YourGreatestFear
Don Juan
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If I've tried to write a book or to sell you something then the first thing I did would be boasting my results with women by telling you how many I've banged and how I became a super Chad from some fat basement dweller. But it's not a book and I don't have any **** to sell, so let's get straight to the point, my friends.
Pretty much everything you know about Game is bull****. You'll understand why in a minute.
Almost everything you can read here or on any other pickup resource is information that puts you into a position of chasing women and begging them to give you some validation. . . And the other information like Red/Black Pills, MGTOW, etc, is there to make you passive about women and go the opposite way of not actively pursuing sex or doing it in a very unflexible "**** yes or **** no" way. Which is better, but still very far what you can call a real Game.
So, let's start from the basics.
PART 1. NEEDINESS.
Let's take a typical AFC (average frustrated chump) or a simp, or a normie, or a beta male, call them whatever. They see a woman they consider attractive, their instincts tell them that they want to have sex with her, and their low self-esteem tells them that they also want the validation that comes with ****ing a woman. If you **** a woman you are cool, if you don't then you are a loser, a pathetic incel, that's how society programmed us and there's even some truth to it. So for him, sex is a prize and now he needs to find a way to win it. How? By impressing a girl of course! He saw how it goes in romantic movies! And by becoming her best buddy! Yay! And, depending on a girl and her options, he can even succeed. Though, more often than not, he's going to be friendzoned. But there's one thing that would be there either he succeeds or not. . . He acts like a little ***** to the girl. He puts her on a pedestal for she holds the key to his happiness. She's his drug dealer and he's addicted to the validation she gives or takes from him. From the beginning, he gives away most of his male power. If he's lucky then after getting into a relationship with her he becomes disillusioned with her and her *****power and starts to treat her as his equal. In this case, you are getting your typical couple. . . Okay, but if you're here all of it is probably not about you, right? Except, it probably is. . . The only difference is that instead of trying to win sex through the **** you've learned from our society (treat women right, be interested in their personality, become friends, gift them ****, confess your feelings, etc) he uses something else. . . The thing we call Game.
That's the problem with you guys. That's the problem with the seduction and pickup community. For you, Game is just a tool to get *****. You are still chasing. You are still putting sex on a pedestal. You are still playing by other people's rules and still don't have a Frame of your own. "What should I tell to make her like me?", "What I need to say to pass her **** tests??", "She said that she has a boyfriend, what should I do???". . . What should you do or say to achieve WHAT exactly? Yeah, of course, you are just asking what to do to make your like you. To give you validation. To give you a prize. You try to find a way to deserve her. You don't think that you are worthy of sex by default, you try to compensate with techniques and tricks. . . the same way simps try to compensate with gifts and their fake as hell friendship. The thing is - this is actually still better than just doing what society tells you. . . Because you at least try to imitate real confident men. This is basically what all Outer Game is about - trying to imitate a high-value man. . . The problem is that it's really REALLY hard to do it from the position of neediness. And women can sense that there's something off with you. Not all women. Not always. This is why it sometimes works. Sometimes. . . some girls are stupid, some are just too horny to care and some tolerate your strangeness because they find you physically attractive. . . In fact, often you end up ****ing girls not because of your techniques but IN SPITE of them. This is obvious with how those outer game gurus acknowledge that they only **** 3 girls out of the 100 they approach.
What I just talked about is called Active Neediness (let's not even talk about the Passive Neediness - just visit any incel forum if you want an example, lol). When you are needy, you do what you think you SHOULD do to get sex and validation instead of doing what you WANT to do. And when you don't get your prize, you feel bitter - either about yourself, women, or both. It's a really frustrating place to find yourself. Even if you **** 100 women by approaching thousands, you'll still that something is always lacking. You'll always know that you are the one who chases women and they benevolently allow you to touch their ***** after you work your ass off either by trying to befriend them or by using the things you learned from PUA gurus or sosuave. The core of the neediness is that you NEED to get sex and for that, you are ready to do whatever it takes or close to it. You want to get good reactions and avoid the bad ones. When a girl gives you a good reaction you feel happy inside when she gives you a bad reaction you feel miserable and think that you did something wrong. . . Basically, you become her Pavlov's Dog even if she doesn't really want it. . .
Let's look deeper. . . The funniest thing is that many of you have probably heard what being needy is a bad thing, some of you have probably read Mark Manson with his Models or just learned about this concept from somewhere else. . . And what makes it funny is that for such guys "being non-needy" is just another tool. "Oh, cool, so to get laid I just need to avoid acting needy and, instead, to become non-needy! Such a clever technique, hahaha, now I'll **** you all, bitches!". . . And then he tries to act non-needy from the position of extreme neediness. Pure gold.
I think that's enough for you to see where's the problem with how most guys think lies. But then again, there's another extreme and let's talk about it.
Pretty much everything you know about Game is bull****. You'll understand why in a minute.
Almost everything you can read here or on any other pickup resource is information that puts you into a position of chasing women and begging them to give you some validation. . . And the other information like Red/Black Pills, MGTOW, etc, is there to make you passive about women and go the opposite way of not actively pursuing sex or doing it in a very unflexible "**** yes or **** no" way. Which is better, but still very far what you can call a real Game.
So, let's start from the basics.
PART 1. NEEDINESS.
Let's take a typical AFC (average frustrated chump) or a simp, or a normie, or a beta male, call them whatever. They see a woman they consider attractive, their instincts tell them that they want to have sex with her, and their low self-esteem tells them that they also want the validation that comes with ****ing a woman. If you **** a woman you are cool, if you don't then you are a loser, a pathetic incel, that's how society programmed us and there's even some truth to it. So for him, sex is a prize and now he needs to find a way to win it. How? By impressing a girl of course! He saw how it goes in romantic movies! And by becoming her best buddy! Yay! And, depending on a girl and her options, he can even succeed. Though, more often than not, he's going to be friendzoned. But there's one thing that would be there either he succeeds or not. . . He acts like a little ***** to the girl. He puts her on a pedestal for she holds the key to his happiness. She's his drug dealer and he's addicted to the validation she gives or takes from him. From the beginning, he gives away most of his male power. If he's lucky then after getting into a relationship with her he becomes disillusioned with her and her *****power and starts to treat her as his equal. In this case, you are getting your typical couple. . . Okay, but if you're here all of it is probably not about you, right? Except, it probably is. . . The only difference is that instead of trying to win sex through the **** you've learned from our society (treat women right, be interested in their personality, become friends, gift them ****, confess your feelings, etc) he uses something else. . . The thing we call Game.
That's the problem with you guys. That's the problem with the seduction and pickup community. For you, Game is just a tool to get *****. You are still chasing. You are still putting sex on a pedestal. You are still playing by other people's rules and still don't have a Frame of your own. "What should I tell to make her like me?", "What I need to say to pass her **** tests??", "She said that she has a boyfriend, what should I do???". . . What should you do or say to achieve WHAT exactly? Yeah, of course, you are just asking what to do to make your like you. To give you validation. To give you a prize. You try to find a way to deserve her. You don't think that you are worthy of sex by default, you try to compensate with techniques and tricks. . . the same way simps try to compensate with gifts and their fake as hell friendship. The thing is - this is actually still better than just doing what society tells you. . . Because you at least try to imitate real confident men. This is basically what all Outer Game is about - trying to imitate a high-value man. . . The problem is that it's really REALLY hard to do it from the position of neediness. And women can sense that there's something off with you. Not all women. Not always. This is why it sometimes works. Sometimes. . . some girls are stupid, some are just too horny to care and some tolerate your strangeness because they find you physically attractive. . . In fact, often you end up ****ing girls not because of your techniques but IN SPITE of them. This is obvious with how those outer game gurus acknowledge that they only **** 3 girls out of the 100 they approach.
What I just talked about is called Active Neediness (let's not even talk about the Passive Neediness - just visit any incel forum if you want an example, lol). When you are needy, you do what you think you SHOULD do to get sex and validation instead of doing what you WANT to do. And when you don't get your prize, you feel bitter - either about yourself, women, or both. It's a really frustrating place to find yourself. Even if you **** 100 women by approaching thousands, you'll still that something is always lacking. You'll always know that you are the one who chases women and they benevolently allow you to touch their ***** after you work your ass off either by trying to befriend them or by using the things you learned from PUA gurus or sosuave. The core of the neediness is that you NEED to get sex and for that, you are ready to do whatever it takes or close to it. You want to get good reactions and avoid the bad ones. When a girl gives you a good reaction you feel happy inside when she gives you a bad reaction you feel miserable and think that you did something wrong. . . Basically, you become her Pavlov's Dog even if she doesn't really want it. . .
Let's look deeper. . . The funniest thing is that many of you have probably heard what being needy is a bad thing, some of you have probably read Mark Manson with his Models or just learned about this concept from somewhere else. . . And what makes it funny is that for such guys "being non-needy" is just another tool. "Oh, cool, so to get laid I just need to avoid acting needy and, instead, to become non-needy! Such a clever technique, hahaha, now I'll **** you all, bitches!". . . And then he tries to act non-needy from the position of extreme neediness. Pure gold.
I think that's enough for you to see where's the problem with how most guys think lies. But then again, there's another extreme and let's talk about it.
