Did you bang more women by:

[corona20]

1. Becoming redpill -
- Improve looks - working out/get lean (more muscles) or get bigger (more muscles)
- Fit clothes

2. PUA Style - Just imagine you have Mystery's smart quips/personality/body
- Becoming more charming
- Canned lines
- Dressing uniquely
- Having an average body (not buff or anything close to the redpill's ideal male image)

 

[Chamber36]

The 2 overlap.

I did it by working in a bar and getting fvcked outta my mind.

But really if u look good and have a future and put yourself out there that's all there is to it.

 

[Robert28]

I get laid more by not wasting time with old women (32+) and focusing on 21-29….sometimes I’ll squeeze in a 30/31 yr old broad.

 

[Serenity]

I reply to each point in the order you listed them.

• I didn't do much about looks, I'm not fat, I'm not skinny, I'm not muscular. I'd say I'm fairly average with regards to body fitness.
• I did become more aware of clothing, went for good looking plain clothes. So fairly neutral.
• I did become more charming.
• I never have and never will use canned lines, improvisation all the way.
• Peacocking is retarded.
• The first point answers this one.

Overall neither the PUA nor the red pill philosophies fully describes the way I went about it. I focused on actually paying attention outside myself in social interactions rather than be yet another guy blinded by his self-absorption. I learned to use my senses rather than being stuck in my head. I have gotten very far with this, the PUA's are more inclined to believe this but they don't quite get it and the redpillers simply refuse to believe a fundamental behavioral change would make any difference.

Mystery is a clown though, I feel a compulsion to state that every time he's mentioned.

 

[Georgepithyou]

1. Becoming redpill -
- Improve looks - working out/get lean (more muscles) or get bigger (more muscles)
- Fit clothes

This is the part a lot of people skip when they first get into red pill. They go straight into pickup without improving themselves and wonder why they get little or no success.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

By turning into a man that most women can't find anymore. It's a combination of a lot of things but most of all believing in yourself and knowing with every fiber of your being that you are the best man any woman can ever be with.

And there is no faking that. You either honestly believe it and everything about you flows from that mindset or you don't.

 

[Black Widow Void]

Neither.

This isn't to say that every "10" that I pass, turns their head to look at me, but I'm fine with the "7" or "7.5". I'm no longer a looker and so I focused on other attributes. And this would be my individuality; which differentiates me from the cookie-cutter cardboard cutout men.

In short: if you believe in yourself, others will believe in you.

 

[SW15]

I agree that both redpill and PUA overlap.

The best way to get laid is to assess yourself and the marketplace of women accurately. Focus upon what strengths you have or what is in your capacity to improve relative to what certain subsets of women want.

SMV is a blend of looks, money, status, and persona. You'll need more money or status to overcome deficits in looks and persona. Being quite muscular means that you don't have to make as much money or have as much status, at least in the short to medium term.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Neither. Things just happen. Go out more.

 

[Young OG]

1. Becoming redpill -
- Improve looks - working out/get lean (more muscles) or get bigger (more muscles)
- Fit clothes

2. PUA Style - Just imagine you have Mystery's smart quips/personality/body
- Becoming more charming
- Canned lines
- Dressing uniquely
- Having an average body (not buff or anything close to the redpill's ideal male image)

Your descriptions of Red Pill and PUA are very far off. Sounds like you have no idea what your talking about. PUA's do not use canned lines and peacocking anymore. Not all have natural bodies either.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

For me, the #1 move is to roll up on a woman and her friend, swoop em up, give them a quick ride wherever, establish that report.
Here is the kicker though and I didn't figure this out until very late into my game but: Logically, if you pick a woman up, offer her a ride home, you are freeing up part of her time, so now you have inherently generated a gap of free time into her schedule, she didn't plan to be picked up, so this is like your window to build major value with the vehicle, convenience, your in control driving, it's usually a home run, you just have to do this very carefully, you can't seem like a proposition is about to come out of your mouth, just hello, I'm me, offer up my ID immediately, want a ride.

 

[characternote]

The only thing that helped me bang more women was massively increasing the number of women I hit on

You can call it PUA I guess, although I don't believe that any of the 'tactics' they encourage and that i implemented are especially useful past increasing the odds of you NOT messing up the existing attraction

 

[corrector]

1. Becoming redpill -
- Improve looks - working out/get lean (more muscles) or get bigger (more muscles)
- Fit clothes

2. PUA Style - Just imagine you have Mystery's smart quips/personality/body
- Becoming more charming
- Canned lines
- Dressing uniquely
- Having an average body (not buff or anything close to the redpill's ideal male image)

Both options are red-pill, duh.

 

[corrector]

I agree that both redpill and PUA overlap.

The best way to get laid is to assess yourself and the marketplace of women accurately. Focus upon what strengths you have or what is in your capacity to improve relative to what certain subsets of women want.

SMV is a blend of looks, money, status, and persona. You'll need more money or status to overcome deficits in looks and persona. Being quite muscular means that you don't have to make as much money or have as much status, at least in the short to medium term.

I thought SMV and the provider game is more bluepill or resurgent blue pill thinking. If you get a good education, good career and build yourself then the women will come. That is money and status and any dummy knows famous and wealthy people have no issues having women.

Looks and persona is more redpill dynamic.

 

[SW15]

I thought SMV and the provider game is more bluepill or resurgent blue pill thinking. If you get a good education, good career and build yourself then the women will come. That is money and status and any dummy knows famous and wealthy people have no issues having women.

Looks and persona is more redpill dynamic.

Recall SMV is a blend of looks, money, persona, and status.

Bill Gates is an example of high level money and status with zero looks and persona. That blend enabled him to get a middling looking feminist career woman as a beta male. Most men with good educations and good careers are making in the low six figures, which women over a certain age (mid to late 20s in major Western metro areas) take for granted and will not deem as worthy enough as a standalone item for vaginal access.

You can't be a typical engineer with a $120,000 salary and a lower level luxury car (BMW, Infiniti, etc) and expect pusssy. To play the money card alone with the engineer or dorky STEM guy persona, you'd need to at least double if not triple that salary to get average pusssy without persona and big muscles.

 

[Velasco]

going clubbing and then trusting my instincts. not that your instincts will be right all the time. but as time goes on, your instincts tend to self correct.