What women really mean when they say they want a confident/leader man

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When you think of a confident man that is a leader, you are thinking of a brave Military officer leading the charge with his soldiers or a successful business owner/career guy that is in charge of people with a commanding personality, or just an overall wolf pack leader type guy. Unfortunately, this is untrue because women only want a confident man when it comes to social circumstances that benefit her! She wants a guy that can plan the perfect romantic date that suits her interests on the fly. She wants a man that can take charge and be that loveable guy when yall are hanging out with her friends. She wants a guy that can confidently guess her emotions and say the right things without her having to initiate anything.

Essentially, she wants some giga chad to be able to turn in to a Tyler Perry movie hero at the right moments. If you are a guy on his grind then there is no fvcking way that you will have the time, energy, and capability of playing Mr.Right 100% of the time to appease a womanchild. This is why dating forever single women that spew out this "spark" or "romantic relationship" hogwash is a waste of time because they want a damn Disney character at the end of the day. AVOID!!!
 

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Women want friend ice, as they say.
 

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Threads like this are why, I'm guessing, a real player like Espi got fed up and deleted his account.

So much Incel-fueled cynicism from OP, and others like him.
Did his posts and threads disappear too? I'd like to see his material.
 
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What she means is that she doesn't want a weak beta, and a relationship where she has to make any decisions. She wants a guy who is confident enough to make decisions, tell her what to do, and lead the relationship. It has nothing to do with his occupation (military, business owner or whatever).
So it's beta to not play her little Disney romantic fairytale games, but you are confident /alpha if you literally spend all of your free time trying to guess what extravagant date this child wants to do on a Tuesday evening?
 
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If you don't want to date those type of women then why are you wasting your time talking to them?
Because a lot of them don't show their true crazy side until after bed time fun has been had lol. Then they want to keep wasting our time trying to tame me in to a Tyler Perry hero.
 

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if you literally spend all of your free time trying to guess what extravagant date this child wants to do on a Tuesday evening?
While I agree with you that women are the most mature children, how about not catering to what date this female thinks she wants in that second, and just plan a date that you want. You know, take the lead.
 

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Because a lot of them don't show their true crazy side until after bed time fun has been had lol. Then they want to keep wasting our time trying to tame me in to a Tyler Perry hero.
After? Hell they usually show me before lol
 
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While I agree with you that women are the most mature children, how about not catering to what date this female thinks she wants in that second, and just plan a date that you want. You know, take the lead.
This is much easier to do in the honey moon phase, but afterwards it becomes a huggggggeee pain in the ass.

After? Hell they usually show me before lol
This is a blessing in disguise
 

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Because a lot of them don't show their true crazy side until after bed time fun has been had lol. Then they want to keep wasting our time trying to tame me in to a Tyler Perry hero.
You gotta ask them better questions on dates or before meeting them. It's pretty easy to find that type of stuff out.
 

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This is much easier to do in the honey moon phase, but afterwards it becomes a huggggggeee pain in the ass.
I guess if a plate that I was interested in maintaining, was nagging about doing this and doing that, I would give in to her wants like 1 in 5 dates or something. If she was constantly on my azz, I would lay down the law, and say I'm not here to cater to your every want and whim, the date is supposed to be about us having fun together. If you need these extravagant dates to have fun and connect with me, than there's the door.
 

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A lifetime of experience tells me this is utter nonsense.

most women will be more than happy with a dude they hardly ever see provided he’s a millionaire and running a business.

do you think elon musk is sat there writing sonnets for his chicks?

Most chicks don’t give a damn about romance. Romance to them is like what war fils are to us. Entertainment. I don’t actually want to go to war but I enjoy the emotions of camaraderie and self sacrifice and bravery it brings. So for the woman, she enjoys whatever emotions romance fiction and TV brings. They almost never get with the type of guys in these movies. It’s fantasy
 
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Planning extravagant dates and being her dancing circus animal is Beta. It's quite literally Beta Bux.

Alpha is "this is the type of relationship we are having, little girl. My way or No way."
Then she becomes passive aggressive because she wanted Italian food and a candle lit walk in some crowded tourist trap spot, stops putting out sex and you end up on this fvcking site making a topic about her lmao

A lifetime of experience tells me this is utter nonsense.

most women will be more than happy with a dude they hardly ever see provided he’s a millionaire and running a business.

do you think elon musk is sat there writing sonnets for his chicks?

Most chicks don’t give a damn about romance. Romance to them is like what war fils are to us. Entertainment. I don’t actually want to go to war but I enjoy the emotions of camaraderie and self sacrifice and bravery it brings. So for the woman, she enjoys whatever emotions romance fiction and TV brings. They almost never get with the type of guys in these movies. It’s fantasy
I want to meet your women then lol
 
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You gotta ask them better questions on dates or before meeting them. It's pretty easy to find that type of stuff out.
I guess if a plate that I was interested in maintaining, was nagging about doing this and doing that, I would give in to her wants like 1 in 5 dates or something. If she was constantly on my azz, I would lay down the law, and say I'm not here to cater to your every want and whim, the date is supposed to be about us having fun together. If you need these extravagant dates to have fun and connect with me, than there's the door.
Think of dating a crazy girl like this!!

Lets say you go and interview for a company that wants to hire you. During the hiring process, they will hide all of the skeletons and stuff in the closet so you do not see what the company actually is. Once you are hired and begin working at the company, you gradually start noticing little bit by bit of the skeletons they were hiding from you. By the time you are well aware that this company is a toxic place to work, you have gotten several raises, vacation time scheduled, eyeing a certain spot in the company you want because it will look better on your resume, and why would you leave when there's a vesting period for your 401k.

You are now trapped!
 

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women only want a confident man when it comes to social circumstances that benefit her! She wants a guy that can plan the perfect romantic date that suits her interests on the fly. She wants a man that can take charge and be that loveable guy when yall are hanging out with her friends. She wants a guy that can confidently guess her emotions and say the right things without her having to initiate anything.
The fact that this is your mindset and you actually believe this to be true is probably what led her to sh!t test you so much and make you fail all of her tests. She could smell your betaness from a mile away.

Essentially, she wants some giga chad to be able to turn in to a Tyler Perry movie hero at the right moments.
Sure, this is what women publicly communicate as blue-pillers, but I have a feeling that this has nothing to do with what's actually happening in your particular situation. If she's "demanding" things from you and telling you that she wants things this way or that way, she's seeing if you're that confident leader-type guy that you claim to be.

If you are a guy on his grind then there is no fvcking way that you will have the time, energy, and capability of playing Mr.Right 100% of the time to appease a womanchild. This is why dating forever single women that spew out this "spark" or "romantic relationship" hogwash is a waste of time because they want a damn Disney character at the end of the day. AVOID!!!
Most women think this way and it's normal. Most women will not be red-pilled. So when they say things like this, it's irrelevant. What's relevant is your ability to lead her and not fall into her frame.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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