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1. How many hours a week do you spend caring for your dog?

2. How much money per year do you spend on your dog?

3. What are some smaller, well-behaved breeds of dogs?
 

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Had a Bernard/Mastiff mix. 70cm height to shoulder, 45kg, Very uncomplicated character, but a rambo on the leash whenever other dogs came near and she wasn't kept busy.

Walks minimum two hours a day. Food about 100€ per month, plus some treats. Vet visits could be expensive.

I've experience with german shepherds, dobermans, münsterländers, labradors and as said with my bernard/mastiff mix. They can all behave if they have the right training and level of activity. The mixed one was by far the most easy going, although the biggest and most impressive. She was a also the best winggirl ever ;)
 

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I have two - A Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and a mix-breed Staffordshire-x-Labrador.. 35 pounds and 60 pounds.
I'd say the Staff is medium size, the mix breed is larger due to being Lab sized with a bull terrier build.

1 - Actually 'caring' for them - Not a lot. They're both low-maintenance, short hair which doesn't need grooming - and I have a large enclosed area out back of my place so they can go outside and run about as much as they want. They get an actual 'walk' once a day, around the neighbourhood, or at weekends I might take them to some woods, or the river, whatever.

2 - Feeding them costs around £80 a month - Health insurance is £16 a month for the two - Booster jabs £20 each, once a year.
Occasionally there'll be little extras like dog toys, new collar, etc...
Total probably around £1200 - £1300 a year (around $1700 - $1800)
Sounds a lot in one lump - but it's a regular 'drip'... so I barely notice it.

3 - Don't know much about specific smaller breeds, (I was never keen on little 'fanny-licker' dogs) but medium sized you can't go wrong with a Staffordshire - Very much 'people' dogs - VERY loyal, easy to train.
A bit bigger... Labs and German Shepherds are also great but you'll need to either have a good area to let them out, or do a lot of walking.

I don't work 9-5, so I'm never out of the house for 9+ hours at a time - If you do work 9-5 I wouldn't recommend getting a dog at all, unless someone is home while you're at work.

And yes - as xplt say - Dogs are great wingmen/winggirls
 

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Please don't get a dog Josh. I implore you.

Your questions alone indicate just how not cut out for it you are and ultimately
getting a dog to help you get girls (which I'm sure you must have read somewhere)
is no good or valid reason to get one.

With smaller breeds you could be talking about a commitment of as much as 18 years, they
can live for a surprisingly long time. As a dog ages it's vet bills typically increase, just like people
they get a bit worn out as they become old and are in and out of the 'doctor's' more often.
Vets bills are usually eye wateringly expensive, then of course there's all the other things, food,
toys (which are there to be destroyed so your house isn't, so you're always buying new ones)
bedding, leads/harnesses, making your garden/yard dog safe, spaying/neutering, vaccinations.
The list goes on and on. Then there's the time required for exercise, my Doberman/Weimeraner
cross needs at least a 5 mile walk every day. That's 5 miles for me, the dog ranges off lead and
probably runs triple that each time and she still wants more. That's 2 hours of the day gone,
every day, rain shine or snow. The dog won't care if it's your birthday and you want to go out
with your mates, the dog won't care if you feel unwell. Once a routine is established you'll quickly
find that the dog can tell time better than you can and a dog that wants its walkies is the most
impatient creature on earth. It's worth mentioning the poo, if it's in your yard you'll need to go
out, hunt for it and scoop it up every day, then you have to find somewhere safe to dispose of it.
If out on walks you'll need to bag it up and carry it around until you find a bin to put it in. Anything less
is absolutely unacceptable. Funny thing is dogs quite like poo. Some eat it, some roll in it. Ever had to
brush a dogs teeth because it's eaten some fox sh1t, I have, more than once and it's pretty gross.

No breed is better behaved than any other, all dogs can be very obedient but you'll need
to put a couple of years in before you see any real evidence of this. The first year will be just
basic housetraining and simple establishment of yourself as pack leader, if you don't make
that clear to a dog it will try and challenge you for position, especially a male dog. After that
calm, measured and consistent leadership is what will get the dog to obey and follow you.
Screaming and shouting doesn't work and makes things worse from a behavioural standpoint.
It's occasionally super frustrating when Fido just doesn't get it and chews up your shoe of takes
a dump in the hallway, but it's all too easy to humanise them and completely forget that they
are just predators/scavengers in equal measure. I had to put a good couple of hours a day in with
my last dog, on top of her walks, plus obedience classes twice a week for two years to get her to
the point where anyone could take her lead and walk her and she would behave for them as well
as she does me. Even so, all that training goes out of the window when her prey drive is triggered
(squirrels are her kryptonite) and she's off like a rocket with only one thing on her mind "I must eat
that little ba$tards face and shake it's twitching corpse around until it's back breaks..." pretty much.
Thankfully squirrels are fast but she's caught a few, if they couldn't run up trees as fast as they can
across the ground her squirrel bodycount would match the Punisher. She has also dug moles out
of the ground and killed them, frogs and toads a plenty, hedgehogs are often a problem and the
local cats won't come anywhere near my her garden because they've all had to run for their lives
in the past. My dog is 40kg, my sisters dog Freya is the size of a cat and is just as prey driven. Size
doesn't come into it, they all lose their sh1t when the jungle drums go off in their heads, those same
drums can be just as strong when they just wanna fvck, which is a whole other story.

Don't do anything daft Josh, it is a very rewarding experience if you are prepared to put in the effort
but it's a lifetime commitment both in terms of time and money and you're a young guy who has
the world to see. Even travelling is far more difficult with a dog in tow, my wife and I saw the world
long before we got our dog, she kept the dog after our split and is restricted to UK camping holidays
and dog friendly accommodation within the UK, dogs need a passport and shots to travel just like we
do, but they won't be on the seat next to you on the plane, they will be scared witless in the hold in a
small cage for hours on end. I could never put a dog through that.
 

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Dear Josh,
Yeah just lost a Staffy x Labrador last year,gutsy little Lady...She ate pretty much whatever I ate,tried to make it one third each:meat,grain and veg...saw the Vet every year for injections,maybe US$60 a year...She once got badly mauled by a big Roo,who picked her up in his front paws and ripped her guts open with his hind leg,she broke free so we poked her innards back in carried her home where we tied her belly together with a bulldog clip took her to the Vet,that cost a couple of hundred....Once went under a car,she just lay there we carried her home and put her in a laundry basket she slowly recovered but always had a limp after.....Once she was bitten by a Brown Snake,luckily I pulled her away if left to work it out themselves,they will keep attacking the Snake and take on board a load of venom,phoned the Vet,yes he had Anti Venene but $600 a shot,opined that Snakes who are not angry will not release venom in two out of three cases and just watch her for any serious symptoms,bring her in should that happen...So she did 17.5 Years,maybe had a bowel Cancer,Slippery Elm Bark kept her running(LOL) for several years,but eventually she started moaning and passing Blood so after my Girls said Goodbye I put her out of her misery,buried her in the back yard,lost a good mate!
 
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1. How many hours a week do you spend caring for your dog?

2. How much money per year do you spend on your dog?

3. What are some smaller, well-behaved breeds of dogs?
1. Depends on the breed. Some breeds require more exercise than others. I have a Boston Bulldog (Frenchton) and he requires at least 1-2 hrs of running per day. He is fine having a low-key day but it is important to get him tired. Again, just research and get a dog breed that compliments and suits your lifestyle. It's easier for me because I am always hiking, mtbiking, swimming, running, etc, etc and I live in the outdoor mecca, but if you are a homebody and live in a city, then do not get a Boxer, Border Collie, etc.

2. A lot. Food alone is $70/mo. Another $66/mo for pet insurance. Misc items like toys, treats, adventures, etc add an extra $50-100. Do the math.

3. Do the research.

Final note: Do not get a dog to satisfy your needs. It is a complete commitment to another living being that will be 100% loyal to you and love you unconditionally. Do not be like those people that got Covid pets and now that they are back in the office they are giving them up. Do not be like those s***p f***ks.

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Yeah there's no telling how much a dog will cost you. It all depends on the problems that arises with that particular dog. I've went years with only doing the routine stuff for my pit. Then I had to address her allergies to mites, and certain foods. She's allergic to beef. That's like a kid being allergic to ice cream haha. I had to take care of ear infections as a result of the allergy problems. Then she developed one tumor that I had removed. Then another. Then another. Then another. She's developed six tumors(all benign). Four of which I had removed. Then found out about her heart problem. Now she's on daily heart pills. Then found out about her half paralyzed larnyx. No costs yet.

If you're asking how many hours a week one is caring for their dog, that's like asking how many hours a week one is caring for their kids. Always... You can't just make sudden plans and not account for the animal. I missed an opportunity for an easy lay, because I had to separate myself from the chick and come back to give my dog her heart pill.
 

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I don't own a dog, but I have in the past, and I know what bad dog ownership looks like from friends.

An ex coworker lived in a big house with a tiny yard. She got a golden retriever puppy, but rarely if ever took it out for walks because she was lazy. Needless to say, the dog was super destructive around the house, and he would chew on rocks and break his teeth. She had pet insurance and said it was entirely necessary because of all the medical problems the dog got itself into.

Another current coworker got a small dog that barks all day long because it's couped up in an apartment for 8 hours a day while she goes to work

Do NOT get a dog breed that is or was super popular. They are usually inbred to all hell and have health and personality problems.

Dogs are one step down from children. If that's what you want, go for it, but as others have said all pets are a big commitment, and dogs moreso than most other animals.
 

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1. How many hours a week do you spend caring for your dog?

2. How much money per year do you spend on your dog?

3. What are some smaller, well-behaved breeds of dogs?
1. I have a Jack Russell Terrier that can/will nap contentedly for most of the day when inside the house. Or happily hang out in the backyard, front yard, deck, daybed etc. on sunny days - As long as I or wifey are nearby. Since she is small, we can kick or toss a ball around and she will chase it around the yard or in a park for as long as we want - Jacks have a lot of energy!

She gets a morning treat after being let out to relieve herself every morning and usually wants to get 'The Nightly Dog Report' {walk around the neighborhood to sniff around and socialise with other dogs} at least every 24 hours. The walks don't have to be long because she gets plenty of exercise when chasing the ball, rabbits etc..

She eats her big meal once a day, but will get dog snack treats for 'doing her business' and as a dessert when finishing her dinner - plus the occasional human food, treat, etc..

2. Money spent is on license, regular maintenance {food, treats, accessories like beds, hoodies, lighted collars, shampoo, - my dog has been skunked a few times - toys, grooming services, etc.} and veterinarian medical care like annual exams, required vaccines, medications for heartworm, fleas and ticks, nail clipping, embedded I.D. microchip, and other unexpected things that may occur over time; like dental issues, or possible injuries etc..

Our dog's food costs are approx. $50/mth. Which is for 5lb. bags of Purina Lamb & Rice Smart Blend {a bag is usually consumed in 2 weeks} and at least 1 whole roasted chicken every week {mix bits of roast chicken in with the dry mix at dinner}.

The vet costs can vary between $300-$500/Year.

3. Jack Russell Terriers are imho The Best because the breed is very well behaved, affectionate, courageous, intuitive and smart - It's said they think they are human!
 

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I could never do small dogs. Been around pits and boxers my whole life. Wrestling with your dog is one of the best things about having them. Pits I think have the best personalities, and then boxers. Boxers are more goofy from my experience.
 

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If you buy a boxer pup from a backyard breeder, there is a good chance it has a genetic kidney defect and will not live past age 3 or so. I wish I didn't know that from experience.
 

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Yeah there's no telling how much a dog will cost you. It all depends on the problems that arises with that particular dog.
Yeah.. Personally I find that mix-breeds tend to be healthier and live longer in general (Hybrid-vigour)
My mix-breed Staffordshire-x-Labrador turned 14 at the end of May. He's showing his age now, but the only problem he's had so far is that he lost the tip of an ear due to a cyst that the vet removed a coupla yrs ago.
My 8 yr-old Pure-bred Staffordshire Bull Terrier on the other hand, got a prolapsed womb when she had her first season - she's been OK since, but is already developing signs of age (white hair around the muzzle) from around the age of 7.
I've always had dogs, and mix breeds have routinely lived beyond 15 for me... one German Shepherd-x-Collie that I got in my teens, lived almost to 20.
Not a hard and fast rule though... you can be lucky - or unlucky - with any specific dog.
I recently heard that a friend's Staffy died aged 6 after developing a heart problem.

If you're asking how many hours a week one is caring for their dog......
Having owned dogs all my life I don't really regard it as 'caring' for them - To me they're just part of the family.
I would think that other 'dog' people who have always lived with dogs, feel much the same way. If you've always been around dogs, they don't really constitute 'work' as such - but keeping dogs is a lifestyle, and it's not for everyone.

Anyone who's never had a dog... even as a kid - I would think VERY carefully before getting one

I like to keep two, and stagger their ages - so I'll get a young dog when the current dog is mature - That way the young one learns the ropes from the older one.
When the older one dies - the younger one will usually be between about 6 and 9, and can 'teach' the household rules to next puppy.
Doing this I find that training a new puppy is much less work.
 
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Here's my two.
Both pics taken when they were about 5 or 6 - Stig (left) is currently 14, Mia (right) is 8

That's Stig in the background behind Mia, he's around 12 in that pic - you can see he's older from the white round his muzzle.
 

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I like to keep two, and stagger their ages - so I'll get a young dog when the current dog is mature - That way the youmg one learns the ropes from the older one.
Yup. That's a pro dog owner move.
 
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