what all red pill guys are like,”,yet it couldn’t be further from the truth.These are in all probability blue pillers claiming to be red pillers,or red pill aware guys as opposed to red pilled guys.There is a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path,and that is exactly the reason you find so many holes in the way those so called red pillers do things,because it’s an act.It is not genuine.It is easier to be black pilled than it is to be red pilled,because it is a lot easier to blame circumstances or looks for lack of success with women than it is to put on your big boy pants and improve yourself.Not for women,but for YOURSELF.
 

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That’s because he’s in denial about women are visual creatures the same as men. No one has ever shown me proof that an ugly dude with game made a woman panties gush. Oh, yeah you hear stories but never anything to back it up.
Women are visual creatures,yes.But it’s nowhere as near as men are.A woman is more likely to get with a guy who’s a 5 in the looks department but a 9 in the social skills department,while as long as a woman is an 8,9 or 10,men will want to bang her.Her character may play a part in determining whether it’s a one night stand or LTR,but there would be no relationship to speak of if she was unattractive.
 

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A very myopic way of defining the red pill.If there are only two things anyone should adopt from the red pill philosophy they should be:1.Improve yourself,improve all the facets of your life,live your best life,and women will not be a problem.
2.There is more to life than women.
Unfortunately,when it comes to women,most men are lost.So you’ll go to other forums or even see something on this forum and draw conclusions about the red pill. You will see guys speaking of sex like it’s all there is to life,and say,”This must be what all red pill guys are like,”,yet it couldn’t be further from the truth.These are in all probability blue pillers claiming to be red pillers,or red pill aware guys as opposed to red pilled guys.There is a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path,and that is exactly the reason you find so many holes in the way those so called red pillers do things,because it’s an act.It is not genuine.It is easier to be black pilled than it is to be red pilled,because it is a lot easier to blame circumstances or looks for lack of success with women than it is to put on your big boy pants and improve yourself.Not for women,but for YOURSELF.
You are right. I think most posters and even some mods come out as a strong bluepill at heart. Good point about being red pill aware. But isnt blackpill redpill aware too?

I think when talking to a blackpill expert they will assume that your looks are AFTER you have looksmaxxed and gymmaxxed. If you refuse to looksmaxx and gymmaxx (unless there is a good reason) then you are volcel.

Blackpill advice wheb it comes to dating is common sense: 1) looksmax. 2) gymmaxx and do soft warm approaches in social circles. If you want yonger and hotter go to Asia. I always maintained going to Asia as their main advice since the start of the thread. There are some guys who despite looksmaxxing abd gymmaxxing still cant get traction. These are more of the sub5s in blackpill thought. The issue is allot of blackpill incels are really fake sub8 normies who feel resentful they are not getting the level of action with little efforts as the genetically gifted guy and resent putting that much work. A true sub5 gets treated really badly by women, not just ignored or not being noticed compared to a chad.

According to blackpill sites I am not true blackpill because I am too fat. We even lose good facial definition with too much weight. Fat people who dont shed the pounds are volcel to blackpill self improvement sites.
 
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red pill is acceptance, adaptation and advancing through that paradigm.

black pill is non acceptance or wishing things were different and blaming everyone else.
Red Pill: Leaves the house, notices it's raining, goes back into the house, grabs an umbrella and goes outside again.

Black Pill: Leaves the house, notices it's raining, goes back into the house, ignores the umbrella and spends the rest of the day crying and complaining about the rain that makes leaving the house impossible.
 

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You are right. I think most posters and even some mods come out as a strong bluepill at heart. Good point about being red pill aware. But isnt blackpill redpill aware too?

I think when talking to a blackpill expert they will assume that your looks are AFTER you have looksmaxxed and gymmaxxed. If you refuse to looksmaxx and gymmaxx (unless there is a good reason) then you are volcel.

Blackpill advice wheb it comes to dating is common sense: 1) looksmax. 2) gymmaxx and do soft warm approaches in social circles. If you want yonger and hotter go to Asia. I always maintained going to Asia as their main advice since the start of the thread. There are some guys who despite looksmaxxing abd gymmaxxing still cant get traction. These are more of the sub5s in blackpill thought. The issue is allot of blackpill incels are really fake sub8 normies who feel resentful they are not getting the level of action with little efforts as the genetically gifted guy and resent putting that much work. A true sub5 gets treated really badly by women, not just ignored or not being noticed compared to a chad.

According to blackpill sites I am not true blackpill because I am too fat. We even lose good facial definition with too much weight. Fat people who dont shed the pounds are volcel to blackpill self improvement sites.
Being black pilled and red pilled are very different.The former focuses on problems and lamentations while the latter focuses on solutions.In my opinion,being black pilled is worse than being blue pilled,because at least a blue pilled guy is the way he is because he doesn’t know any better,while a black pilled guy has some version (a severely warped one) of the truth,but chooses not to act on it.Being black pilled represents more than a flaw in your means and methods,it represents a flaw in your character,while being redpilled forces you to face the ugly truths not just about society but about yourself,and challenges you to be better.If you’re not willing to challenge yourself then you can blame the guy in the mirror for your outcomes.
 

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Being black pilled and red pilled are very different.The former focuses on problems and lamentations while the latter focuses on solutions.In my opinion,being black pilled is worse than being blue pilled,because at least a blue pilled guy is the way he is because he doesn’t know any better,while a black pilled guy has some version (a severely warped one) of the truth,but chooses not to act on it.Being black pilled represents more than a flaw in your means and methods,it represents a flaw in your character,while being redpilled forces you to face the ugly truths not just about society but about yourself,and challenges you to be better.If you’re not willing to challenge yourself then you can blame the guy in the mirror for your outcomes.
You did not read my post from the second paragraph. Just because its an umbrella term does not mean you focus on one aspect that suits your narrative and then ignore the other points where it does not. After all redpillers are disillusioned blue pillers. Blackpillers are disillusioned red pillers. They gave the bluepill, redpill a chance and neither worked.
 
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