Fuked up tonight

[powersize]

Would you think the chick just used me as a hangout partner till she finds a better dude?

Considering that the is new in my country and does not know a lot of people.

 

[manfrombelow]

Would you think the chick just used me as a hangout partner till she finds a better dude?

Considering that the is new in my country and does not know a lot of people.

So what if she did? I really don't think it's a big deal.

Let's focus on your original matter, OP.

You over-reacted aka lost your frame when she refused to come to your place to suck your hard d!ck. This is something you have to own, to learn by heart, to memorize so you won't repeat it the next time with the next women that'll come into your life.

For now, just leave her be, aka stop no contacts. The hardest thing in the world is not about doing what, it's about doing nothing. In this case, you have to do nothing, which means don't try to reach out to her.

 

[powersize]

So what if she did? I really don't think it's a big deal.

Let's focus on your original matter, OP.

You over-reacted aka lost your frame when she refused to come to your place to suck your hard d!ck. This is something you have to own, to learn by heart, to memorize so you won't repeat it the next time with the next women that'll come into your life.

For now, just leave her be, aka stop no contacts. The hardest thing in the world is not about doing what, it's about doing nothing. In this case, you have to do nothing, which means don't try to reach out to her.

Well learned man. How would you play this situation on your side?


I think I should just smile and play it indifferent, wait for her taxi, and then starting from the next day do not initiate any conversation until the sets a next date.

 

[bat soup]

Could be. She had some issue with credit card, so I ended up paying for everything. And than joked that she has to work those money out tonight. Maybe it pissed her off and resulted in refusal. Who knows

Oh man, she totally played you.

 

[powersize]

Ive had girls insanely pizzed at me and right at the peak freakout.

And they always contacted you after those situations so you can sexualize and play the crazy guy?

Just a small remark:

Do not know if it makes any difference in my case, i did not apologise for being an ashole, rather I apologised for leaving her alone on the street at night when I was not sure she can make her way home safely.

She read my message today and did not reply. So I will stick with all the advices above and leave her for now.

 

[bat soup]

To me it sounds likes she's an attention whoare that wanted (and got) a free meal.

"Oh, silly me, my credit card doesn't work and I just so happen to not have any cash"
"I'm on my period" (so what? you still have a mouth)
"I have stuff to do tomorrow" (which is why I can't have sex now, although I did have plenty of time for sucking down free food and drink)

 

[powersize]

To me it sounds likes she's an attention whoare that wanted (and got) a free meal.

"Oh, silly me, my credit card doesn't work and I just so happen to not have any cash"
"I'm on my period" (so what? you still have a mouth)
"I have stuff to do tomorrow" (which is why I can't have sex now, although I did have plenty of time for sucking down free food and drink)

The first reason could be legit one. She just moved here and did not get yet a credit card. Only a bank account. Two others - looks like BS for me. Under stuff to do she told me she has an appointment to get an internet access to her apartment in the morning. But the girl who really wants you - will find a way anyway.

Here is a background story to those who wanna know more:

A latina colleague from work. Advise needed

There is a new colleague at my team who just moved from a different country to my city. After a short chat she joked that I have to show her the city where I used to live. So I took it serious and last week we went out together. At night before the trip we drunk a bit, stayed at her place and...

www.sosuave.net

In my last post there I actually had a good frame while this time did not.

 

[bat soup]

The first reason could be legit one. She just moved here and did not get yet a credit card. Only a bank account. Two others - looks like BS for me. Under stuff to do she told me she has an appointment to get an internet access to her apartment in the morning. But the girl who really wants you - will find a way anyway.

Here is a background story to those who wanna know more:

A latina colleague from work. Advise needed

There is a new colleague at my team who just moved from a different country to my city. After a short chat she joked that I have to show her the city where I used to live. So I took it serious and last week we went out together. At night before the trip we drunk a bit, stayed at her place and...

www.sosuave.net

In my last post there I actually had a good frame while this time did not.

Everything could be true or could be false. If she said an elephant destroyed her car it could be true.

But with women, I'd assume they're lying if anything they say helps them avoid paying for things.

Take into account that a lot of women have the attitude that it's the man's job to pay, so good luck ever getting the money back from her.

I'd suspect that she deliberately went out with a card that didn't work or lied about not having money.

What kind of person goes out without the money to pay for what they expect to spend? How come these things only happen when she's with a man?

 

[powersize]

Everything could be true or could be false. If she said an elephant destroyed her car it could be true.

But with women, I'd assume they're lying if anything they say helps them avoid paying for things.

Take into account that a lot of women have the attitude that it's the man's job to pay, so good luck ever getting the money back from her.

I'd suspect that she deliberately went out with a card that didn't work or lied about not having money.

What kind of person goes out without the money to pay for what they expect to spend? How come these things only happen when she's with a man?

Let me clarify my original quote: at the very beginning once we went to the bar I asked her to sit at the table cause someone else can take that place - so this is when I payed for us both. Ok, not such a big deal. The time when I made the money joke if I recall correct was when we were at the part and she was sitting on me. I touched her tites, we kissed, and I started touching her down. So we were talking about some bullsh1t and I said something like: "so i am your sugar daddy cause I payed for you tonight. She said yes, and then I told her she has to work those money out tonight"

 

[derby1]

The first reason could be legit one. She just moved here and did not get yet a credit card. Only a bank account. Two others - looks like BS for me. Under stuff to do she told me she has an appointment to get an internet access to her apartment in the morning. But the girl who really wants you - will find a way anyway.

Here is a background story to those who wanna know more:

A latina colleague from work. Advise needed

There is a new colleague at my team who just moved from a different country to my city. After a short chat she joked that I have to show her the city where I used to live. So I took it serious and last week we went out together. At night before the trip we drunk a bit, stayed at her place and...

www.sosuave.net

In my last post there I actually had a good frame while this time did not.

you are way to invested in a woman who hasnt proved she is worthy of your time, or given you any Pootang.

if you do not sort this mindset out you will project it straight away the minute a chic messages you, how thirsty you are.

 

[powersize]

you are way to invested in a woman who hasnt proved she is worthy of your time, or given you any Pootang.

if you do not sort this mindset out you will project it straight away the minute a chic messages you, how thirsty you are.

How to fix it? Meet other girls and try to figure out whether they are really as good deep inside as they seem to look on a date with me?

 

[bat soup]

Let me clarify my original quote: at the very beginning once we went to the bar I asked her to sit at the table cause someone else can take that place - so this is when I payed for us both. Ok, not such a big deal. The time when I made the money joke if I recall correct was when we were at the part and she was sitting on me. I touched her tites, we kissed, and I started touching her down. So we were talking about some bullsh1t and I said something like: "so i am your sugar daddy cause I payed for you tonight. She said yes, and then I told her she has to work those money out tonight"

Maybe you took the joke a bit too far. Women can sometimes seem totally in to this kind of talk and even initiate it themselves. But it only takes one wrong word for them to suddenly get totally turned off.

 

[deadmasterx]

It's like sales, you gotta make your customer feel like he's the one losing by not buying your product, not you.

The thing is, the average woman wants to feel desired.

At the same pace that men are "respected" for getting lots of women, women are "respected" for rejecting lots of guys, because it implies that they have choices and are desired.

The thing is, women don't need sex. I have in my mind that sex for women is the ultimate way to get some validation. That's why the guys who don't feed their egos (or, most times, even shake or break it) are the ones she will give herself physically.

Of course there will be cases where women will give themselves for lower quality men just because they are desperate for attention and need validation by all means.

Thing is, women will oftenly use the seduction as a way to validate themselves over you. When you don't fall for it, it's when their trap turns against themselves.

When you lose control over the situation, displaying anger or any bad feelings, you're showing that you're immature and that she has won the game.

It happens to all of us, but it's always good to refresh the basics in your mind.

 

[powersize]

@Glassguy what is your 5 cents on my case?

 

[Toddz]

You already apologized so don't do it or act that way again.

At this point your best thing to do is nothing. Do not contact her again though. She hasn't replied so leave it at that, the ball is in her court to accept the apology or not. If you contact her again she is gone...

 

[powersize]

If you contact her again she is gone...

Yeah, I think now if I contact her it will seem like I am ready to lose all my self respect in exchange for that pu$$y and that will destroy the remaining interest that she might have. I have been already once in the position when i put one girl too high - she dumped me, than blocked over the time, and it took me half of the year to recover. No fuking way I gonna repeat that sh1t

 

[powersize]

What do you folks think about when you lose your frame cause of the girl instead of apologizing you flip the script, back off and wait for her to apologize for making you act like that?

 

[mjb3617]

What do you folks think about when you lose your frame cause of the girl instead of apologizing you flip the script, back off and wait for her to apologize for making you act like that?

Depends on the girl and the situation but you have to ask yourself is it worth it to play that angle with her?

She might just tell you she's sorry to end the issue and you won't be convinced she's genuine in her apology.

It's best to not lose frame, easier said than done sometimes.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

So if I reach her out lets say in a couple of days I will be in that needy position while if she will reach eventually me - that means that she is still interested at some point?

I mean she potentially already sees you or categorizes you as needy. Your reaction transpires neediness. If you had abundance you wouldn't have reacted the way you did, nevertheless care whether she is still interested at this point.

So to recap, your main issue here is scarcity. Reflect on that and take appropriate action as you see fit.

Modern Man Advice

 

[RangerMIke]

Learn to be present and in the moment. Expect anything but don't anticipate anything. Play the long game and don't let anything get emotional.

A few months ago I had a woman that I'd set up a date with that cancelled at the last minute. No problem, I always expect something like this could happen, didn't over-react, just forgot about her. Fast forward to last week... she reached out, made a date, and banged her last Thursday. This actually happens some times.... I won't say it's common, typically flaky women just go away and you never see them again, but it does happen. But if you don't play the long game, it never will happen.