Buying Drinks

[zekko]

A female friend of my girlfriend has started online dating, after a recent breakup. She went out with this guy, who told her to buy the first round of drinks. She said she wouldn't see this guy again, because she thought since he invited her out, he should pay. I kept thinking the guy has probably read some seduction material, because that line seems to come right out PUA thinking. I guess it didn't work on her though. But you never know, next week the guy might ask her out and she'll go, who knows? Women change their mind faster than they change clothes.

Personally, I think if you invite someone out, you should be at least prepared to pay, but I'm old fashioned. To me, that's just proper etiquette. But I know dating and gender roles have changed. Females are now expected to earn and have their own money and are supposed to be equal (or superior) to men in every way. So what do you think?

 

[2Rocky]

You invite, you pay. The way she behaves determines if you will invite again.

 

[GreatHornedOwl]

Correct. He pays. It's the masculine thing to do. That must have been awkward, and I don't blame her for not wanting to meet up with him again.

 

[Robert28]

He wasn’t hot enough to pull off that demand. Had he been a Chad she might have still complained but she’d have done it. She doesn’t want to see him because he didn’t buy her drinks, she doesn’t want to see him again because he didn’t give her the tingles. I’m my experience you don’t get second chances when it comes to online dates, if you’re rejected after the first it’s not gonna change. Why? Because she’s got other guys lined up to take her out already.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Buying drinks is always something I don't think about. Sometimes I run across guys on this forum who overthink everything rather autistically. That's no rub on OP, but it feels that way sometimes with topics like this.

 

[SW15]

I have rarely bought drinks when doing pickup at night venues over the years. Much more of my drink buying has occurred on dates, often the ones obtained via the use of swipe apps. Many times, I was buying drinks for women on dates who had a higher annual salary than I had. I thought that was nuts!

 

[TheNewStyle123]

I have rarely bought drinks when doing pickup at night venues over the years. Much more of my drink buying has occurred on dates, often the ones obtained via the use of swipe apps. Many times, I was buying drinks for women on dates who had a higher annual salary than I had. I thought that was nuts!

Same man! Crazy shiit

 

[Robert28]

I have rarely bought drinks when doing pickup at night venues over the years. Much more of my drink buying has occurred on dates, often the ones obtained via the use of swipe apps. Many times, I was buying drinks for women on dates who had a higher annual salary than I had. I thought that was nuts!

I’ve loved when I’ve been out with women on dates and they quickly and casually drop their salary. I’ve always known it was a test to get me to reveal mine but I never do. BUT every woman that’s ever mentioned hers, not one has ever come close to earning more than me. And the funny thing is I bet they’ve left thinking they made more than me just because all I did was nod and go “cool, that’s great” and never revealed mine. I keep more in one of my savings accounts than most of these girls make in a year. I’m not about to reveal that though, that would be foolish.

 

[BadBoy89]

He wasn’t hot enough to pull off that demand. Had he been a Chad she might have still complained but she’d have done it. She doesn’t want to see him because he didn’t buy her drinks, she doesn’t want to see him again because he didn’t give her the tingles.

Exactly.

She can't say "I wanted to give to my basic instincts, but since he didn't buy drinks, I'm out."

 

[SW15]

I have rarely bought drinks when doing pickup at night venues over the years. Much more of my drink buying has occurred on dates, often the ones obtained via the use of swipe apps. Many times, I was buying drinks for women on dates who had a higher annual salary than I had. I thought that was nuts!

Same man! Crazy shiit

I have always thought the convention of men picking up the cost of a first date and other early stage dates was a bit outdated from a purely financial sense. Why should I pay for the drink(s) of a woman who has a higher annual salary than I have because I asked her out? However, because pusssy is in major demand, women can get away with that. Also, it is common for women to receive the free drinks and ghost before the second date even without having sex. At least I learned from the Manosphere/pickup community in the early 2010s to avoid dinner dates in restaurants prior to sex. Even within the last 3 years, I've heard about guys on Tinder/Bumble/Hinge doing first date dinner dates.

A female friend of my girlfriend has started online dating, after a recent breakup. She went out with this guy, who told her to buy the first round of drinks. She said she wouldn't see this guy again, because she thought since he invited her out, he should pay. I kept thinking the guy has probably read some seduction material, because that line seems to come right out PUA thinking. I guess it didn't work on her though. But you never know, next week the guy might ask her out and she'll go, who knows? Women change their mind faster than they change clothes.

How old is she? I liked that expression of "women change their mind faster than they change clothes". It is true.

Personally, I think if you invite someone out, you should be at least prepared to pay, but I'm old fashioned. To me, that's just proper etiquette. But I know dating and gender roles have changed. Females are now expected to earn and have their own money and are supposed to be equal (or superior) to men in every way. So what do you think?

I paid for all of my early stage dates over ~2 decades of dating. At times during the 2 decades, I was going on a lot of first dates due to use of websites and swipe apps. It's easier to go on more dates when using swipe apps but most will be the low quality variety of dates that aren't worth attending. At a certain point, it is better for a man to sit home and do nothing rather than attend a "one date, no sex, no second date" date.

Women want feminism when it suits them. I would like to see the notion of men paying for dates disappear. With regular friends, costs are split. Women earn as men when they choose similar professions to men. If there is a gender pay gap, it occurs because women choose less rigorous paths (fewer women in STEM for instance).

 

[TheNewStyle123]

I have always thought the convention of men picking up the cost of a first date and other early stage dates was a bit outdated from a purely financial sense. Why should I pay for the drink(s) of a woman who has a higher annual salary than I have because I asked her out? However, because pusssy is in major demand, women can get away with that. Also, it is common for women to receive the free drinks and ghost before the second date even without having sex. At least I learned from the Manosphere/pickup community in the early 2010s to avoid dinner dates in restaurants prior to sex. Even within the last 3 years, I've heard about guys on Tinder/Bumble/Hinge doing first date dinner dates.



How old is she? I liked that expression of "women change their mind faster than they change clothes". It is true.



I paid for all of my early stage dates over ~2 decades of dating. At times during the 2 decades, I was going on a lot of first dates due to use of websites and swipe apps. It's easier to go on more dates when using swipe apps but most will be the low quality variety of dates that aren't worth attending. At a certain point, it is better for a man to sit home and do nothing rather than attend a "one date, no sex, no second date" date.

Women want feminism when it suits them. I would like to see the notion of men paying for dates disappear. With regular friends, costs are split. Women earn as men when they choose similar professions to men. If there is a gender pay gap, it occurs because women choose less rigorous paths (fewer women in STEM for instance).

I was a chump that did the first date dinner dates too man. Never again..

 

[ThisIsSparta]

A female friend of my girlfriend has started online dating, after a recent breakup. She went out with this guy, who told her to buy the first round of drinks. She said she wouldn't see this guy again, because she thought since he invited her out, he should pay. I kept thinking the guy has probably read some seduction material, because that line seems to come right out PUA thinking. I guess it didn't work on her though. But you never know, next week the guy might ask her out and she'll go, who knows? Women change their mind faster than they change clothes.

Personally, I think if you invite someone out, you should be at least prepared to pay, but I'm old fashioned. To me, that's just proper etiquette. But I know dating and gender roles have changed. Females are now expected to earn and have their own money and are supposed to be equal (or superior) to men in every way. So what do you think?

One doesnt invite a woman out before she earned it, meaning before she fvcked him. He invites her to a first date coffee/drink in the afternoon, checks her out, ends the date after one hour at most.

If he wishes, he sets up the 2nd date which still doesnt involve paying her a hangover or fancy dinner.

 

[f(x)]

I’ve only ever dated one woman who insisted on paying for her own drink, unless her friends were around, then I had to pay?! She was very accommodating sexually, so I didn’t mind.

If you have several dates scheduled in a week, even the $5 drinks start to add up. I too have experienced women who earn more than I to expect me to pay. Sometimes I pretend to have left my wallet at home just to see their reaction.

I’m trying to think of first date ideas that don’t cost anything…

 

[PRW63]

A female friend of my girlfriend has started online dating, after a recent breakup. She went out with this guy, who told her to buy the first round of drinks. She said she wouldn't see this guy again, because she thought since he invited her out, he should pay. I kept thinking the guy has probably read some seduction material, because that line seems to come right out PUA thinking.

This doesn't need to be a long thread. She was right. The guy was an idiot. You are probably right about the PUA crap.

 

[Black Widow Void]

Personally, I think if you invite someone out, you should be at least prepared to pay, but I'm old fashioned. To me, that's just proper etiquette.

I agree.

Also, for those reading, here's a tip for screening your first date. If you're out (the first time) for a drink, be sure that your first drink is a "house drink." If she's the decent sort, then she'll match your price range and not exceed (by ordering a "well drink" or anything top-shelf).

Here's what the scenario reveals: If she opts for a 'specialty drink' then you are likely out with an opportunist that has little regard for you (she knows that she's making a first impression and this isn't good) . If she passes the test, then you two drink as your budget permits. Then casually reveal your next drink ie; "I think I'll have a Drambuie, what would you like?" And then *you* place the order for her as well.

 

[LucianoM]

I always pay for drinks, covers, everything. It shows the girl im a well off man who isnt nickel and diming. I would feel less of a man if a girl im with pulls out her wallet to pay for something.

 

[andreihaha]

A female friend of my girlfriend has started online dating, after a recent breakup. She went out with this guy, who told her to buy the first round of drinks. She said she wouldn't see this guy again, because she thought since he invited her out, he should pay. I kept thinking the guy has probably read some seduction material, because that line seems to come right out PUA thinking. I guess it didn't work on her though. But you never know, next week the guy might ask her out and she'll go, who knows? Women change their mind faster than they change clothes.

Personally, I think if you invite someone out, you should be at least prepared to pay, but I'm old fashioned. To me, that's just proper etiquette. But I know dating and gender roles have changed. Females are now expected to earn and have their own money and are supposed to be equal (or superior) to men in every way. So what do you think?

Sounds like a simple PUA line. And that's probably what it was.
But if the dude would have been truly good at seduction, the "line" would probably have worked. Because it would stop being a line.

That being said, at the moment I can't find a way to say something like that without it being uncomfortable.
You invite, you pay.

 

[IKO69]

I only buy drinks for women that i've at least dated, but usually one's I know - like a friend or something.

If I am out somewhere and meet a woman for the first time I will not buy her anything just because she's a female.

 

[cola]

I’ll usually pay for the first 2-3 dates. If by date three she isn’t offering to pay for something that’s a major red flag ..

 

[zinc4]

I used pay only if i thought she was going to go home with me. If not, i would split the bill. Now i dont gaf and just pay. Seems it increases my odds of success a lot too.